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why does everybody call him Chariot like cmon its Chiarot get it right

Créé par: Roysboy72
Date de création initiale: 19 nov. 2021
Publié: 19 nov. 2021
Équipe: 2021-22 Red Wings de Detroit
Explications
Also realistic Chiarot trade eat it

(real value is probably more of a third and a low level prospect but I don't care)
Transactions
1.
DET
  1. Chiarot, Ben
MTL
  1. Grewe, Albin [Liste de réserve]
  2. 2022 4e round pick (VGK)
Rachats de contrats
  • Frans Nielsen: 4 250 000 $
  • Justin Abdelkader: 2 305 556 $
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
  • Richard Pánik: 1 375 000 $ (50%)
ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
2022
DET
DET
WSH
DET
DET
COL
DET
DET
2023
DET
DET
DET
DET
DET
DET
DET
2024
DET
DET
DET
DET
DET
DET
DET
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2381 500 000 $73 429 723 $0 $4 518 750 $8 070 277 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
DET
Bertuzzi, Tyler
4 750 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
DET
Larkin, Dylan
6 100 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 2
DET
Raymond, Lucas
925 000 $
AD, AG
RFA - 3
DET
Fabbri, Robby
2 950 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 1
DET
Suter, Pius
3 250 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 2
DET
Zadina, Filip
894 167 $
AD, AG
RFA - 1
DET
Erne, Adam
2 100 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
DET
Rasmussen, Michael
1 460 000 $
AG, C, AD
RFA - 3
DET
Namestnikov, Vladislav
2 000 000 $
AD, AG, C
UFA - 1
DET
Smith, Givani
750 000 $
AG
RFA - 2
DET
Veleno, Joseph
894 167 $
C
RFA - 2
DET
Gagner, Sam
850 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
DET
Leddy, Nick
5 500 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
DET
Seider, Moritz
863 333 $
DD
RFA - 3
DET
Greiss, Thomas
3 600 000 $
G
UFA - 1
MTL
Chiarot, Ben
3 500 000 $
DG/DD
NTC
UFA - 1
DET
Hronek, Filip
4 400 000 $
DD
RFA - 3
DET
Nedeljkovic, Alex
3 000 000 $
G
UFA - 2
DET
Staal, Marc
2 000 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 1
DET
Lindström, Gustav
850 000 $
DD
RFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
DET
DeKeyser, Danny
5 000 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 1
DET
Vrána, Jakub
5 250 000 $
AG
UFA - 3
DET
Oesterle, Jordan
1 350 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 2
DET
Stecher, Troy
1 700 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
DET
Rowney, Carter
825 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
DET
Stephens, Mitchell
737 500 $
C
RFA - 1

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19 nov. 2021 à 16 h 39
#26
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Rejoint: juill. 2021
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Quoting: ColonelX
If these guys were all such overpayment as rentals ... Why are their contracts adding up to 12.5M$ on multiyear deals? I guess they all got overpaid again and they'll all be incredibly bad contract OR they're just good and GMs know values of picks more than us?

The fact that they’re getting paid $12.5 million combined doesn’t mean anything lol. The Coleman and Goodrow contracts were definitely not liked by fans when they were signed only a few months ago. Savard’s had a better reception, but it still doesn’t change the fact that these aren’t huge contracts in the first place. While Coleman received a pretty large cap hit, the other two are being paid like the complimentary players they are. The thing is, this doesn’t matter! It’s about the trades, not their current contracts.

I’ll admit that saying Brisebois “overpaid” to get those three players is a bit strong of a word choice. He paid a little more than he should have, but he wanted to make sure he got his guys. Based on the team’s standing, his picks are already devalued, and it puts him at a bit of a disadvantage when trading draft picks compared to most other teams.

Comparing this to Chiarot, the man of the hour, I can’t see why these trades make a good case for him to be valued at a first rounder. With each trade, something other than the player themselves pushed the value above a standard 2nd rounder. Coleman and Goodrow were both on bargain contracts with an extra year on them. Savard was double retained and one of the only options on the market for a RHD, meaning the Jackets had leverage. What does Chiarot have? His contract is… fine, I guess. Probably a bit more than I’d value him at, but it’s no biggie. He’s an expiring UFA, so no extra years there that could drive up the value. The market looks pretty good this year, plenty of good LD that could potentially hit the market. I can’t see any reason why he should get a first rounder, at least in comparison to these trades.
19 nov. 2021 à 19 h 14
#27
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Quoting: csick
Chariot in French means carriage in English


Chariot
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20 nov. 2021 à 1 h 59
#28
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Quoting: AustonMatthews3443
He's going to get a first with retention.


People always balk when I propose Leddy for a 1st
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20 nov. 2021 à 5 h 46
#29
Banni
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Quoting: Bannedforlife
People always balk when I propose Leddy for a 1st


missing intangibles, grit, pugnacity, and truculence. If you make a trade offer you should take into account the market not just your own perception of value in said market
20 nov. 2021 à 10 h 49
#30
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Quoting: OlegP
missing intangibles, grit, pugnacity, and truculence. If you make a trade offer you should take into account the market not just your own perception of value in said market


Truculence makes Chiarot worth a 1st but not Leddy with a career .43 ppg. Got it
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27 nov. 2021 à 13 h 11
#31
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Quoting: Bannedforlife
Truculence makes Chiarot worth a 1st but not Leddy with a career .43 ppg. Got it


It's called sarcasm. Got it?
 
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