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We Need To Rebuild Properly

Créé par: MingusClark6
Équipe: 2022-23 Canucks de Vancouver
Date de création initiale: 18 nov. 2021
Publié: 18 nov. 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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LISTE DE RÉSERVEANSCAP HIT
3925 000 $
3825 000 $
RFAANSCAP HIT
67 800 000 $
11 000 000 $
21 000 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
11 200 000 $
11 000 000 $
21 700 000 $
Transactions
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VAN
  1. Edvinsson, Simon [Liste de réserve]
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (DET)
2.
VAN
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (BOS)
BOS
  1. Ekman-Larsson, Oliver (1 500 000 $ retained)
3.
VAN
  1. Amirov, Rodion
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (TOR)
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (TOR)
  4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (TOR)
TOR
  1. Miller, J.T.
Détails additionnels:
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VAN
  1. van Riemsdyk, James
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (PHI)
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (PHI)
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2282 500 000 $65 947 500 $1 250 000 $1 150 000 $16 552 500 $

Formation

Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
4 125 000 $4 125 000 $
C
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
7 800 000 $7 800 000 $
AD
UFA - 3
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
891 667 $891 667 $ (Bonis de performance300 000 $$300K)
AG, AD
RFA - 1
1 200 000 $1 200 000 $
C
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
855 833 $855 833 $
AD
RFA - 4
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
925 000 $925 000 $
AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
2 650 000 $2 650 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AD, AG
RFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
AG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
750 000 $750 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
AD, AG
UFA
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
7 850 000 $7 850 000 $
DG
UFA - 5
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
G
UFA - 4
1 700 000 $1 700 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
G
RFA - 1
925 000 $925 000 $
DG
RFA - 4
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
DG
RFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
825 000 $825 000 $
DG
RFA
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
750 000 $750 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
762 500 $762 500 $
DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
850 000 $850 000 $
DD
UFA - 1

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18 nov. 2021 à 1 h 44
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Leafs won't pay that. He's a good player, and I'm sure another team will pay that price, but the Leafs have a ton of guys they need to worry about like Campbell and Kase. Not sure if they'll have the cap space, let alone the space to squeeze in JT Miller at like 8M
18 nov. 2021 à 1 h 45
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You don't need to rebuild
18 nov. 2021 à 1 h 52
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You can keep Pettersson for that price.
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18 nov. 2021 à 1 h 53
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If we're doing that wings deal, i'd just do seider for petey
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18 nov. 2021 à 2 h 17
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Why trade EP if your rebuilding? He's a number 1 center that just turn 22 five days ago.
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18 nov. 2021 à 2 h 33
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i think it would be pretty hard for bruins to say no to that
18 nov. 2021 à 2 h 59
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Quoting: cooliny
If we're doing that wings deal, i'd just do seider for petey


But Detroit won't do that.
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18 nov. 2021 à 6 h 55
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Vancouver just needs to fire Benning and Green, you have a decent lineup,
18 nov. 2021 à 7 h 28
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If you add 2 firsts with OEL, then maybe the Bruins should send back a 3rd.

Quoting: SalamiCheese
Vancouver just needs to fire Benning and Green, you have a decent lineup,


Top6 and goaltending, yes. Bottom-6 is mediocre and the defense is bad.
18 nov. 2021 à 8 h 10
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Top6 and goaltending, yes. Bottom-6 is mediocre and the defense is bad.


Bottom 6 is not so difficult to fix, especially with a new coach everything can easily change. The only thing they need is a decent top 4 RD that can play defensively, the rest of the squad looks good.
18 nov. 2021 à 8 h 12
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If you're rebuilding, I wouldn't trade your franchise centre in Elias Pettersson, or a very good young player in Garland.
18 nov. 2021 à 9 h 44
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Quoting: Lancebmx
You can keep Pettersson for that price.


I don’t think you know who EP is lol
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18 nov. 2021 à 9 h 44
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So u wanna rebuild but Ur gonna trade ur young franchise forward ?
18 nov. 2021 à 10 h 29
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Quoting: bhavikp27
If you add 2 firsts with OEL, then maybe the Bruins should send back a 3rd.



Top6 and goaltending, yes. Bottom-6 is mediocre and the defense is bad.


Tbh bottom 6 isn't that bad.

Podkolzin-Dickinson-Garland is a pretty good third line.

Motte-whoever-Highmore is a decent 4th too. Really it's our top 6 aside from Hoglander and Miller that has sucked b
18 nov. 2021 à 10 h 30
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Quoting: Oilers4Days
If you're rebuilding, I wouldn't trade your franchise centre in Elias Pettersson, or a very good young player in Garland.


Quoting: Oodz
So u wanna rebuild but Ur gonna trade ur young franchise forward ?


Quoting: Reason
Why trade EP if your rebuilding? He's a number 1 center that just turn 22 five days ago.


He sure doesn't look like a number 1, let alone franchise center these days.
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18 nov. 2021 à 10 h 31
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Quoting: ragger_lord
He sure doesn't look like a number 1, let alone franchise center these days.


Ur gonna let a 15 game sample decide his fate? What about the last 3 years.
18 nov. 2021 à 10 h 40
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Quoting: Oodz
Ur gonna let a 15 game sample decide his fate? What about the last 3 years.


Presumably these are deadline or offseason trades so 2/3 or a full season of this.

Regardless, Petey wasn't very good at driving play last year then spent the rest of the year injured.

The worrisome part about his play this year is he just looks straight up lost. He gets the puck then has no idea what to do with it. Usually either does a couple of dangles or throws it off to Miller.

I would be sort of ok if he was at least playing well defensively and back checking hard but he's not. He looks totally disengaged out there.

Also, at 7+ mil after complaining about wanting to be on a contender, you lose a lot of good faith when your slumping compared to being on an ELC.
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18 nov. 2021 à 13 h 39
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Quoting: Oodz
I don’t think you know who EP is lol


I know exactly who EP is and that's why I say thanks but no thanks. I would rather take that pick and draft a centre rather than give up a potential top pairing defenceman and a pick for a player than might be better. I haven't liked his play for the last two years personally.
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18 nov. 2021 à 18 h 6
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Quoting: ragger_lord
Presumably these are deadline or offseason trades so 2/3 or a full season of this.

Regardless, Petey wasn't very good at driving play last year then spent the rest of the year injured.

The worrisome part about his play this year is he just looks straight up lost. He gets the puck then has no idea what to do with it. Usually either does a couple of dangles or throws it off to Miller.

I would be sort of ok if he was at least playing well defensively and back checking hard but he's not. He looks totally disengaged out there.

Also, at 7+ mil after complaining about wanting to be on a contender, you lose a lot of good faith when your slumping compared to being on an ELC.


Your concerned that “he looks lost”, which is the part of his game im least worried about, players don’t one day just forget how to play hockey. He missed training camp and a large potion of last season, add to that he is coming off an injury, who knows maybe he’s lacking confidence at the moment or overthinking things, but that will turn around.
There would be a lot of bargains out there if NHL teams traded there franchise players after poor 20 game stretches.
 
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