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they should punt

Créé par: bagelbob
Date de création initiale: 21 nov. 2021
Publié: 22 nov. 2021
Équipe: 2021-22 Islanders de New York
Explications
i’ve come to the conclusion that a top 10 pick is a far better choice for this roster to extend the window than trying to go for it now. the team isn’t very good. nelson might be out for a bit. all of those things are bad. getting one of the top guys in this draft (wright/nemec/savoie/cooley/geekie/miroshnichenko/whoever else i’m too lazy to google it) is better for us than trying whatever here. the lines are insignificant, i just got rid of the ahl players on here. i also included my relative interest/disinterest in trading players and what i think we could get for them. anyway, if we can’t get wright, i like savoie and cooley best, or nemec if we wanted a D but imo we prob don’t want an RD as much as we would a forward since we have pulock and dobson but can’t score.
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NYI
    guys you definitely move (hopefully for a 1st or 2nd)
    ANA
    1. Varlamov, Semyon
    2. Bailey, Josh
    2.
    NYI
      guys you think about moving for the right price (both of these guys could return a first i’d imagine)
      ANA
      1. Mayfield, Scott
      2. Nelson, Brock
      3.
      NYI
        move them if you can, but wait. i feel like their value can’t get much lower bc they’ve been struggling rn. i don’t think they’re super tradeable, so just wait and see
        ANA
        1. Pageau, Jean-Gabriel
        2. Palmieri, Kyle
        4.
        NYI
          if you’re REALLY tearing it down, this guy is probably the most valuable player on the team. absolutely could return a 1st and a top prospect if not more.
          ANA
          1. Pulock, Ryan
          Rachats de contrats
          • Rick DiPietro: 0 $
          Enfoui
          • Thomas Hickey: 1 375 000 $ (2 500 000 $)
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          COL
          NYI
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          NYI
          2023
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          NYI
          NYI
          NYI
          NYI
          NYI
          2024
          NYI
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          TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
          1781 500 000 $45 871 688 $1 365 854 $2 857 500 $35 628 312 $
          Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
          NYI
          Lee, Anders
          7 000 000 $
          AG, C
          NTC
          UFA - 5
          NYI
          Barzal, Mathew
          7 000 000 $
          C
          RFA - 2
          NYI
          Wahlstrom, Oliver
          894 167 $
          AD, C
          RFA - 2
          NYI
          Beauvillier, Anthony
          4 150 000 $
          AG
          UFA - 3
          NYI
          Bellows, Kieffer
          750 000 $
          AG, AD
          RFA - 1
          NYI
          Pánik, Richard
          1 375 000 $
          AG, AD
          UFA - 2
          NYI
          Parise, Zach
          750 000 $
          AG
          UFA - 1
          NYI
          Cizikas, Casey
          2 500 000 $
          C
          UFA - 6
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          Clutterbuck, Cal
          3 500 000 $
          AD
          UFA - 1
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          Martin, Matt
          1 500 000 $
          AG, AD
          UFA - 3
          Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
          NYI
          Pelech, Adam
          5 750 000 $
          DG
          UFA - 8
          NYI
          Dobson, Noah
          894 167 $
          DD
          RFA - 1
          NYI
          Sorokin, Ilya
          4 000 000 $
          G
          UFA - 3
          NYI
          Salo, Robin
          842 500 $
          DG
          RFA - 1
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          Greene, Andy
          750 000 $
          DG/DD
          UFA - 1
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          Aho, Sebastian
          725 000 $
          DG
          RFA - 1
          Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
          NYI
          Chara, Zdeno
          750 000 $
          DG
          UFA - 1

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          22 nov. 2021 à 0 h 6
          #1
          Islanders Fan
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          Take Pulock off this list right now lol
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          22 nov. 2021 à 0 h 9
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          Quoting: joshelkin
          Take Pulock off this list right now lol


          Yes. Trim the players off dragging the team down (chara, Aho, Martin, and even Bailey and Nelson.

          Get the D to step up on the Blue Line and let’s see what happens.
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          22 nov. 2021 à 0 h 11
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          The isles do not need to tear it down - they need to get back to their identity and play pelech-Pulock together. They also need to end the 4th line. Give cizikas two new wingers. The issue with this team is bottom of the lineup players are making costly mistakes at the same time forwards in the top 6 are experiencing bad shooting luck.

          I would trade Varlamov , Bailey, and Mayfield let Clutterbuck walk and go with this lineup next season.

          Nelson-Barzal-Wahlstrom
          Beau-Pageau- trade/UFA
          Lee-Raty- Golyshev
          Panik-cizikas-UFA

          Pelech-Pulock
          Salo-Dobson
          Ian Cole-Hutton
          22 nov. 2021 à 0 h 15
          #4
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          Quoting: joshelkin
          Take Pulock off this list right now lol


          they should def not move him but if they’re REALLY blowing it up, he’s the most valuable guy on the roster lol!
          22 nov. 2021 à 0 h 23
          #5
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          Quoting: Db1899
          The isles do not need to tear it down - they need to get back to their identity and play pelech-Pulock together. They also need to end the 4th line. Give cizikas two new wingers. The issue with this team is bottom of the lineup players are making costly mistakes at the same time forwards in the top 6 are experiencing bad shooting luck.

          I would trade Varlamov , Bailey, and Mayfield let Clutterbuck walk and go with this lineup next season.

          Nelson-Barzal-Wahlstrom
          Beau-Pageau- trade/UFA
          Lee-Raty- Golyshev
          Panik-cizikas-UFA

          Pelech-Pulock
          Salo-Dobson
          Ian Cole-Hutton


          What'd you do with Palmieri?.. Lol
          22 nov. 2021 à 0 h 23
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          Quoting: Db1899
          The isles do not need to tear it down - they need to get back to their identity and play pelech-Pulock together. They also need to end the 4th line. Give cizikas two new wingers. The issue with this team is bottom of the lineup players are making costly mistakes at the same time forwards in the top 6 are experiencing bad shooting luck.


          tear it down and punt this season are two different things tho. it looks like because of these external issues and also poor play that they are more likely than not to miss the playoffs. if they’re not going to make the playoffs, i’d much rather they finish bottom 8 as opposed to barely missing and get 16th overall. having a top prospect would do wonders for both the future and our contention window.
          22 nov. 2021 à 0 h 34
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          Quoting: MisstheWhalers
          What'd you do with Palmieri?.. Lol


          😂😂😂 my bad id have him on the 2nd line then.
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          22 nov. 2021 à 0 h 40
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          Quoting: bagelbob
          tear it down and punt this season are two different things tho. it looks like because of these external issues and also poor play that they are more likely than not to miss the playoffs. if they’re not going to make the playoffs, i’d much rather they finish bottom 8 as opposed to barely missing and get 16th overall. having a top prospect would do wonders for both the future and our contention window.


          Yeah I’m saying I disagree about tearing it down. Punting the season would be doing the same thing they’re doing now - giving chara top 4 minutes + keeping the 4th line together.

          I think the most important thing right now is to put the young guys like Dobson, Salo , and Wahlstrom in a position to succeed and we’ll see where they end up.
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          22 nov. 2021 à 0 h 42
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          Quoting: Db1899
          Yeah I’m saying I disagree about tearing it down. Punting the season would be doing the same thing they’re doing now - giving chara top 4 minutes + keeping the 4th line together.

          I think the most important thing right now is to put the young guys like Dobson, Salo , and Wahlstrom in a position to succeed and we’ll see where they end up.


          agree with that for sure. this can be a big development year as long as they let the young guys have time and make mistakes. if we come out of this season with salo and dobson looking like top 4 defensemen and with wahlstrom looking like a top six forward and maybe even with a guy like bellows carving out a spot as an NHL player, that would be a massive success.
          22 nov. 2021 à 0 h 46
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          Quoting: bagelbob
          agree with that for sure. this can be a big development year as long as they let the young guys have time and make mistakes. if we come out of this season with salo and dobson looking like top 4 defensemen and with wahlstrom looking like a top six forward and maybe even with a guy like bellows carving out a spot as an NHL player, that would be a massive success.


          Trotz needs to do what he did in 18-19 with pelech/Pulock + Toews/Mayfield. He had no other choice but to let them develop chemistry. That’s the approach Trotz should have with Salo-Dobson, Barzal + Wahlstrom. Wahlstrom has been their best winger analytically and there’s not even a close second
           
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