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Exploring Potential Partners For Muzzin

Créé par: Agent_Of_R9
Équipe: 2021-22 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 21 nov. 2021
Publié: 21 nov. 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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I think if the Leafs have proved anything this season, it's that they are going to need to find a better partner for Muzzin. Holl was great alongside him in 2019/20 but ever since has been pretty bad. Every time these two are on the ice the team gets hemmed into their own end because they don't have the skill level to keep up with the opposing team on the cycle. It's going to be costly to find an upgrade, but I feel if the Leafs want to make a deep run, they're going to need one.
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    Josh Manson (50% Retained Salary)
    ANA
      2022 1st

      *Don't really want to give up a 1st for a rental, but that seems to be the asking price for him.
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        Shayne Gostisbehere (50% Retained)
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          *He's not a shutdown defenceman but he has been really good this season.
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            Mike Reilly
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              *The Bruins don't really seem high on him, but he seems to play a similar style to TJ Brodie, could be a good player to have at a low cost
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                Jamie Oleksiak
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                  *He's not having an ideal season, the past 2 he was excellent. I think he is the ideal type of guy the Leafs want to target, a smooth-skating shutdown defenceman.
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                            Dante Fabbro
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                              Topi Niemela
                              2022 1st

                              *Fabbro has been real good this season
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                              22 nov. 2021 à 7 h 2
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                              I don't think we need a partner for Muzzin.

                              I think the real need is top line LW and most importantly a Muzzin backup. What if Muzzin goes down? Who plays in his place? For that reason I would lean towards bringing in Oleksiak from Seattle.
                              22 nov. 2021 à 7 h 29
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                              Topi niemela and dermitt for zub will probably get it done. Nice options though
                              22 nov. 2021 à 11 h 19
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                              I’m sorry but not one of these trades are fair.
                              BCAPP a aimé ceci.
                              22 nov. 2021 à 15 h 54
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                              Quoting: mondo
                              An above average second pairing RHD is not untouchable lmao.

                              Players like Saros and Tkachuk are untouchable. Fabbro and Zub just won't be traded unless a significant offer comes along.


                              There's much more at stake with Zub than just how good of a player he is. Right now, he is one of the most loved players in Sens history, plus their second best defenceman. Trading him would be like trading Tkachuk, i.e Melnyk committing PR suicide.
                              22 nov. 2021 à 20 h 6
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                              Quoting: JaredOfLondon
                              as usual, you have made a bunch of hilarious over payments for no reason and mostly for players who arnt even 2nd pairing guys


                              Well, why don't you explain the reason behind your confidence in the Muzzin-Holl pairing? Cuz it was good in 2019/20?
                              22 nov. 2021 à 20 h 7
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                              Quoting: majormoose007
                              tyler myers would be a great partner you should trade for him


                              Wouldn't mind him but don't see Vancouver retaining for 3 years.
                              22 nov. 2021 à 20 h 13
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                              Quoting: faulkmydzingel
                              I bet the leafs could get a guy who would likely have good chemistry with Muzzin. Maybe even bail Muzzin out on some bad pinches. Cheap contract. Big body. Wouldn’t even cost that much.


                              Justin Holl.


                              Quoting: palhal
                              Maybe just get a new partner for Holl.

                              Faulk, thanks for your kind words a few days ago when we were discussing my wife Carol.


                              I know Muzzin has been bad, but he looks good with Liljegren and Brodie. So IDK if the issue is him or Holl?
                              22 nov. 2021 à 20 h 27
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                              Quoting: Penguins_Legend_Sheary
                              Well, why don't you explain the reason behind your confidence in the Muzzin-Holl pairing? Cuz it was good in 2019/20?


                              because they were good a lot longer than that and replacing either of them with worse players who have been worse longer is a terrible idea?
                              22 nov. 2021 à 20 h 34
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                              Quoting: JaredOfLondon
                              because they were good a lot longer than that and replacing either of them with worse players who have been worse longer is a terrible idea?


                              Holl isn't good though. He was last amongst the 7 regular Leafs defencemen in xGF% the past 2 seasons.
                              23 nov. 2021 à 13 h 1
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                              If I am the leafs I am almost certainly not trading Niemela. Would have to be a stud coming back. No good/okay pieces. He looks incredible.
                               
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