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Créé par: Dekes

Équipe: 2021-22 Bruins de Boston

Date de création initiale: 23 nov. 2021

Publié: 23 nov. 2021

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what's your thoughts?
Lysell A- tier prospect has the potential be elite id say if developed right should be a guaranteed high tier top 6 forward if you want a player comp id maybe say kaprizov smaller speedy winger with great hands, has an accurate shot but is better at setting up his teammates with high scoring chances
Debrusk well i think everyone knows who debrusk is, could possibly succeed with a new scenery would most likely get top line minutes with keller as i don't see kessel staying in ari and i know keller can play all 3 forward positions which allows debrusk to stay at LW. He is still young and could bounce back but he needs more play time and 5v5 and PP
Vaak not a high scoring dman but his defence has continuously improved would probably slot third pair to start in ari again only 22 and with ari's roster all players would be given lots of opportunities to develop.
then probably a 24-32OA 1st and a late 2nd most likely

all right now for the roster
-bruins secure their playmaking center in strome, should do well setting up hall and smith in terms of line skill they are pretty similiar yes obviously i take panarin over hall but i think the lines even out when comparing smith to kakko, So i don't see why he wouldn't put up similiar numbers in boston
- chychrun well that's obvious chucky's partner for the next 7+ yrs
- reilly is moved and i think zboril serves as a good replacement, forbort defensively has been solid and i think if partners were zboril who analytically has been great offensively would form a good 3rd pairing.

-wagner moved just due to the reason that cassidy is now more willing to give youngins like stud, steen ice time, he's also kinda of a dump even though he really isn't making much bruins just tight on cap

overall i think this roster looks much more complete hopefully chychrun trade is enough maybe stud could be added instead of debrusk and 2nd i'm not sure depends how much you value each player and pick

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Chychrun, Jakob

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DeBrusk, Jake
Lysell, Fabian
Vaakanainen, Urho
Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (BOS)
Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (BOS)

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Strome, Ryan

NYR

Reilly, Mike
Choix de 3e ronde en 2022 (CGY)

BOS

Choix de 6e ronde en 2022 (SEA)

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Wagner, Chris

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John Moore: 1 625 000 $ (2 750 000 $)

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TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
23	81 500 000 $	81 285 674 $	1 956 507 $	125 000 $	214 326 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Marchand, Brad 6 125 000 $6 125 000 $ AG NMC UFA - 4	Bergeron, Patrice 6 875 000 $6 875 000 $ C M-NTC, NMC UFA - 1	Pastrnak, David 6 666 667 $6 666 667 $ AD M-NTC, NMC UFA - 2
Hall, Taylor 6 000 000 $6 000 000 $ AG NMC UFA - 4	Strome, Ryan 4 500 000 $4 500 000 $ AD, C UFA - 1	Smith, Craig 3 100 000 $3 100 000 $ AD UFA - 2
Foligno, Nick 3 800 000 $3 800 000 $ AG, C, AD NMC UFA - 2		Coyle, Charlie 5 250 000 $5 250 000 $ C, AD M-NTC, NMC UFA - 5
Frederic, Trent 1 050 000 $1 050 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 2	Haula, Erik 2 375 000 $2 375 000 $ C, AG UFA - 2	Lazar, Curtis 800 000 $800 000 $ AD, C UFA - 1
	Nosek, Tomas 1 750 000 $1 750 000 $ AG, C UFA - 2

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Chychrun, Jakob 4 600 000 $4 600 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 4	McAvoy, Charlie 4 900 000 $4 900 000 $ DD UFA - 1	Ullmark, Linus 5 000 000 $5 000 000 $ G NMC UFA - 4
Grzelcyk, Matt 3 687 500 $3 687 500 $ DG UFA - 3	Carlo, Brandon 4 100 000 $4 100 000 $ DD UFA - 6	Swayman, Jeremy 925 000 $925 000 $ (125 000 $$125K) G RFA - 2
Forbort, Derek 3 000 000 $3 000 000 $ DG M-NTC UFA - 3	Zboril, Jakub 725 000 $725 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 1

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Kuhlman, Karson 725 000 $725 000 $ AD UFA - 1
Blidh, Anton 750 000 $750 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1
Clifton, Connor 1 000 000 $1 000 000 $ DD UFA - 2

23 nov. 2021 à 16 h 48

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Rangers need Strome more than Reilly so we pass.

23 nov. 2021 à 16 h 59

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Quoting: hero9154

Rangers need Strome more than Reilly so we pass.

fair enough i'd be willing to add more, i just saw reilly in a few rangers ACGM's so i assumed there was interest

23 nov. 2021 à 17 h 21

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Now the rangers have cap space and prospects amd while strome isnt as high end as rangers fans like he is productive and not some dead weight. they just won't give him away. Gonna take more than that to get him id say. Arizona should probably take a deal like that for chykrun but hes thier only real player and young and affordable so I doubt they move him unless its crazy.

23 nov. 2021 à 17 h 28

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Arizona declines, that doesn’t move the needle for them

23 nov. 2021 à 17 h 32

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Quoting: Jfstompers

Now the rangers have cap space and prospects amd while strome isnt as high end as rangers fans like he is productive and not some dead weight. They cap space too so they just won't give him away. Gonna take more than that to get him id say. Arizona should probably take a deal like that for chykrun but hes thier only real player and young and affordable so I doubt they move him unless its crazy.

fair enough ya i would be willing to add more for strome like a b tier prospect and maybe rangers return a 4th-/5th rd pick. as for chychrun thanks for the input i really wanted to know if the value was good for both sides. i just see chychrun needing to be moved his career will go to waste their as they are 5+ years away from even having a winning record, Futures and young players just allow them to have a completely new restart build from the draft again if they get wright then boom they have wright, lysell, keller, guenther and hayton to build there offence around and no longer need to focus on that need and can go heavy on defence for a few years and even then soderstrom, timmins, vaak isn't an awful young d-core to build around they all have potential to reach a top 4 role. the 2023 draft has a few top tier d prospects if they don't get pick 1 or 2 and get bedard or michkov

23 nov. 2021 à 17 h 45

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Quoting: Yotes269

Arizona declines, that doesn’t move the needle for them

just wondering though what does for you guys though? like no offence but arizona is in one of the worst situation's i have ever seen, and i wouldn't be surprised if in a year or 2 you see chychrun pulling an eichel like situation and forcing himself out for cheap. just because arizona gets a top 5 pick for the next 3-5 years doesn't mean anything for your future look how many top picks for edmonton to translate any success it wasn't till mcdavid that edmonton truely started to get good. like hall, yakupov waste of picks considering the return for hall and what yakupov became, nurse and nuge it took mcdavid for them to blossom into stars even drai he is one hell of a player but without mcdavid does he reach the level he is at now. you guys may get wright and bedard but i don't know if they are mcdavid caliber players they might play as good as him in juniors but the thing is every year mcdavid proves more and more why is the best first he averages 1ppg then its 1.2 then 1.5 then 1.75 then 2ppg guys like that don't come around often, players of that skill are 1 in a generation he will go down as the elite group like Orr, Gretzky, Lemiux, Lindstrom, crosby who could almost single handedly turn a franchise around and that's what it will take for arizona to even get close to being decent again. so im opinion i think for the better of your franchise you try to acquire all the pieces you can get rather just 1 solid player. people say quality over quantity but it takes quantity for a team to have success

23 nov. 2021 à 18 h 13

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Chychrun is a 1D signed at $4.6m for 3 more years after this, with no NMC like eichel, and he’s healthy. They have absolutely no need to sell him and will only do it for multiple 1sts, one of which has to be a top 10 pick. Also an A level prospect like lysell or Turcotte. 1D’s signed for $9-$9.5 this offseason, every team in the league would be in on those trade talks driving the price up to ridiculous levels

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23 nov. 2021 à 18 h 26

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Quoting: Yotes269

chychrun was a 1D last season for sure, he has a struggled big time this season and with the roster he will have around him for the next few years he will probably continue to struggle therefore decreasing his value. Arizona isn't a big name team that draws free agents so that's out of the question they will have to build through the draft which also takes time it would be different if ari had a bunch of A level prospects in the pipeline like buffalo and La and ottawa but ari has 1 in guenther even if you get wright. wright, guenther and chychrun aren't enough to turn a franchise around. It is also arizona there really isn't much special about that state other then hot weather but still it is a retirement home and has one of the smallest fan bases in the league atleast if you were in like LA, Florida, San jose, Anaheim and were in Ari's position you still got hot weather, good fan bases, bigger sports cities, and for young athletes probably have a lot more to offer to them in terms of entertainment and activites to do. I honestly believe if bill armstrong went up to chychrun today and asked him if he would prefer to be traded elsewhere he would 100% say yes and when teams find out a player wants to leave they lowball them so even there you would probably only get 75-80% of what ari's values him for

23 nov. 2021 à 18 h 31

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Quoting: Dekes

chychrun was a 1D last season for sure, he has a struggled big time this season and with the roster he will have around him for the next few years he will probably continue to struggle therefore decreasing his value. Arizona isn't a big name team that draws free agents so that's out of the question they will have to build through the draft which also takes time it would be different if ari had a bunch of A level prospects in the pipeline like buffalo and La and ottawa but ari has 1 in guenther even if you get wright. wright, guenther and chychrun aren't enough to turn a franchise around. It is also arizona there really isn't much special about that state other then hot weather but still it is a retirement home and has one of the smallest fan bases in the league atleast if you were in like LA, Florida, San jose, Anaheim you got hot weather, good fan bases, bigger sports cities, and for young atleast probably have a lot more to offer to them in terms of entertainment and activites to do. I honestly believe if bill armstrong went up to chychrun today and asked him if he would prefer to be traded elsewhere he would 100% say yes

Arizona is a pretty popular winter home destination… if the yotes were good it would be a prime free agent destination. Chychrun’s numbers were dragged down by unsustainable shooting percentages against while on the ice, and low shooting percentage for while on ice. He’s got 4 points in his last 5, his struggles are definitely exaggerated by people who simply check to box score. Sure if you ask him if he wants to be traded, he likely says yes, but who cares? He doesn’t have a NMC, he can’t force anything at all. He would receive a fortune at the draft, it’s also not a 1 year rebuild, it’s a 3-4 year process. Say you move him to LA, you get a top 10 pick which can be used on nemec or jiricek, you get a 23 1, and you get Turcotte. Now your rebuild could be started with Wright, guenther, nemec/jiricek, Turcotte, plus your other 2 1st round picks and 5 2nd round picks. It’s not as bad or as desperate as you’re making it out to be

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