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Exploring Potential Partners For Muzzin

Créé par: Agent_Of_R9
Date de création initiale: 21 nov. 2021
Publié: 21 nov. 2021
Équipe: 2021-22 Maple Leafs de Toronto
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I think if the Leafs have proved anything this season, it's that they are going to need to find a better partner for Muzzin. Holl was great alongside him in 2019/20 but ever since has been pretty bad. Every time these two are on the ice the team gets hemmed into their own end because they don't have the skill level to keep up with the opposing team on the cycle. It's going to be costly to find an upgrade, but I feel if the Leafs want to make a deep run, they're going to need one.
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TOR
    Josh Manson (50% Retained Salary)
    ANA
      2022 1st

      *Don't really want to give up a 1st for a rental, but that seems to be the asking price for him.
      2.
      TOR
        Shayne Gostisbehere (50% Retained)
        ARI
          2022 2nd

          *He's not a shutdown defenceman but he has been really good this season.
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          TOR
            Mike Reilly
            BOS
              2022 2nd

              *The Bruins don't really seem high on him, but he seems to play a similar style to TJ Brodie, could be a good player to have at a low cost
              4.
              TOR
                Jamie Oleksiak
                SEA
                  2022 1st

                  *He's not having an ideal season, the past 2 he was excellent. I think he is the ideal type of guy the Leafs want to target, a smooth-skating shutdown defenceman.
                  5.
                  TOR
                    Dylan DeMelo
                    WPG
                      Ilya Mikheyev
                      2022 2nd

                      *DeMelo has become expendable on Winnipeg's blueline with Schmidt and Pionk ahead of him, but he has played well in a top 4 role in the past and could be a cheap pickup.
                      6.
                      TOR
                        Artem Zub
                        OTT
                          Nick Robertson
                          Topi Niemela
                          2022 1st

                          *It's a bit too much to give for Zub, but he has proven himself to be a top pair guy and he is at an extremely salary-friendly deal.
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                          TOR
                            Dante Fabbro
                            NSH
                              Topi Niemela
                              2022 1st

                              *Fabbro has been real good this season
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                              • Phil Kessel: 1 200 000 $ (15%)
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                              Bunting, Michael
                              950 000 $
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                              UFA - 2
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                              Matthews, Auston
                              11 640 250 $
                              C
                              UFA - 3
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                              Nylander, William
                              6 962 366 $
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                              UFA - 3
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                              Kerfoot, Alexander
                              3 500 000 $
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                              UFA - 2
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                              Tavares, John
                              11 000 000 $
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                              NMC
                              UFA - 4
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                              Marner, Mitchell
                              10 903 000 $
                              AD
                              UFA - 4
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                              Engvall, Pierre
                              1 250 000 $
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                              RFA - 1
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                              Kämpf, David
                              1 500 000 $
                              C, AD
                              UFA - 2
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                              Kase, Ondrej
                              1 250 000 $
                              AD
                              RFA - 1
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                              Semyonov, Kirill
                              825 000 $
                              C
                              UFA - 1
                              TOR
                              Spezza, Jason
                              750 000 $
                              C, AD
                              UFA - 1
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                              Simmonds, Wayne
                              900 000 $
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                              NTC
                              UFA - 2
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                              Ritchie, Nick
                              2 500 000 $
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                              UFA - 2
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                              Muzzin, Jake
                              5 625 000 $
                              DG
                              NTC
                              UFA - 3
                              TOR
                              Rielly, Morgan
                              5 000 000 $
                              DG
                              NMC
                              UFA - 1
                              TOR
                              Campbell, Jack
                              1 650 000 $
                              G
                              UFA - 1
                              TOR
                              Brodie, TJ
                              5 000 000 $
                              DD
                              NTC
                              UFA - 3
                              TOR
                              Holl, Justin
                              2 000 000 $
                              DD
                              NTC
                              UFA - 2
                              TOR
                              Woll, Joseph
                              750 000 $
                              G
                              RFA - 1
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                              Sandin, Rasmus
                              894 167 $
                              DG
                              RFA - 1
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                              Liljegren, Timothy
                              863 333 $
                              DD
                              RFA - 1
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                              Dermott, Travis
                              1 500 000 $
                              DG/DD
                              RFA - 2
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                              TOR
                              Mrázek, Petr
                              3 800 000 $
                              G
                              NTC
                              UFA - 3
                              TOR
                              Mikheyev, Ilya
                              1 645 000 $
                              AG, AD
                              UFA - 1

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                              21 nov. 2021 à 21 h 27
                              #1
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                              What are your thoughts on this issue?
                              21 nov. 2021 à 21 h 30
                              #2
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                              Quoting: Penguins_Legend_Sheary
                              What are your thoughts on this issue?


                              I think you're overpaying for all defensemen not named Dante Fabbro
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                              21 nov. 2021 à 21 h 32
                              #3
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                              Quoting: SevenLeg
                              I think you're overpaying for all defensemen not named Dante Fabbro


                              This.
                              21 nov. 2021 à 21 h 36
                              #4
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                              tyler myers would be a great partner you should trade for him
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                              21 nov. 2021 à 21 h 49
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                              as usual, you have made a bunch of hilarious over payments for no reason and mostly for players who arnt even 2nd pairing guys
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                              21 nov. 2021 à 21 h 50
                              #6
                              EichelOverrated
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                              I bet the leafs could get a guy who would likely have good chemistry with Muzzin. Maybe even bail Muzzin out on some bad pinches. Cheap contract. Big body. Wouldn’t even cost that much.


                              Justin Holl.
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                              21 nov. 2021 à 21 h 56
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                              Quoting: JaredOfLondon
                              as usual, you have made a bunch of hilarious over payments for no reason and mostly for players who arnt even 2nd pairing guys


                              I agree that there’s overpayment but most of these guys aren’t available so it would take an overpayment to acquire them. Really, Gost might be the only one that is likely to be moved
                              21 nov. 2021 à 22 h 1
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                              I don’t think Demelo had ever played in a top 4 role. He’s always been a guy who you’d think could slide up to be a #4 D but has never either taken that role or been given a chance.
                              21 nov. 2021 à 22 h 7
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                              Quoting: NYR1983
                              I agree that there’s overpayment but most of these guys aren’t available so it would take an overpayment to acquire them. Really, Gost might be the only one that is likely to be moved


                              and the leafs are one of the last teams that needs to over pay for anyone on this list. They're already a top 4-5 team in the league defensively and none of these guys are going to help that
                              21 nov. 2021 à 22 h 11
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                              Is Artem Zub really worth an A prospect and a 1st in a deep draft? Have I missed something?
                              21 nov. 2021 à 22 h 12
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                              Quoting: faulkmydzingel
                              I bet the leafs could get a guy who would likely have good chemistry with Muzzin. Maybe even bail Muzzin out on some bad pinches. Cheap contract. Big body. Wouldn’t even cost that much.


                              Justin Holl.


                              Maybe just get a new partner for Holl.

                              Faulk, thanks for your kind words a few days ago when we were discussing my wife Carol.
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                              21 nov. 2021 à 22 h 16
                              #12
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                              Quoting: palhal
                              Maybe just get a new partner for Holl.

                              Faulk, thanks for your kind words a few days ago when we were discussing my wife Carol.


                              You’re welcome @palhal. The game of hockey connects us all. But we can’t let the rest of the guys on here know that I do in fact have a soul.
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                              21 nov. 2021 à 22 h 16
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                              gonna be liljegren next season
                              21 nov. 2021 à 22 h 17
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                              Modifié 21 nov. 2021 à 22 h 28
                              Fun fact back in 2019 Toronto almost did get someone who would be the perfect partner for Muzzin.

                              Nick Jensen but you know who stopped that trade...Mike ****ing Babcock

                              He literally said you get him "IM BENCHING DERMOTT!!!"

                              As for the list yeah dont think most will happen

                              Still surprised Dubas never attempted to try and convince Artem Zub to come over. Weird considering he has had talks with other big KHL names.
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                              21 nov. 2021 à 22 h 18
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                              Quoting: mondo
                              gonna be liljegren next season


                              Or Niemela if he continues his dominance of Liiga and has a solid camp
                              21 nov. 2021 à 22 h 19
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                              Quoting: faulkmydzingel
                              You’re welcome palhal. The game of hockey connects us all. But we can’t let the rest of the guys on here know that I do in fact have a soul.


                              Gee, have you been told on this site for not having a soul? Thought that was only me.
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                              21 nov. 2021 à 22 h 20
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                              Quoting: aadoyle
                              Or Niemela if he continues his dominance of Liiga and has a solid camp


                              Niemela needs a good number of games in the AHL before there's any talk of him being on an NHL roster. Liljegren is more preferable for a stab at top four minutes.
                              21 nov. 2021 à 22 h 29
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                              Quoting: JaredOfLondon
                              and the leafs are one of the last teams that needs to over pay for anyone on this list. They're already a top 4-5 team in the league defensively and none of these guys are going to help that


                              No need for attitude. Never said they need to make these moves. Just that in order to acquire any of them it will take an overpayment which is fact.
                              21 nov. 2021 à 22 h 36
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                              Fabbro is pretty much an untouchable in Nashville
                              21 nov. 2021 à 22 h 52
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                              Zub is untouchable. Period.
                              21 nov. 2021 à 22 h 56
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                              Quoting: IconicHawk
                              Fabbro is pretty much an untouchable in Nashville


                              Quoting: sens65
                              Zub is untouchable. Period.


                              An above average second pairing RHD is not untouchable lmao.

                              Players like Saros and Tkachuk are untouchable. Fabbro and Zub just won't be traded unless a significant offer comes along.
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                              21 nov. 2021 à 23 h 27
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                              PK Subban!
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                              Quoting: mondo
                              An above average second pairing RHD is not untouchable lmao.

                              Players like Saros and Tkachuk are untouchable. Fabbro and Zub just won't be traded unless a significant offer comes along.


                              Yea fabbro isn’t untouchable but Nashville has no reason to trade him unless an offer comes and sweep poile off his feet. This isn’t it.
                              22 nov. 2021 à 6 h 6
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                              Quoting: Penguins_Legend_Sheary
                              What are your thoughts on this issue?


                              Stop tagging me in all your posts.
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                              22 nov. 2021 à 6 h 20
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                              Quoting: aadoyle
                              Fun fact back in 2019 Toronto almost did get someone who would be the perfect partner for Muzzin.

                              Nick Jensen but you know who stopped that trade...Mike ****ing Babcock

                              He literally said you get him "IM BENCHING DERMOTT!!!"

                              As for the list yeah dont think most will happen

                              Still surprised Dubas never attempted to try and convince Artem Zub to come over. Weird considering he has had talks with other big KHL names.

                              Thank god.
                               
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