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24 nov. 2021 à 18 h 56
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I know we just made a post a couple of weeks ago about him but I can’t help than to feel frustrated to see that Lafreniere has still not improved. We can’t blame the team anymore since they are playing well, plus there are multiple forwards from Lafreniere’s draft class who are outperforming him such as Raymond, Lundell, Jarvis, Stutzle and Mercer. So what exactly isn’t working for him at this point? I will give my personal observations below.

The Numbers: This is the one aspect in which Lafreniere does not look out of place in. Only 5 points through 18 games, but the underlying numbers are decent. He has the second highest on ice expected goals for per 60 amongst Rangers forwards, while his shooting selection and pass generation suggest he is nearly as efficient as some of the top playmaking wingers today. If we were to look at these, it would suggest that he’s on verge of breaking out, but it still hasn’t happened.

Marner - 0.66 iXG/60 + 0.73 xA/60

Kane - 0.66 iXG/60 + 0.82 xA/60

Huberdeau - 0.69 iXG/60 + 0.68 xA

Lafreniere - 0.75 iXG/60 + 0.62 xA

Marchand - 0.76 iXG/60 + 0.73 xA

Kaprizov - 0.76 iXG/60 + 0.61 xA


The Eye Test: This is probably most concerning observation of Lafreniere so far in his career. When he’s on the ice, he looks out of place, there is a clear gap between him and his opponents in ability. Though he hasn’t been able to accomplish anything consistently, his forecheck is probably the least worrisome of his abilities. He isn’t fast, but I’ve seen his plenty of times use his physicality and deceptiveness to retrieve the puck. Some nights he looks slow and out of gas, but I think he’s shown he’s got enough natural ability in this aspect. What really concerns me is he hasn’t shown any ability to facilitate plays with the puck on his stick in the offensive zone. Other than getting shots off in obvious goal scoring areas, he hasn’t been able to hold onto it and dictate the play. He looks completely lost when he gets it and will either defer it or dump it into a corner. At this point, it almost seems like he is scared of making a bad decision, he doesn’t want to turn it over or make an incorrect play that costs his team a scoring chance.

I have to admit, I don’t like that Gallant is always benching him, but the team is playing well and are looking to contend for the Cup, so you can’t have someone on the roster who’s not ready to play. I don’t want to call him a bust yet, but I think it’s getting to a point in which NYR should explore loaning him to Hartford or Europe to work on his game, maybe even trade him for a similar level prospect, cuz he’s not good enough for a roster spot on their team right now. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a first overall pick look so petrified to receive the puck.

What’d y’all think?
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I know we just made a post a couple of weeks ago about him but I can’t help than to feel frustrated to see that Lafreniere has still not improved. We can’t blame the team anymore since they are playing well, plus there are multiple forwards from Lafreniere’s draft class who are outperforming him such as Raymond, Lundell, Jarvis, Stutzle and Mercer. So what exactly isn’t working for him at this point? I will give my personal observations below.

The Numbers: This is the one aspect in which Lafreniere does not look out of place in. Only 5 points through 18 games, but the underlying numbers are decent. He has the second highest on ice expected goals for per 60 amongst Rangers forwards, while his shooting selection and pass generation suggest he is nearly as efficient as some of the top playmaking wingers today. If we were to look at these, it would suggest that he’s on verge of breaking out, but it still hasn’t happened.

Marner - 0.66 iXG/60 + 0.73 xA/60

Kane - 0.66 iXG/60 + 0.82 xA/60

Huberdeau - 0.69 iXG/60 + 0.68 xA

Lafreniere - 0.75 iXG/60 + 0.62 xA

Marchand - 0.76 iXG/60 + 0.73 xA

Kaprizov - 0.76 iXG/60 + 0.61 xA


The Eye Test: This is probably most concerning observation of Lafreniere so far in his career. When he’s on the ice, he looks out of place, there is a clear gap between him and his opponents in ability. Though he hasn’t been able to accomplish anything consistently, his forecheck is probably the least worrisome of his abilities. He isn’t fast, but I’ve seen his plenty of times use his physicality and deceptiveness to retrieve the puck. Some nights he looks slow and out of gas, but I think he’s shown he’s got enough natural ability in this aspect. What really concerns me is he hasn’t shown any ability to facilitate plays with the puck on his stick in the offensive zone. Other than getting shots off in obvious goal scoring areas, he hasn’t been able to hold onto it and dictate the play. He looks completely lost when he gets it and will either defer it or dump it into a corner. At this point, it almost seems like he is scared of making a bad decision, he doesn’t want to turn it over or make an incorrect play that costs his team a scoring chance.

I have to admit, I don’t like that Gallant is always benching him, but the team is playing well and are looking to contend for the Cup, so you can’t have someone on the roster who’s not ready to play. I don’t want to call him a bust yet, but I think it’s getting to a point in which NYR should explore loaning him to Hartford or Europe to work on his game, maybe even trade him for a similar level prospect, cuz he’s not good enough for a roster spot on their team right now. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a first overall pick look so petrified to receive the puck.

What’d y’all think?


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He just turned 20 in October.

Smarten up.

31 other teams would LOVE to have this guy.
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No idea what this is about or why I have a quote post in here


I was wondering the same.
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No idea what this is about or why I have a quote post in here


I just want to hear you’re opinion on think of this issue?
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Hes playing great hockey rn on what should be our 3rd line going forward
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not on the Rangers, they don't know how to develop for ****
24 nov. 2021 à 19 h 21
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Quoting: Penguins_Legend_Sheary
I know we just made a post a couple of weeks ago about him but I can’t help than to feel frustrated to see that Lafreniere has still not improved. We can’t blame the team anymore since they are playing well, plus there are multiple forwards from Lafreniere’s draft class who are outperforming him such as Raymond, Lundell, Jarvis, Stutzle and Mercer. So what exactly isn’t working for him at this point? I will give my personal observations below.

The Numbers: This is the one aspect in which Lafreniere does not look out of place in. Only 5 points through 18 games, but the underlying numbers are decent. He has the second highest on ice expected goals for per 60 amongst Rangers forwards, while his shooting selection and pass generation suggest he is nearly as efficient as some of the top playmaking wingers today. If we were to look at these, it would suggest that he’s on verge of breaking out, but it still hasn’t happened.

Marner - 0.66 iXG/60 + 0.73 xA/60

Kane - 0.66 iXG/60 + 0.82 xA/60

Huberdeau - 0.69 iXG/60 + 0.68 xA

Lafreniere - 0.75 iXG/60 + 0.62 xA

Marchand - 0.76 iXG/60 + 0.73 xA

Kaprizov - 0.76 iXG/60 + 0.61 xA


The Eye Test: This is probably most concerning observation of Lafreniere so far in his career. When he’s on the ice, he looks out of place, there is a clear gap between him and his opponents in ability. Though he hasn’t been able to accomplish anything consistently, his forecheck is probably the least worrisome of his abilities. He isn’t fast, but I’ve seen his plenty of times use his physicality and deceptiveness to retrieve the puck. Some nights he looks slow and out of gas, but I think he’s shown he’s got enough natural ability in this aspect. What really concerns me is he hasn’t shown any ability to facilitate plays with the puck on his stick in the offensive zone. Other than getting shots off in obvious goal scoring areas, he hasn’t been able to hold onto it and dictate the play. He looks completely lost when he gets it and will either defer it or dump it into a corner. At this point, it almost seems like he is scared of making a bad decision, he doesn’t want to turn it over or make an incorrect play that costs his team a scoring chance.

I have to admit, I don’t like that Gallant is always benching him, but the team is playing well and are looking to contend for the Cup, so you can’t have someone on the roster who’s not ready to play. I don’t want to call him a bust yet, but I think it’s getting to a point in which NYR should explore loaning him to Hartford or Europe to work on his game, maybe even trade him for a similar level prospect, cuz he’s not good enough for a roster spot on their team right now. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a first overall pick look so petrified to receive the puck.

What’d y’all think?


No, they should put him on waivers.

Who cares if he's waiver exempt.

WAIVERS I SAY!
24 nov. 2021 à 19 h 55
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I feel like he may need to learn how to play more like Matthew Tkachuk. Maybe not the agitator part of his game but definitely how Tkachuk forechecks, backchecks, makes plays in tight, uses his body, etc all while being a below average skater.
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He does this frequently.
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Kid has plenty of time on his side. He isn't a bust and needs to be given time to develop in the NHL. Some go quicker then others but he could still be that good hockey player most of us thought he would be. Btw, its not like he is glaringly bad. For example, Kirby Dach isn't putting up as many points as I would like, but I am seeing so many aspects of his game improve that I'm not worried by his point production currently. The same can be said for Lafreniere
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He does this frequently.


The next time it happens - to anyone that may be quoted - please tag me in the thread and I'll deal with it
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He just turned 20 in October.

Smarten up.

31 other teams would LOVE to have this guy.


Yeah as a Leaf fan I’d be willing to get him, even if he costs a top prospect like Amirov.
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Hes playing great hockey rn on what should be our 3rd line going forward


Is he playing well? He’s got 5 points in 18 games.
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not on the Rangers, they don't know how to develop for ****


Well, Kakko is playing really well.
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I feel like he may need to learn how to play more like Matthew Tkachuk. Maybe not the agitator part of his game but definitely how Tkachuk forechecks, backchecks, makes plays in tight, uses his body, etc all while being a below average skater.


I think Lafreniere is already showing the forechecking & physicality elements of guys like Tkachuk. The problem is the play dies on his stick every time he touches it.
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Yes sir.
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Kid has plenty of time on his side. He isn't a bust and needs to be given time to develop in the NHL. Some go quicker then others but he could still be that good hockey player most of us thought he would be. Btw, its not like he is glaringly bad. For example, Kirby Dach isn't putting up as many points as I would like, but I am seeing so many aspects of his game improve that I'm not worried by his point production currently. The same can be said for Lafreniere


Yeah some players need more time to develop but Lafreniere’s floor for an elite talent is as low as I’ve ever seen.
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He's just on the wrong team, can't find chemistry with other players on the team, NYR rushed him, he should have stayed another year in the minors, Sens should trade for him... If he doesn't play good this year, I'm sure his value will lower and possibly can get him at a lower cost
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He's just on the wrong team, can't find chemistry with other players on the team, NYR rushed him, he should have stayed another year in the minors, Sens should trade for him... If he doesn't play good this year, I'm sure his value will lower and possibly can get him at a lower cost


I think one of the reasons why he can't find chemistry with his teammates is cuz he's scared of them. Cuz he's never willing to try anything on his own.
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I think Lafreniere is already showing the forechecking & physicality elements of guys like Tkachuk. The problem is the play dies on his stick every time he touches it.


That's kinda what i mean. MT has become well known as a strong 2-way star player despite his lacking footspeed. Similarly Lafreniere lacks foot speed but has all the tools to be a similar style player to Tkachuk. I think he should model his game even more like Tkachuk's.
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That's kinda what i mean. MT has become well known as a strong 2-way star player despite his lacking footspeed. Similarly Lafreniere lacks foot speed but has all the tools to be a similar style player to Tkachuk. I think he should model his game even more like Tkachuk's.


Yeah for sure, one of my friends on IG suggested he could be a poor mans Tkachuk.
 
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