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Every Steve Yzerman Trade With the Wings - How Many Did He Win

Créé par: Roysboy72
Date de création initiale: 23 nov. 2021
Publié: 23 nov. 2021
Équipe: 2021-22 Red Wings de Detroit
Explications
Not counting draft pick trades (trading up or down on the draft floor).
Also not detailing who was picked with draft picks that were given up, the value of magic beans is constant, and not affected by who was picked using them.

For each trade, did Yzerman win? Did he lose? Is it a draw? Does it even matter?
This is also a good way to figure out and analyze how Yzerman does his business, you can see the types of moves he makes depending on the team's situation and even how his aggressiveness in making those moves evolves over time.
Transactions
1.
DET
    Mitchell Stephens
    TBL
      2022 6th (DET)
      2.
      DET
        Alex Nedeljkovic (RFA Rights)
        CAR
          Jonathan Bernier (UFA Rights)
          2021 3rd (VGK - #94)
          3.
          DET
            Nick Leddy
            NYI
              Richard Panik ($1,375,000 retained - 50%)
              2021 2nd (EDM - #52)
              4.
              DET
                Richard Panik
                Jakub Vrana
                2021 1st (WSH - #23)
                2022 2nd (WSH)
                WSH
                  Anthony Mantha
                  5.
                  DET
                    Hayden Verbeek
                    2021 5th (OTT - #138)
                    MTL
                      Jon Merrill
                      6.
                      DET
                        2021 4th (TBL - #128)
                        TBL
                          $1,062,500 retained on David Savard
                          Brian Lashoff
                          7.
                          DET
                            2022 4th (COL)
                            COL
                              Patrik Nemeth ($1,500,000 retained - 50%)
                              8.
                              DET
                                Future Considerations
                                NYI
                                  Dmytro Timashov
                                  9.
                                  DET
                                    Marc Staal
                                    2021 2nd (NYR - #48)
                                    NYR
                                      Future Considerations
                                      10.
                                      DET
                                        Sam Gagner ($315,000 retained - 10%)
                                        2020 2nd (EDM - #45)
                                        2021 2nd (EDM - #52)
                                        EDM
                                          Andreas Athanasiou
                                          Ryan Kuffner
                                          11.
                                          DET
                                            Kyle Brodziak
                                            2020 4th (EDM - #107)
                                            EDM
                                              Mike Green ($2,687,500 retained - 50%)
                                              12.
                                              DET
                                                Kyle Wood
                                                CAR
                                                  Oliwer Kaski
                                                  13.
                                                  DET
                                                    Eric Comrie
                                                    ARI
                                                      Vili Saarijarvi
                                                      14.
                                                      DET
                                                        Robby Fabbri
                                                        STL
                                                          Jacob De La Rose
                                                          15.
                                                          DET
                                                            Brendan Perlini
                                                            CHI
                                                              Alec Regula
                                                              16.
                                                              DET
                                                                Alex Biega
                                                                VAN
                                                                  David Pope
                                                                  17.
                                                                  DET
                                                                    Adam Erne
                                                                    TBL
                                                                      2020 4th (DET - #94)
                                                                      Rachats de contrats
                                                                      • Frans Nielsen: 4 250 000 $
                                                                      • Justin Abdelkader: 2 305 556 $
                                                                      Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
                                                                      • Richard Pánik: 1 375 000 $ (50%)
                                                                      ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
                                                                      2022
                                                                      DET
                                                                      DET
                                                                      WSH
                                                                      DET
                                                                      DET
                                                                      COL
                                                                      VGK
                                                                      DET
                                                                      DET
                                                                      2023
                                                                      DET
                                                                      DET
                                                                      DET
                                                                      DET
                                                                      DET
                                                                      DET
                                                                      DET
                                                                      2024
                                                                      DET
                                                                      DET
                                                                      DET
                                                                      DET
                                                                      DET
                                                                      DET
                                                                      DET
                                                                      TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
                                                                      2381 500 000 $69 929 723 $0 $4 518 750 $11 570 277 $
                                                                      Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
                                                                      DET
                                                                      Bertuzzi, Tyler
                                                                      4 750 000 $
                                                                      AG, AD
                                                                      UFA - 2
                                                                      DET
                                                                      Larkin, Dylan
                                                                      6 100 000 $
                                                                      C, AG
                                                                      UFA - 2
                                                                      DET
                                                                      Namestnikov, Vladislav
                                                                      2 000 000 $
                                                                      AD, AG, C
                                                                      UFA - 1
                                                                      DET
                                                                      Fabbri, Robby
                                                                      2 950 000 $
                                                                      AG, C
                                                                      UFA - 1
                                                                      DET
                                                                      Suter, Pius
                                                                      3 250 000 $
                                                                      C, AG
                                                                      UFA - 2
                                                                      DET
                                                                      Raymond, Lucas
                                                                      925 000 $
                                                                      AD, AG
                                                                      RFA - 3
                                                                      DET
                                                                      Erne, Adam
                                                                      2 100 000 $
                                                                      AG, AD
                                                                      UFA - 2
                                                                      DET
                                                                      Veleno, Joseph
                                                                      894 167 $
                                                                      C
                                                                      RFA - 2
                                                                      DET
                                                                      Zadina, Filip
                                                                      894 167 $
                                                                      AD, AG
                                                                      RFA - 1
                                                                      DET
                                                                      Rasmussen, Michael
                                                                      1 460 000 $
                                                                      AG, C, AD
                                                                      RFA - 3
                                                                      DET
                                                                      Gagner, Sam
                                                                      850 000 $
                                                                      C, AD
                                                                      UFA - 1
                                                                      DET
                                                                      Smith, Givani
                                                                      750 000 $
                                                                      AG
                                                                      RFA - 2
                                                                      DET
                                                                      Rowney, Carter
                                                                      825 000 $
                                                                      C, AD
                                                                      UFA - 1
                                                                      Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
                                                                      DET
                                                                      Leddy, Nick
                                                                      5 500 000 $
                                                                      DG
                                                                      UFA - 1
                                                                      DET
                                                                      Hronek, Filip
                                                                      4 400 000 $
                                                                      DD
                                                                      RFA - 3
                                                                      DET
                                                                      Greiss, Thomas
                                                                      3 600 000 $
                                                                      G
                                                                      UFA - 1
                                                                      DET
                                                                      DeKeyser, Danny
                                                                      5 000 000 $
                                                                      DG
                                                                      NTC
                                                                      UFA - 1
                                                                      DET
                                                                      Stecher, Troy
                                                                      1 700 000 $
                                                                      DD
                                                                      UFA - 1
                                                                      DET
                                                                      Nedeljkovic, Alex
                                                                      3 000 000 $
                                                                      G
                                                                      UFA - 2
                                                                      DET
                                                                      Staal, Marc
                                                                      2 000 000 $
                                                                      DG
                                                                      NMC
                                                                      UFA - 1
                                                                      DET
                                                                      Seider, Moritz
                                                                      863 333 $
                                                                      DD
                                                                      RFA - 3
                                                                      DET
                                                                      Oesterle, Jordan
                                                                      1 350 000 $
                                                                      DG/DD
                                                                      UFA - 2
                                                                      DET
                                                                      Lindström, Gustav
                                                                      850 000 $
                                                                      DD
                                                                      RFA - 2
                                                                      Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
                                                                      DET
                                                                      Vrána, Jakub
                                                                      5 250 000 $
                                                                      AG
                                                                      UFA - 3
                                                                      DET
                                                                      Stephens, Mitchell
                                                                      737 500 $
                                                                      C
                                                                      RFA - 1

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                                                                      23 nov. 2021 à 12 h 47
                                                                      #1
                                                                      10k posts gang
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                                                                      definitely the merrill trade
                                                                      but thats all i know
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                                                                      23 nov. 2021 à 12 h 50
                                                                      #2
                                                                      PlusMinus is stupid
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                                                                      Every single trade has been a win or a push, except the Regula trade, but even he hasn't made an impact in the NHL, so even that one might be a push...
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                                                                      23 nov. 2021 à 12 h 52
                                                                      #3
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                                                                      the ned and mantha trades are his two biggest wins imo.
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                                                                      23 nov. 2021 à 12 h 57
                                                                      #4
                                                                      scott sabourin
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                                                                      None are losses. Some have had no impact and but some have been crazy successful. (Ned and Mantha)
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                                                                      23 nov. 2021 à 12 h 57
                                                                      #5
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                                                                      Secret Thrashers Fan
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                                                                      I'm just gonna do a full count for myself, W-L-T. Also not gonna have Wood for Kaski or Timashov for Future Considerations in the count, as they didn't really have an affect on either team and pretty much only serve to muddy up the numbers.

                                                                      10 - 0 - 5

                                                                      No losses I can find. Closest ones are possibly Comrie for Saarijarvi or Perlini for Regula, but I'd have to see the prospects actually pan out before I declare a winner on either. Even then, those are quite minor.
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                                                                      23 nov. 2021 à 12 h 59
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                                                                      please resign Hertl
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                                                                      It’s Stevie Y, can hate the Wings all anyone wants but Yzerman does NOT take L’s often.

                                                                      The guy has a big draft/ year coming up and then we should expect the Wings to start being real players in the East.
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                                                                      23 nov. 2021 à 12 h 59
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                                                                      Quoting: bagelbob
                                                                      the ned and mantha trades are his two biggest wins imo.

                                                                      That Fabbri trade was a fleecing too... A 4th liner, that we got off of waivers, for a guy that has become a legit top 6 scorer... Pretty huge win...
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                                                                      23 nov. 2021 à 13 h 1
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                                                                      why r u so pissy
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                                                                      man I was so excited for AA, he was suppose to be the a great line mate for McDavid he even score a goal in his first game as a Oiler, another one of those Oilers what ifs
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                                                                      23 nov. 2021 à 13 h 5
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                                                                      Quoting: oilersguy
                                                                      man I was so excited for AA, he was suppose to be the a great line mate for McDavid he even score a goal in his first game as a Oiler, another one of those Oilers what ifs

                                                                      Yeah, paying that much for him just to play him in the bottom 6 and let him go for nothing in free agency was just a disgrace. Only thirteen games as an Oiler including playoffs. The Wings came out big on that one, we got more service out of the cap casualty, Gagner, than Edmonton got out of the centerpiece, Athanasiou.
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                                                                      23 nov. 2021 à 13 h 5
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                                                                      Mantha trade was win win for both teams. DET got a great young player and Caps got a player that fits their style a bit more and some cap space.
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                                                                      23 nov. 2021 à 13 h 16
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                                                                      PlusMinus is stupid
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                                                                      Quoting: ClockReads2113
                                                                      Mantha trade was win win for both teams. DET got a great young player and Caps got a player that fits their style a bit more and some cap space.

                                                                      I also view that trade as a push.
                                                                      23 nov. 2021 à 14 h 13
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                                                                      The only one remotely close to a loss right now is Regula, but it's still undetermined. So, in general, Steve either ties, wins, or wins big.
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                                                                      23 nov. 2021 à 14 h 33
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                                                                      Start from the bottom and work up
                                                                      17 - I say win as I think his value to the team has been great and he might be worth a bit more than a fourth now
                                                                      16 - win as getting even a fringe NHL guy for a guy who will never play in the league is a win
                                                                      15 - Push, regula hasn't done much in the AHL. Perlini didn't really do anything either.
                                                                      14-big win, waiver claim to acquire nhl forward
                                                                      13-push, 3 games that didn't amount to much for a guy not going to make it, no one wins
                                                                      12-push, but kaski putting up decent numbers in the KHL
                                                                      11-considering green didn't do much in Edmonton, win for getting something for him
                                                                      10-big win
                                                                      9-win
                                                                      8-push? They got an AHL guy for free that's fine
                                                                      7-win? Got something for an UFA
                                                                      6-win
                                                                      5-win
                                                                      4- I think this is a win too for Detroit, but both teams got what they wanted
                                                                      3- I'll say this is a win too, we needed LD, plus got rid of a guy for one of our multiple second rounders. But a bigger win if he signs or gets flipped for more.
                                                                      2- win
                                                                      1- win
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                                                                      23 nov. 2021 à 18 h 10
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                                                                      The Nick Leddy trade was a loss. He’s not great defensively at all and haven’t been for the last couple of years. For one more year at 5.5 and an actual higher salary for essentially Aatu Räty in Red Wings position was objectively not great. Pánik’s also very serviceable in a bottom-6 for 1.375 mil.
                                                                       
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