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Another way to improve at the tdl

Créé par: ragger_lord
Date de création initiale: 22 nov. 2021
Publié: 22 nov. 2021
Équipe: 2021-22 Oilers d'Edmonton
Explications
Not an Oilers fan but I do watch some games.

IMO this is the year to go all in. All picks/prospects other than Bouch should be untouchable.

General idea is to get some solid goaltending while also improving the bottom 6 and defense.

The Pitt players provide more depth and allow you to roll a balanced lineup (show) or stack the top 6 and still have competent bottom 6 wingers
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EDM
  1. Varlamov, Semyon
Détails additionnels:
EDM get a solid goalie.
NYI
  1. Broberg, Philip
  2. 2022 2e round pick (EDM)
Détails additionnels:
NYI get a LD that may be able to step in and good pick
2.
EDM
    Cap space needs to be cleared
    ARI
    1. Koskinen, Mikko
    2. 2023 2e round pick (EDM)
    3.
    EDM
    1. Chiarot, Ben (1 750 000 $ retained)
    Détails additionnels:
    Solid defensive upgrade.
    MTL
    1. 2022 1e round pick (EDM)
    4.
    EDM
    1. Aston-Reese, Zach
    2. Heinen, Danton
    Détails additionnels:
    Depth
    PIT
    1. 2023 1e round pick (EDM)
    No idea on the value here.
    5.
    EDM
      Anywhere for future consideration
      DET
      1. Russell, Kris
      6.
      EDM
      1. Boyd, Travis
      ARI
      1. Ryan, Derek
      Rachats de contrats
      • James Neal: 1 916 667 $
      • Andrej Sekera: 1 500 000 $
      Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
      • Milan Lucic: 750 000 $ (13%)
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      Hyman, Zach
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      UFA - 7
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      McDavid, Connor
      12 500 000 $
      C
      UFA - 5
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      Puljujärvi, Jesse
      1 175 000 $
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      RFA - 1
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      Heinen, Danton
      1 100 000 $
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      RFA - 1
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      Draisaitl, Leon
      8 500 000 $
      C, AG
      UFA - 4
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      Yamamoto, Kailer
      1 175 000 $
      AD, C
      RFA - 1
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      Foegele, Warren
      2 750 000 $
      AG, AD
      UFA - 3
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      Nugent-Hopkins, Ryan
      5 125 000 $
      AG, C
      NMC
      UFA - 8
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      Aston-Reese, Zach
      1 725 000 $
      AG, AD
      UFA - 1
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      Boyd, Travis
      750 000 $
      C, AD
      UFA - 1
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      Turris, Kyle
      1 650 000 $
      C, AD
      UFA - 1
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      Kassian, Zack
      3 200 000 $
      AD
      UFA - 3
      Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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      Nurse, Darnell
      5 600 000 $
      DG
      UFA - 1
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      Bouchard, Evan
      863 333 $
      DD
      RFA - 2
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      Varlamov, Semyon
      5 000 000 $
      G
      NTC
      UFA - 2
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      Chiarot, Ben
      0 $
      DG/DD
      NTC
      UFA - 1
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      Barrie, Tyson
      4 500 000 $
      DD
      UFA - 3
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      Smith, Mike
      2 200 000 $
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      UFA - 2
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      Keith, Duncan
      5 538 462 $
      DG
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      UFA - 2
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      Ceci, Cody
      3 250 000 $
      DD
      UFA - 4
      Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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      Koekkoek, Slater
      925 000 $
      DG/DD
      UFA - 2
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      Klefbom, Oscar
      4 167 000 $
      DG
      NTC
      UFA - 2
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      McLeod, Ryan
      834 167 $
      C
      RFA - 1
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      Archibald, Josh
      1 500 000 $
      AD, AG
      UFA - 1
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      Lagesson, William
      725 000 $
      DG
      UFA - 1
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      Stalock, Alex
      785 000 $
      G
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      Équipe de réserve
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      Shore, Devin
      850 000 $ (0 $)
      AG, C, AD
      UFA - 2
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      Skinner, Stuart
      750 000 $ (0 $)
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      Perlini, Brendan
      750 000 $ (0 $)
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      Sceviour, Colton
      750 000 $ (0 $)
      AD, C
      UFA - 1
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      Benson, Tyler
      750 000 $ (0 $)
      AG, AD
      RFA - 1

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      22 nov. 2021 à 18 h 50
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      i mean, the islanders would take it, but that seems like a lot for varly? isn’t broberg supposed to be really good?
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      Quoting: bagelbob
      i mean, the islanders would take it, but that seems like a lot for varly? isn’t broberg supposed to be really good?


      Maybe I'm over valuing Varly but he's signed through next season so not a pure rental.

      He also backed NYI to the ECF is back to back years, I really think he would be a huge piece for Edmonton.
      22 nov. 2021 à 18 h 53
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      Quoting: bagelbob
      i mean, the islanders would take it, but that seems like a lot for varly? isn’t broberg supposed to be really good?


      Broberg is Edmonton’s 2019 1st round(8th overall) pick, he’s supposed to be really good, he has great edges and skating. Played his first game and got his first point the other day. If Edmonton were to give up that ridiculous price. It would be for Gibson or someone of his value. I.E. Blackwood. Varly is good. But not that good.
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      Quoting: ragger_lord
      Maybe I'm over valuing Varly but he's signed through next season so not a pure rental.

      He also backed NYI to the ECF is back to back years, I really think he would be a huge piece for Edmonton.


      i think a first would be enough to get it done, honestly.
      22 nov. 2021 à 19 h 4
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      I don't mind these moves
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      22 nov. 2021 à 19 h 5
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      No thanks. I wouldn’t do any of these trades except for maybe the Chiarot trade. Broberg is supposed to be a good defence man in the future, and did play good on his debut. Definitely wouldn’t trade him for a goalie in his 30s. A first for Aston-Reese, and Heinen is too much in my opinion. They are good depth guys, but you can get them for much cheeper. Koskinen has been a good goalie this year, so I don’t see us paying to get rid of him now. Also, it’s crazy, but he is playing better than Varlamov! Yes Varlamov has played way less games, but still. With the season he had last year, you would expect him to have better numbers. Also, I rather Ryan over Boyd. Yes Boyd has more points, but he is Arizona’s 2c, as Ryan is our 3c. Boyd is probably on their PP, and PK too.

      Koskinen: 11GP, 9W, 2L, 2.96GAA, .910SV%

      Broberg: NHL: 1GP, 1A, 1P, 0+/-. AHL: 13GP, 10A, 10P, +4+/-

      Varlamov: 4GP, 3L, 3.32GAA, .894SV%

      Heinen: 17GP, 5G, 3A, 8P, -2+/-

      Aston-Reese: 15GP, 5A, 5P, 3+/-

      Ryan vs Boyd,

      Ryan: 15GP, 1G, 1P, -10+/-

      Boyd: 12GP, 3G, 3A, 6P, +1+/-
      22 nov. 2021 à 19 h 20
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      Quoting: Nhl_oilers
      No thanks. I wouldn’t do any of these trades except for maybe the Chiarot trade. Broberg is supposed to be a good defence man in the future, and did play good on his debut. Definitely wouldn’t trade him for a goalie in his 30s. A first for Aston-Reese, and Heinen is too much in my opinion. They are good depth guys, but you can get them for much cheeper. Koskinen has been a good goalie this year, so I don’t see us paying to get rid of him now. Also, it’s crazy, but he is playing better than Varlamov! Yes Varlamov has played way less games, but still. With the season he had last year, you would expect him to have better numbers. Also, I rather Ryan over Boyd. Yes Boyd has more points, but he is Arizona’s 2c, as Ryan is our 3c. Boyd is probably on their PP, and PK too.

      Koskinen: 11GP, 9W, 2L, 2.96GAA, .910SV%

      Broberg: NHL: 1GP, 1A, 1P, 0+/-. AHL: 13GP, 10A, 10P, +4+/-

      Varlamov: 4GP, 3L, 3.32GAA, .894SV%

      Heinen: 17GP, 5G, 3A, 8P, -2+/-

      Aston-Reese: 15GP, 5A, 5P, 3+/-

      Ryan vs Boyd,

      Ryan: 15GP, 1G, 1P, -10+/-

      Boyd: 12GP, 3G, 3A, 6P, +1+/-


      Koskinen may be playing better now, but I have my doubts Koskinen and Smith is a goalie tandem that can lead you to a cup. Varly has proven he can bring a team deep in the playoffs. I wouldn't put too much stock in the 4 games he's played this season.

      Boyd and Ryan was a swap purely because it was needed due to the cap (also lol Boyd is their 2C).

      It's always hard to evaluate prices at the deadline re the Pitt guys. Imo both those guys provide more value than a Foligno or Savard and both went for firsts.
      22 nov. 2021 à 19 h 25
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      Quoting: ragger_lord
      Koskinen may be playing better now, but I have my doubts Koskinen and Smith is a goalie tandem that can lead you to a cup. Varly has proven he can bring a team deep in the playoffs. I wouldn't put too much stock in the 4 games he's played this season.

      Boyd and Ryan was a swap purely because it was needed due to the cap (also lol Boyd is their 2C).

      It's always hard to evaluate prices at the deadline re the Pitt guys. Imo both those guys provide more value than a Foligno or Savard and both went for firsts.


      I disagree. Foligno, and Savard are worth more in my opinion. They were better at the time. I understand why you have your doubts about Koskinen, and Smith. We will see how they play for the reminder of the games before the deadline. Varlamov, I would like to see more of to see if he can bounce back, and play like he did in the past. I also wouldn’t give them Broberg for Varlamov. That wouldn’t work In my opinion. That makes sense if you needed the cap for the other trades, but I would rather Ryan. And yes, Boyd has been Arizona’s 2c.
      22 nov. 2021 à 19 h 27
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      22 nov. 2021 à 19 h 44
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      I disagree. Foligno, and Savard are worth more in my opinion. They were better at the time. I understand why you have your doubts about Koskinen, and Smith. We will see how they play for the reminder of the games before the deadline. Varlamov, I would like to see more of to see if he can bounce back, and play like he did in the past. I also wouldn’t give them Broberg for Varlamov. That wouldn’t work In my opinion. That makes sense if you needed the cap for the other trades, but I would rather Ryan. And yes, Boyd has been Arizona’s 2c.


      I understand your concern about varly and i know he wouldnt get the price i would hope for rn. That being said he was injured throughout training camp and the beginning of the season. Goalies need a little time to get in a rythm and varly hasnt had that. His team also hasnt helped him at all either bc it was the end of a month long road trip or bc it was an ahl caliber team. I wouldnt exoect you to want this deal rn but i would bet on him getting back to form with a few more starts and guys getting healthy.
      22 nov. 2021 à 22 h 21
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      I understand your concern about varly and i know he wouldnt get the price i would hope for rn. That being said he was injured throughout training camp and the beginning of the season. Goalies need a little time to get in a rythm and varly hasnt had that. His team also hasnt helped him at all either bc it was the end of a month long road trip or bc it was an ahl caliber team. I wouldnt exoect you to want this deal rn but i would bet on him getting back to form with a few more starts and guys getting healthy.


      Yes I can concerned about Varlamov. I would like to trade for him if he played like he did in the past. Of course not that big of a package, because that’s nuts, but I would entertain a trade at the deadline, if he plays better. We will see…
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