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3 trades that would help Oilers to contend with the best in the west

Créé par: mm1010
Équipe: 2021-22 Oilers d'Edmonton
Date de création initiale: 17 nov. 2021
Publié: 17 nov. 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
CRÉÉANSCAP HIT
Carter, Jeff
12 620 000 $
Transactions
1.
EDM
  1. Fleury, Marc-André (3 500 000 $ retained)
Détails additionnels:
figures crossed he rebound to even half where he was last year. if not its all onsmith which it would have been with mikko anyways.
CHI
  1. Koskinen, Mikko
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (EDM)
Détails additionnels:
mikko has been good proved he can make big timely saves but also shown he can let in a week one from the outside almost every game as well.
2.
EDM
  1. Chiarot, Ben (1 750 000 $ retained)
MTL
  1. Kemp, Philip
  2. Russell, Kris
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (EDM)
3.
EDM
    for carter 50% retained
    PIT
    1. Lagesson, William
    2. Safin, Ostap
    3. Turris, Kyle
    4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (EDM)
    Rachats de contrats
    Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
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    2024
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    Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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    5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
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    UFA - 7
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    12 500 000 $12 500 000 $
    C
    UFA - 5
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    1 175 000 $1 175 000 $
    AD
    UFA - 1
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    5 125 000 $5 125 000 $
    AG, C
    NMC
    UFA - 8
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    8 500 000 $8 500 000 $
    C, AG
    UFA - 4
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    1 175 000 $1 175 000 $
    AD
    RFA - 1
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    AG, AD
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    Carter, Jeff
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    3 200 000 $3 200 000 $
    AD
    UFA - 3
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    850 000 $850 000 $
    AG, C, AD
    UFA - 2
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    1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
    C, AD
    UFA - 2
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    AD, C
    UFA - 1
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    750 000 $750 000 $
    AG, AD
    UFA - 1
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    750 000 $750 000 $
    AD, AG
    UFA - 1
    Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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    5 600 000 $5 600 000 $
    DG
    UFA - 1
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    863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
    DD
    RFA - 2
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    M-NTC
    UFA - 1
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    DG/DD
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    DD
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    UFA - 2
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    NMC
    UFA - 2
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    3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
    DD
    UFA - 4
    Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
    925 000 $925 000 $
    DG/DD
    UFA - 2
    Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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    4 167 000 $4 167 000 $
    DG
    M-NTC
    UFA - 2
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    1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
    AD, AG
    UFA - 1
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    785 000 $785 000 $
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    UFA - 1
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    17 nov. 2021 à 15 h 46
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    Big no from EDM on the PIT trade!!
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    17 nov. 2021 à 15 h 47
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    You're asking the Hawks to retain on Flowers plus take on Koskinen's entire cap hit so the oilers can make other TDL moves to not exceed the cap space which to me is worth more then a late 2nd round pick. If you were asking for Flowers straight up with retention then I get the late 2nd pick, but asking the Hawks to also take on Koskinen's cap hit is going to push the Oilers into their 1st round pick versus 2nd.
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    17 nov. 2021 à 15 h 48
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    Quoting: Jeuck75
    Big no from EDM on the PIT trade!!


    not sure why edmonton needs a 3c Carter check alot of boxes size, scoring ability, experience some thing the bottom six still lacks
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    17 nov. 2021 à 15 h 50
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    I think the Habs pass on this one
    17 nov. 2021 à 15 h 50
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    Quoting: ChiHawk
    You're asking the Hawks to retain on Flowers plus take on Koskinen's entire cap hit so the oilers can make other TDL moves to not exceed the cap space which to me is worth more then a late 2nd round pick. If you were asking for Flowers straight up with retention then I get the late 2nd pick, but asking the Hawks to also take on Koskinen's cap hit is going to push the Oilers into their 1st round pick versus 2nd.


    dont see that happening. not many other contending teams are looking for a goalie... flower leaves for nothing in the summer. your taking an asset you got for free who has been terrible so far and still getting a 2nd rounder. CHI definitely considers this.
    17 nov. 2021 à 15 h 51
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    Quoting: Marshallchapman9
    I think the Habs pass on this one


    you can add another pick or prospect to it to even it out I see it as a fit for both teams.
    17 nov. 2021 à 15 h 53
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    you can add another pick or prospect to it to even it out I see it as a fit for both teams.


    seeing as Edmonton's pick will be late I think for half retention and taking Russel you can even drop Kemp and the second and make it a first
    17 nov. 2021 à 15 h 54
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    not sure why edmonton needs a 3c Carter check alot of boxes size, scoring ability, experience some thing the bottom six still lacks


    But not for all that. Maybe like a 2nd, Lagesson and Turris, lol
    17 nov. 2021 à 15 h 55
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    Quoting: Marshallchapman9
    seeing as Edmonton's pick will be late I think for half retention and taking Russel you can even drop Kemp and the second and make it a first


    your not getting a first both are expiring deals so russell really doesnt play into it that much. other than shuffling money and giving MTL a player they can finish the season with.
    2nd is the best your going to get and yes will be a mid to late 2nd from any team looking for him as they will all be playoff teams... so that point is kinda pointless.
    17 nov. 2021 à 15 h 57
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    dont see that happening. not many other contending teams are looking for a goalie... flower leaves for nothing in the summer. your taking an asset you got for free who has been terrible so far and still getting a 2nd rounder. CHI definitely considers this.


    Every year there are contending teams looking for a goalie and especially a 3 time cup winner, reigning Vezina trophy winner, and battle tested in the playoffs. There will be a market for him hands down and it won't just be the Oilers. It's also up to Flowers who he waives for.

    Yes, Flowers started off bad but has returned to form the last 2 games...if that sticks and history has shown it can, it's a 1st all day long
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    17 nov. 2021 à 15 h 57
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    But not for all that. Maybe like a 2nd, Lagesson and Turris, lol


    Safin isnt a big loss either he is behind Holloway lavoie and Bourgault any ways.
    you might be able to make it a second but I think it would take a first.
    Edmonton has to start taking chance now to go for it a 1st rounder wont have an impact for 2-4 years from now.
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    17 nov. 2021 à 15 h 58
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    your not getting a first both are expiring deals so russell really doesnt play into it that much. other than shuffling money and giving MTL a player they can finish the season with.
    2nd is the best your going to get and yes will be a mid to late 2nd from any team looking for him as they will all be playoff teams... so that point is kinda pointless.


    Habs pass then.
    17 nov. 2021 à 15 h 59
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    Every year there are contending teams looking for a goalie and especially a 3 time cup winner, reigning Vezina trophy winner, and battle tested in the playoffs. There will be a market for him hands down and it won't just be the Oilers. It's also up to Flowers who he waives for.

    Yes, Flowers started off bad but has returned to form the last 2 games...if that sticks and history has shown it can, it's a 1st all day long


    then you would have thought those same team would have done that with vegas as well but yet they gave him to you for nothing. The fact Flower gets to choose where he goes diminishes your chance at a 1st
    17 nov. 2021 à 16 h 0
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    Habs pass then.


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    17 nov. 2021 à 16 h 5
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    then you would have thought those same team would have done that with vegas as well but yet they gave him to you for nothing. The fact Flower gets to choose where he goes diminishes your chance at a 1st


    And those teams and fans might have thought you they had a #1 goalie only by the TDL they realized that #1 goalie isn't a guy who's going to win a cup. Welcome to the reason trades take place at the TDL so your comment isn't really a worth point of view
    17 nov. 2021 à 16 h 9
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    Quoting: ChiHawk
    You're asking the Hawks to retain on Flowers plus take on Koskinen's entire cap hit so the oilers can make other TDL moves to not exceed the cap space which to me is worth more then a late 2nd round pick. If you were asking for Flowers straight up with retention then I get the late 2nd pick, but asking the Hawks to also take on Koskinen's cap hit is going to push the Oilers into their 1st round pick versus 2nd.


    Koskinen is better than Fleury, Chicago should be adding. Deal with it.
    17 nov. 2021 à 16 h 11
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    not sure why edmonton needs a 3c Carter check alot of boxes size, scoring ability, experience some thing the bottom six still lacks


    Carter checks a lot of boxes: old, slow, gets owned a lot, ready to retire, etc.

    A 1st!! tears of joy tears of joy tears of joy tears of joy
    17 nov. 2021 à 16 h 14
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    Carter checks a lot of boxes: old, slow, gets owned a lot, ready to retire, etc.

    A 1st!! tears of joy tears of joy tears of joy tears of joy

    -18.62 GF% Rel!! And you gave up A FIRST!!! tears of joy tears of joy tears of joy tears of joy
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    17 nov. 2021 à 16 h 29
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    Modifié 17 nov. 2021 à 16 h 36
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    Koskinen is better than Fleury, Chicago should be adding. Deal with it.


    LMAO don't need to deal with it as I'm not living in your fantasy world laugh
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    17 nov. 2021 à 16 h 43
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    LMAO don't need to deal with it as I'm not living in your fantasy world laugh

    The numbers prove you wrong. tears of joy
    17 nov. 2021 à 17 h 8
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    Quoting: CD282
    Carter checks a lot of boxes: old, slow, gets owned a lot, ready to retire, etc.

    A 1st!! tears of joy tears of joy tears of joy tears of joy


    as to what we have now in Ryan or mcloed as options at 3C Who cant hit cant score cant keep the puck out of their net sure they can skate but they dont accomplish much....
    Yes hes a rental and could retire like many players who are aquired at the deadline for 1st. with salary retention... hey we gave 2 2nd for AA Carter is much better than that...
    17 nov. 2021 à 17 h 26
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    as to what we have now in Ryan or mcloed as options at 3C Who cant hit cant score cant keep the puck out of their net sure they can skate but they dont accomplish much....
    Yes hes a rental and could retire like many players who are aquired at the deadline for 1st. with salary retention... hey we gave 2 2nd for AA Carter is much better than that...

    Carter is done. The stats I posted should make that obvious. He's on ice for 4.30 GA/60 despite heavy offensive zone starts. That's exactly the opposite of what Edmonton needs. McLeod is on ice for just 2.30 GA/60.

    He's not worth a 3rd let alone a 1st.
    17 nov. 2021 à 17 h 33
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    Koskinen is better than Fleury, Chicago should be adding. Deal with it.


    This is quite possibly the dumbest comment I've ever seen on this site. Congrats.
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    17 nov. 2021 à 17 h 38
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    This is quite possibly the dumbest comment I've ever seen on this site. Congrats.


    Maybe you should watch something other than Sesame Street reruns, bud.
    17 nov. 2021 à 20 h 39
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    The numbers prove you wrong. tears of joy


    LMAO you're right, Koskinen is hands down a better goalie! Why would I ever think the guy with 893 games played in his career, 3 time cup champion and Vezina trophy winner last year would be better then then a guy a few years younger and 134 career games and no trophies...oh silly me! laugh
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