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Klingberg and Holtby Rentals

Créé par: Hockyluv21
Équipe: 2021-22 Hurricanes de la Caroline
Date de création initiale: 16 nov. 2021
Publié: 16 nov. 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Transactions
CAR
  1. Holtby, Braden (1 000 000 $ retained)
  2. Klingberg, John (2 125 000 $ retained)
DAL
  1. Bokk, Dominik
  2. Cotton, David
  3. Kotkaniemi, Jesperi (3 000 000 $ retained)
  4. Mattheos, Stelio
  5. Suzuki, Ryan
  6. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (CAR)
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
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2022
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2023
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2024
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2381 500 000 $79 142 750 $0 $1 037 500 $2 357 250 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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7 750 000 $7 750 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 8
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8 460 250 $8 460 250 $
C
UFA - 3
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5 400 000 $5 400 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 3
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894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance500 000 $$500K)
AD
RFA - 3
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4 750 000 $4 750 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance537 500 $$538K)
AD
RFA - 1
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5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
C, AG
NMC
UFA - 2
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1 800 000 $1 800 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 3
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2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
AD
UFA - 2
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1 350 000 $1 350 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
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725 000 $725 000 $
C, AG, AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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5 300 000 $5 300 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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2 125 000 $2 125 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
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4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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4 025 000 $4 025 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
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2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
G
UFA - 2
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1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
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2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
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1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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800 000 $800 000 $
DG/DD, AG
UFA - 1
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4 050 000 $4 050 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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2 900 000 $2 900 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1

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16 nov. 2021 à 11 h 12
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I saw something that you can't trade an offersheeted player for a year
16 nov. 2021 à 11 h 14
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Quoting: Gmonwy
I saw something that you can't trade an offersheeted player for a year


Only if the offer sheet is matched. This is one where the Habs did not match and traded it for draft picks instead. This contract is free to trade to any team.
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16 nov. 2021 à 11 h 57
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I'd have a hard time saying no to that offer.
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16 nov. 2021 à 12 h 7
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Interesting that a 4th liner 1.25m Engvall gets dumped on by so many on this site, for his 16 points in his last two seasons of 58 games. But 6.1m KK seems to no criticism for his 23 points in 69 games.
16 nov. 2021 à 12 h 19
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Interesting that a 4th liner 1.25m Engvall gets dumped on by so many on this site, for his 16 points in his last two seasons of 58 games. But 6.1m KK seems to no criticism for his 23 points in 69 games.


Because dumping on Engvall is stupid. Again, the KK contract is similar to what Bill Guerin did with Goligoski this year. They had the cap space this year to overpay the two for a year to get them on board.
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16 nov. 2021 à 12 h 22
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Quoting: palhal
Interesting that a 4th liner 1.25m Engvall gets dumped on by so many on this site, for his 16 points in his last two seasons of 58 games. But 6.1m KK seems to no criticism for his 23 points in 69 games.


That's the difference between a 21 year old and a 25 year old.
16 nov. 2021 à 12 h 22
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Modifié 16 nov. 2021 à 12 h 34
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Because dumping on Engvall is stupid. Again, the KK contract is similar to what Bill Guerin did with Goligoski this year. They had the cap space this year to overpay the two for a year to get them on board.


I just wonder if 6.1m could have spend better, on a short term UFA rather than KK...and then save e the picks too.
16 nov. 2021 à 12 h 33
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I just wonder if 6.1m could have spend better, on a short term UFA rather than KK...and then safe the picks too.


I actually don't know. KK was clearly a long-term bet for Carolina and not a short-term one. They're betting that it's going to pay off later on.
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16 nov. 2021 à 12 h 35
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I actually don't know. KK was clearly a long-term bet for Carolina and not a short-term one. They're betting that it's going to pay off later on.


Yep that was the gamble. But his QO of 6.1m probably won't happen and he will be a UFA, though I suspect KK owes Carolina some loyalty for his bloated 6.1m deal.
16 nov. 2021 à 12 h 37
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Yep that was the gamble. But his QO of 6.1m probably won't happen and he will be a UFA, though I suspect KK owes Carolina some loyalty for his bloated 6.1m deal.


The rumor is that the Canes and KK already had agreed to terms on an extension at a far lower cap hit, and they were waiting until January to announce it.
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16 nov. 2021 à 13 h 31
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There are a lot of moving parts to this trade.

After looking at this trade carefully, I think Carolina is better off declining.



1. The addition of Holtby is redundant because the Canes brought in Andersen and Raanta this offseason.

Holtby is also a shell of himself from when he won the Cup with Washington in 2018.

With retention, a generous team might pay a 2nd for Holtby.

Assuming Cotton + Mattheos is worth a 2nd, that means it's Klingberg for everything else.



2. Suzuki and Bokk are both former 1st round picks.

Carolina is also giving up another 1st after spending a 1st and a 3rd to get Kotkaniemi in the first place.



3. In other words, you're asking Carolina to give up at least four 1st round picks in value for Klingberg and to retain 3 million on Kotkaniemi.

Carolina says no.
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