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We need more star power

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Équipe: 2021-22 Capitals de Washington
Date de création initiale: 17 nov. 2021
Publié: 17 nov. 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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I don’t know what Kane would cost. Also I’m not sure about the trade of Larkin. Give me feedback
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WSH
  1. Kane, Patrick (5 250 000 $ retained)
CHI
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DET
  1. Lapierre, Hendrix
  2. Schultz, Justin
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (WSH)
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (WSH)
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WSH
  1. Choix de 6e ronde en 2022 (NJD)
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WSH
ARI
  1. Kempný, Michal
  2. Choix de 5e ronde en 2022 (WSH)
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LAK
  1. Eller, Lars
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2022 (WSH)
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2023
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2024
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2181 500 000 $62 786 261 $472 927 $132 500 $18 713 739 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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9 500 000 $9 500 000 $
AG
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 5
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3 900 000 $3 900 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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-2 625 000 $-2 625 000 $
AD
NMC
UFA - 2
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6 100 000 $6 100 000 $
C
UFA - 2
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9 200 000 $9 200 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 4
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5 166 667 $5 166 667 $
AD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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2 850 000 $2 850 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 3
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863 333 $863 333 $
AG, C
RFA - 3
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5 750 000 $5 750 000 $
AD
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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725 000 $725 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
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750 000 $750 000 $
C
UFA - 1
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1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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791 667 $791 667 $ (Bonis de performance132 500 $$132K)
DG/DD
RFA - 2
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8 000 000 $8 000 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 5
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2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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1 275 000 $1 275 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
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716 667 $716 667 $
G
UFA - 1
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900 000 $900 000 $
DG
RFA - 1
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950 000 $950 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
Équipe de réserve
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894 167 $894 167 $ (0 $$00 $$0) (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AD, C
RFA - 1

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17 nov. 2021 à 12 h 33
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Larkin is not available. It's not even about value, it's just illogical. He's untouchable.
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Larkin is not available. It's not even about value, it's just illogical. He's untouchable.


We just need a young all star
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17 nov. 2021 à 12 h 53
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why are you getting Kane for free half retained?
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why are you getting Kane for free half retained?


I don’t know the price of that. I need feedback. It was in the description
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17 nov. 2021 à 12 h 58
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Larkin isn't available, though the value is pretty decent (good job on including a high-end center prospect btw). Plus it might be a better idea to go for a true winger, because getting a center just to move him to the wing isn't the best for getting value, due to the extra cost of acquiring a center. And I think if you're trading for Kane you're getting enough extra star power up front, at that point it's time to direct attention to the defense.

I don't really know what Kane's value would be, but based on my gut feeling and a bit of scouting on previous proposals, I'd say his value is 2 1sts + a decent prospect, or a single 1st + one of McMichael/Lapierre + a couple extras (mid-round picks/middling prospects, for example). Add a roster player to help with the cap exchange, and that should be pretty close to fair value IMO.
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17 nov. 2021 à 13 h 0
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If you’re just looking for an offensive 2nd line LW, why not just target Miller, Fiala, Forsberg, McCann, etc. I know Larkin isn’t even avail, but why target someone that requires overpay?
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The caps do not 'NEED' more star power. You 'WANT' more star power.
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Larkin isn't available, though the value is pretty decent (good job on including a high-end center prospect btw). Plus it might be a better idea to go for a true winger, because getting a center just to move him to the wing isn't the best for getting value, due to the extra cost of acquiring a center. And I think if you're trading for Kane you're getting enough extra star power up front, at that point it's time to direct attention to the defense.

I don't really know what Kane's value would be, but based on my gut feeling and a bit of scouting on previous proposals, I'd say his value is 2 1sts + a decent prospect, or a single 1st + one of McMichael/Lapierre + a couple extras (mid-round picks/middling prospects, for example). Add a roster player to help with the cap exchange, and that should be pretty close to fair value IMO.


Thank you for the feedback
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Quoting: Garak
The caps do not 'NEED' more star power. You 'WANT' more star power.


We just need a speedy elite young player to wining the games in ot
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Quoting: drmantalban
If you’re just looking for an offensive 2nd line LW, why not just target Miller, Fiala, Forsberg, McCann, etc. I know Larkin isn’t even avail, but why target someone that requires overpay?


Good point
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Quoting: DeadWingsv2
Larkin is not available. It's not even about value, it's just illogical. He's untouchable.


Larkin is not untouchable lmao. you cant be throwing that term around loosely. Mcdavid and mackinnon id say are the only two untouchbles at this point
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Larkin is not untouchable lmao. you cant be throwing that term around loosely. Mcdavid and mackinnon id say are the only two untouchbles at this point


Is the value there then
17 nov. 2021 à 13 h 13
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This is a weird post. Its like saying we need more talent so give us mcdavid. Not that even bud
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Is the value there then


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Is the value there then


No but saying larkin is untouchable is just not an accurate statement
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Larkin is not untouchable lmao. you cant be throwing that term around loosely. Mcdavid and mackinnon id say are the only two untouchbles at this point

Yes he is lol lmao roflcopter flarp
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Larkin is not untouchable lmao. you cant be throwing that term around loosely. Mcdavid and mackinnon id say are the only two untouchbles at this point



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Yes he is lol lmao roflcopter flarp

You're missing the whole point - He's not available and teams wouldn't be, and shouldn't be, willing to pay the INSANE overpayment it would require for Detroit to part with their hometown, 25 yo captain. Obviously if Holland got hit in the head and offered McDavid straight up, no one would say no, the point is, that cost vs availability - he's untouchable.
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Larkin is not untouchable lmao. you cant be throwing that term around loosely. Mcdavid and mackinnon id say are the only two untouchbles at this point

Teams have untouchables, and for the Red Wings Dylan Larkin is one of them. McDavid and MacKinnon existing doesn't mean other players can't be "untouchables" lol. Larkin is Detroit's best center right now and for the foreseeable future, and we'd hate to trade away our young, homegrown captain that looks to be our only chance at a 1C. The fact that Larkin isn't a superstar doesn't mean he can't be an untouchable. Heck, even Gretzky was traded. Untouchables are about the value of a player to the team that holds their contract, and whether or not they're willing to part with that asset. Larkin is most certainly an untouchable for the Red Wings.
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Phil Kessel


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Nope


Young feller for these caps
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Young feller for these caps


Quoting: drmantalban
If you’re just looking for an offensive 2nd line LW, why not just target Miller, Fiala, Forsberg, McCann, etc. I know Larkin isn’t even avail, but why target someone that requires overpay?


Quoting: Roysboy72
Larkin isn't available, though the value is pretty decent (good job on including a high-end center prospect btw). Plus it might be a better idea to go for a true winger, because getting a center just to move him to the wing isn't the best for getting value, due to the extra cost of acquiring a center. And I think if you're trading for Kane you're getting enough extra star power up front, at that point it's time to direct attention to the defense.

I don't really know what Kane's value would be, but based on my gut feeling and a bit of scouting on previous proposals, I'd say his value is 2 1sts + a decent prospect, or a single 1st + one of McMichael/Lapierre + a couple extras (mid-round picks/middling prospects, for example). Add a roster player to help with the cap exchange, and that should be pretty close to fair value IMO.

Is Marner still available
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Vilardi costs significantly more than that.
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Vilardi costs significantly more than that.


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Is Marner still available

Leafs ACGMs are probably still taking offers for him, and even though they usually underestimate his value it'd be best not to lowball them.
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