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Semi-Tanking the Habs

Créé par: woahtherenow
Équipe: 2021-22 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 16 nov. 2021
Publié: 16 nov. 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Transactions
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MTL
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (FLA)
CGY
  1. Armia, Joel
  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2022 (TBL)
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MTL
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (PIT)
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MTL
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (ANA)
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MTL
  1. Choix de 6e ronde en 2022 (NJD)
  2. Choix de 7e ronde en 2023 (NJD)
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MTL
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (CBJ)
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MTL
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (EDM)
EDM
  1. Allen, Jake
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (FLA)
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16 nov. 2021 à 10 h 47
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lmao chiarot worth a 2nd max
16 nov. 2021 à 10 h 51
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-Armia just signed...I feel like the list of players that get signed as UFA's, and then traded a few months later is probably prettttttttty short.
-Chia might be worth a 1st, but the LD market has the potential to be flooded at the deadline, which could f*ck that plan.
-Ducks decline.
-Not a super big deal, but McNiven gets waived...People aren't giving up picks for 3rd/4th string goalies.
-I'd be surprised if someone gave up more than a 3rd for Lehkonen. I get that Habs fans love him, but every team has guys like him.
-Edmonton giving up a 1st to downgrade their goaltending situation seems like poor asset management.
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16 nov. 2021 à 10 h 51
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lmao chiarot worth a 2nd max


based on? closest comparable is the savard trade at the deadline last year, and the return was a first. So unless the market is filled with rental dman at the deadline this could very well be the return if Habs retain salary.
16 nov. 2021 à 11 h 7
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lmao chiarot worth a 2nd max


Quoting: habs_need_Scoring
based on? closest comparable is the savard trade at the deadline last year, and the return was a first. So unless the market is filled with rental dman at the deadline this could very well be the return if Habs retain salary.


And Chiarot is 3X better than Savard
16 nov. 2021 à 11 h 7
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i think every pick should be dropped a round.
16 nov. 2021 à 11 h 8
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And Chiarot is 3X better than Savard


half the league is 3x better than savard this isnt saying much
16 nov. 2021 à 11 h 9
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Quoting: habs_need_Scoring
based on? closest comparable is the savard trade at the deadline last year, and the return was a first. So unless the market is filled with rental dman at the deadline this could very well be the return if Habs retain salary.


i think habs fans need to stop referring back to this trade when trying to get a 1st for chiarot
16 nov. 2021 à 11 h 9
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half the league is 3x better than savard this isnt saying much


Savard returned a 1st because he plays physical, Chiarot is better all around and more nasty. Chiarot will bring a 1st I think
16 nov. 2021 à 11 h 10
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Savard returned a 1st because he plays physical, Chiarot is better all around and more nasty. Chiarot will bring a 1st I think


noone should pay a first on the basis of being "nasty"
16 nov. 2021 à 11 h 16
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i think habs fans need to stop referring back to this trade when trying to get a 1st for chiarot


so instead should reference nothing and just make up values out of thin air? Chiarot currently sits tie for 2nd for goals by a dman maybe his return should be a first a top d prospect and a 3rd for good measure.
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16 nov. 2021 à 11 h 17
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Armia's three plus years at 3.4m makes him almost untradeable IMO. 3rd/4th liners just don't make that much in a cap strapped league.
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16 nov. 2021 à 11 h 19
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so instead should reference nothing and just make up values out of thin air? Chiarot currently sits tie for 2nd for goals by a dman maybe his return should be a first a top d prospect and a 3rd for good measure.


maybe chalk it up as an overpay and that chiarot wont get that return, im sure bergevin will sign him to 6x6 anyways
16 nov. 2021 à 11 h 23
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maybe chalk it up as an overpay and that chiarot wont get that return, im sure bergevin will sign him to 6x6 anyways


an overpay based on your personal opinion? or maybe it was just the way the market played out for a vet dman at the deadline, for sure this year there could be a flood of dman on the market and than Chairot could certainly only a fetch a second but completely logically to look back at last years TDL to find a comparable.

At this point i'm not sure bergevin is going to be allowed to do much of anything when it comes to major signings.
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16 nov. 2021 à 11 h 28
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an overpay based on your personal opinion? or maybe it was just the way the market played out for a vet dman at the deadline, for sure this year there could be a flood of dman on the market and than Chairot could certainly only a fetch a second but completely logically to look back at last years TDL to find a comparable.

At this point i'm not sure bergevin is going to be allowed to do much of anything when it comes to major signings.


is he worth a first? no, thats an overpay, they won the cup so it doesnt really matter anymore but it was an overpay, he was also better than he was now
16 nov. 2021 à 11 h 31
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lmao chiarot worth a 2nd max


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based on? closest comparable is the savard trade at the deadline last year, and the return was a first. So unless the market is filled with rental dman at the deadline this could very well be the return if Habs retain salary.


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And Chiarot is 3X better than Savard


Chiarot is worth a 2nd max? and yet somehow bergevin got a 2nd & a 4th for marco frkn scandella
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16 nov. 2021 à 11 h 38
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is he worth a first? no, thats an overpay, they won the cup so it doesnt really matter anymore but it was an overpay, he was also better than he was now


Everyone knows Chiarot isn’t worth a 1st, but somehow someone WILL overpay for him
16 nov. 2021 à 11 h 41
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Everyone knows Chiarot isn’t worth a 1st, but somehow someone WILL overpay for him


i think the only person that values him that high and the only person who would overpay is marc bergevin
16 nov. 2021 à 13 h 4
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i think the only person that values him that high and the only person who would overpay is marc bergevin


well with way the habs season is going i'm sure we will see what price he fetches. Every deadline theres 1st rounders thrown around by teams in contention without care so i'm not sure a 1st is an overpay, especailly when you consider any team making that deal is giving away at best a 20-25th overall pick, but very possibly an even later pick.
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17 nov. 2021 à 12 h 38
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You guys realize that we look at proposals sending us Lehkonen with the same sort of distaste and annoyance that we do proposals sending us Alex Kerfoot, right? It's been going on for about as long and is just as repetitively tedious. We Just Don't Want Him.
 
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