Quoting: ragger_lord
Bumbling is the insult... And you did it again with the grow up please. If I wrote the entire description regarding when he was traded (deadline, draft, etc) I guarantee almost no one would read it. I've had it happen multiple times, people don't read the description or trade box. It's much easier to just reply in comments because people inevitably ask anyways.
Regarding the contract stuff, I'm basing the negotiation period around Jones. Jones was traded on the 23rd and FA opened on the 28th but it was understood they already had an extension in place. Horvat would be in the same contract situation.
Admittedly I don't know if they could do it at the deadline, but at the draft it would be feasible.
Bumbling just means ineffective, as in, your path to what you want wasn't effective. As for the grow up, that was in response to a teenagers style excuse. We're adults, take ownership of your actions.
The Seth Jones contract, although I see your intent is using it as an example, has conflicting reports on it. I can't say it's a bad example, but it's definitely not standard. I can't find any info on which team negotiated the contract. Capfriendly has it listed as finalized on July 23rd, and other reports are July 28th and July 29th. It's much more common for a sign and trade, than whatever truly happened there. The end result was what they all wanted, so that's a definite positive.
Here's the original trade proposed;
VAN
Bernard-Docker, Jacob [RFA Rights]
White, Colin ($1,500,000 retained)
2022 1st round pick (OTT)
OTT
Horvat, Bo
Additional Details:
Traded in 2022, signs extension July 1 2022
And here's my revised version of what I think you wanted to propose, correct me if I'm wrong.
VAN
Bernard-Docker, Jacob [RFA Rights]
White, Colin ($1,500,000 retained)
2022 1st round pick (OTT) (top 10 protected)
OTT
Horvat, Bo
Additional Details:
Traded with extension in place, signs extension July 1 2022
Then of course, the other discussed alterations from this thread would be made.
I hope you understand now why I was taken aback at the comment, "But that's a lot to write in the little trade box which a lot of people only skim over. "
As for Bo Horvat, I like him, but I wouldn't give him an 8 year deal myself, maybe 5 or 6 years, ages 28 thru 32 or 33. Having written that, I would probably go 6 years, and plan a TDL trade at age 32 with 1 season remaining. I don't know what I would offer for Horvat, mostly because I'm not sure what direction the Canucks want to go, rebuild with picks, retool, all in and compete now, or anywhere in between, but I doubt Ottawa's 1st in on the table for any player other than a 75+ point 1C.