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why does everybody call him Chariot like cmon its Chiarot get it right

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Date de création initiale: 19 nov. 2021
Publié: 19 nov. 2021
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Also realistic Chiarot trade eat it

(real value is probably more of a third and a low level prospect but I don't care)
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19 nov. 2021 à 12 h 17
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It’s annoying at this point
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He will get far more than a third and a low prospect
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19 nov. 2021 à 12 h 17
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Chariot in French means carriage in English
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19 nov. 2021 à 12 h 19
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He's going to get a first with retention.
19 nov. 2021 à 12 h 19
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Chiarots of Fire.
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19 nov. 2021 à 12 h 24
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He's going to get a first with retention.


That would be such a dumb move from any team doing that unless they’re almost a shoe in for the cup
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19 nov. 2021 à 12 h 25
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Worst he gets is what Dillion got, a 2 and a 3
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19 nov. 2021 à 12 h 28
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Quoting: Salzy
Worst he gets is what Dillion got, a 2 and a 3


Dillon has term so maybe a second and something else.

It has become obvious in the games vs Winnipeg that the Oilers very much need a D like him.
19 nov. 2021 à 12 h 29
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That would be such a dumb move from any team doing that unless they’re almost a shoe in for the cup


I mean Tampa gave it up for Savard who has played similarly to Chiarot over the past 3 years. I'm not saying I agree with it, but it happens every deadline.
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19 nov. 2021 à 12 h 29
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He will get far more than a third and a low prospect

Quoting: AustonMatthews3443
He's going to get a first with retention.

I'm not very high on Chiarot's value, and while I can see him getting a first rounder back, that's only after seeing Savard get one last trade deadline. I don't think he's actually worth anything more than a second rounder at best, but that's just my opinion. He'll somehow still get traded for a first rounder at the deadline anyway by a GM going too far though, so I can agree with that.
19 nov. 2021 à 12 h 30
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Even Friedman states he'll fetch Montreal a 1st round pick, his name being butchered is annoying but low ball offers are much more frustrating.

Exhibit A: Players who fetched first round picks at trade deadline lately; Savard, Foligno, Coleman, Goodrow.
Exhibit B: He's better than them, he'll get a first.
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Quoting: Salzy
Worst he gets is what Dillion got, a 2 and a 3


Dillon deal is a good comp. Potential for a flooded LD market is why I'd be pretty doubtful on a 1st, but a 2nd+3rd (or so/so prospect) makes sense.
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19 nov. 2021 à 12 h 33
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Quoting: AustonMatthews3443
I mean Tampa gave it up for Savard who has played similarly to Chiarot over the past 3 years. I'm not saying I agree with it, but it happens every deadline.


I’m not sure any other team beside Tampa offered a 1st for Savard, Goodrow and Coleman. Don’t u think had other teams offered that, the teams trading those players would choose to trade them to those other teams instead of Tampa? Since those 1st are more likely to be higher than Tampa’s 1st?
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19 nov. 2021 à 12 h 33
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I'm not very high on Chiarot's value, and while I can see him getting a first rounder back, that's only after seeing Savard get one last trade deadline. I don't think he's actually worth anything more than a second rounder at best, but that's just my opinion. He'll somehow still get traded for a first rounder at the deadline anyway by a GM going too far though, so I can agree with that.


Like I get what you're saying but people seem to forget Savard, Foligno, Goodrow, Coleman all fetched firsts and people also hate on Chiarot too much, he doesn't suck he's a solid top 4 option, he's just used way too much.
19 nov. 2021 à 12 h 34
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I’m not sure any other team beside Tampa offered a 1st for Savard, Goodrow and Coleman. Don’t u think had other teams offered that, the teams trading those players would choose to trade them to those other teams instead of Tampa? Since those 1st are more likely to be higher than Tampa’s 1st?


Well yes it would have to be a serious contender no fringe playoff team is giving up a first for a pure rental.
19 nov. 2021 à 12 h 36
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Like I get what you're saying but people seem to forget Savard, Foligno, Goodrow, Coleman all fetched firsts and people also hate on Chiarot too much, he doesn't suck he's a solid top 4 option, he's just used way too much.

I know they all fetched firsts but three of those four were Brisebois overpaying to make sure he got his guy. Chiarot is a fine player, that's for sure, but he's not a prime rental and he shouldn't get a prime rental return.
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Well yes it would have to be a serious contender no fringe playoff team is giving up a first for a pure rental.


If I’m a contender I’d rather trade my first ++ for JT Miller than trade just a 1st for Chiarot
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19 nov. 2021 à 12 h 40
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It’s annoying at this point


Dadanov and jared Cowan annoyed the hell out of me
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19 nov. 2021 à 12 h 44
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If I’m a contender I’d rather trade my first ++ for JT Miller than trade just a 1st for Chiarot


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I know they all fetched firsts but three of those four were Brisebois overpaying to make sure he got his guy. Chiarot is a fine player, that's for sure, but he's not a prime rental and he shouldn't get a prime rental return.


There's no point of arguing further, I myself wouldn't want the leafs to give up a 1st for him, like I get what you are saying you guys could be right about the Tampa thing. I don't think he necessarily deserves it so much as I just think it will happen based off what we've seen at previous deadlines.
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19 nov. 2021 à 14 h 6
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Like I get what you're saying but people seem to forget Savard, Foligno, Goodrow, Coleman all fetched firsts and people also hate on Chiarot too much, he doesn't suck he's a solid top 4 option, he's just used way too much.


As a top4, he's used too much indeed
19 nov. 2021 à 14 h 9
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There will be other not so expensive options for Detroit.
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19 nov. 2021 à 14 h 20
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I’m not sure any other team beside Tampa offered a 1st for Savard, Goodrow and Coleman. Don’t u think had other teams offered that, the teams trading those players would choose to trade them to those other teams instead of Tampa? Since those 1st are more likely to be higher than Tampa’s 1st?

Toronto gave a boatload for a washed up Foligno, there's your example. TDL is a crazy time of the year and GMs are moving against the clock, someone will pay every time.
19 nov. 2021 à 14 h 23
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I know they all fetched firsts but three of those four were Brisebois overpaying to make sure he got his guy. Chiarot is a fine player, that's for sure, but he's not a prime rental and he shouldn't get a prime rental return.

If these guys were all such overpayment as rentals ... Why are their contracts adding up to 12.5M$ on multiyear deals? I guess they all got overpaid again and they'll all be incredibly bad contract OR they're just good and GMs know values of picks more than us?
19 nov. 2021 à 15 h 46
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As a top4, he's used too much indeed


Nah Montreal plays him like 23+ minutes a night, he’s a fine #4 guy play him 18-20 minutes a game.
19 nov. 2021 à 15 h 59
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Nah Montreal plays him like 23+ minutes a night, he’s a fine #4 guy play him 18-20 minutes a game.


On a mediocre team, yes.
 
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