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Créé par: leafs_and_devils
Date de création initiale: 16 nov. 2021
Publié: 16 nov. 2021
Équipe: 2021-22 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Transactions
1.
TOR
  1. Johnson, Tyler (1 500 000 $ retained)
  2. Nylander, Alexander
  3. Strome, Dylan
CHI
  1. Kerfoot, Alexander
  2. Král, Filip
2.
TOR
    CHI
    1. Ritchie, Nick
    3.
    TOR
    1. 2023 3e round pick (PIT)
    2. 2022 5e round pick (PIT)
    PIT
    1. Holl, Justin
    4.
    TOR
    1. 2022 3e round pick (MIN)
    MIN
    1. 2023 3e round pick (PIT)
    5.
    TOR
    1. Motte, Tyler (225 000 $ retained)
    2. 2022 4e round pick (VAN)
    VAN
    1. Engvall, Pierre
    2. 2022 5e round pick (PIT)
    Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
    • Phil Kessel: 1 200 000 $ (15%)
    ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
    2022
    TOR
    TOR
    MIN
    VAN
    TOR
    2023
    TOR
    TOR
    TOR
    TOR
    TOR
    TOR
    2024
    TOR
    TOR
    TOR
    TOR
    TOR
    TOR
    TOR
    TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
    2281 500 000 $80 547 241 $0 $400 000 $952 759 $
    Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
    TOR
    Bunting, Michael
    950 000 $
    AG
    UFA - 2
    TOR
    Matthews, Auston
    11 640 250 $
    C
    UFA - 3
    TOR
    Nylander, William
    6 962 366 $
    AD, AG
    UFA - 3
    CHI
    Strome, Dylan
    3 000 000 $
    C, AG
    RFA - 1
    TOR
    Tavares, John
    11 000 000 $
    C
    NMC
    UFA - 4
    TOR
    Marner, Mitchell
    10 903 000 $
    AD
    UFA - 4
    VAN
    Motte, Tyler
    1 000 000 $
    AG, AD
    UFA - 1
    TOR
    Kämpf, David
    1 500 000 $
    C, AD
    UFA - 2
    TOR
    Kase, Ondrej
    1 250 000 $
    AD
    RFA - 1
    CHI
    Nylander, Alexander
    874 125 $
    AD, AG
    RFA - 1
    TOR
    Spezza, Jason
    750 000 $
    C, AD
    UFA - 1
    CHI
    Johnson, Tyler
    3 500 000 $
    AD, C
    NTC
    UFA - 3
    Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
    TOR
    Muzzin, Jake
    5 625 000 $
    DG
    NTC
    UFA - 3
    TOR
    Brodie, TJ
    5 000 000 $
    DD
    NTC
    UFA - 3
    TOR
    Campbell, Jack
    1 650 000 $
    G
    UFA - 1
    TOR
    Rielly, Morgan
    5 000 000 $
    DG
    NMC
    UFA - 1
    TOR
    Liljegren, Timothy
    863 333 $
    DD
    RFA - 1
    TOR
    Mrázek, Petr
    3 800 000 $
    G
    NTC
    UFA - 3
    TOR
    Sandin, Rasmus
    894 167 $
    DG
    RFA - 1
    TOR
    Dermott, Travis
    1 500 000 $
    DG/DD
    RFA - 2
    Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
    TOR
    Simmonds, Wayne
    900 000 $
    AD, AG
    NTC
    UFA - 2
    TOR
    Mikheyev, Ilya
    1 645 000 $
    AG, AD
    UFA - 1
    TOR
    Rubins, Kristians
    785 000 $
    DG
    RFA - 1

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    16 nov. 2021 à 0 h 30
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    These trades don’t make much sense
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    16 nov. 2021 à 0 h 30
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    Can't lock yourself in to that Johnson deal if he's going to be on the fourth line. There are other options to fill a similar role that don't cost $3.5M
    16 nov. 2021 à 0 h 31
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    Quoting: krakowitz
    Can't lock yourself in to that Johnson deal if he's going to be on the fourth line. There are other options to fill a similar role that don't cost $3.5M


    i've been talking to a hawks fan for a while now. this is the deal we agreed on.
    johnson also boosts the PP
    16 nov. 2021 à 0 h 32
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    Quoting: Juiceman
    These trades don’t make much sense


    which ones
    16 nov. 2021 à 0 h 35
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    Quoting: leafs_and_devils
    which ones


    Why are Canucks giving up a higher pick for a worse player?
    16 nov. 2021 à 0 h 39
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    Quoting: cooliny
    Why are Canucks giving up a higher pick for a worse player?


    one is a rfa other is a ufa
    16 nov. 2021 à 0 h 39
    #7
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    Quoting: leafs_and_devils
    one is a rfa other is a ufa


    Does not justify giving up the better pick and the better player
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    16 nov. 2021 à 0 h 48
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    Modifié 16 nov. 2021 à 1 h 13
    If the Pens are in contention, I think they still take that trade.

    The problem is, that 2023 3rd round pick is tied up with the Jeff Carter trade. It can’t be traded. Same with the the 2022 3rd.

    You see the little “*” by the Pens 2023 3rd. If u click that, it tells you the same thing.
    16 nov. 2021 à 1 h 55
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    Quoting: LetsGoPens69
    If the Pens are in contention, I think they still take that trade.

    The problem is, that 2023 3rd round pick is tied up with the Jeff Carter trade. It can’t be traded. Same with the the 2022 3rd.

    You see the little “*” by the Pens 2023 3rd. If u click that, it tells you the same thing.


    ill take the 2024 then smile
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    16 nov. 2021 à 2 h 16
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    Modifié 16 nov. 2021 à 3 h 4
    Quoting: leafs_and_devils
    ill take the 2024 then smile


    I don’t really think u or I have a say in it. But good deal, I guess..

    But I do think you might undervaluing Holl though. Everything I’ve read says the Leafs are asking for a lot.

    I guess a 3rd and a 5th is good value and might be considered a lot. But reading the stuff out there, I was thinking they were trying to get a late 1st from a contender or maybe even a prospect too.

    And they might get it at the deadline. It wouldn’t surprise me. Defensive D-man are valued in the NHL in to contenders at the deadline.

    https://www.yardbarker.com/nhl/articles/penguins_might_see_solution_in_trading_for_maple_leafs_justin_holl/s1_16454_36383813
    16 nov. 2021 à 16 h 43
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    The hawks would probably do that. This probably favors the Hawks more immediately, but could definitely reverse in favor very easily. I personally think the Hawks should be looking for a top 6 RW before they look at another LW. But Kerfoot would still be a nice addition and Kral seems pretty promising. The hawks have too many floaters and not enough people in solidified roles. So this helps them solidify the LW more and get rid of some redundancies.

    As for what the Leafs would be recieving, I feel like the Hawks don't have the proper personnel to compliment and utilize Johnson properly but he can absolutely still be a successful and productive player in the NHL if he were. Alex Nylander is more technically skilled than his brother and if he can get things going in the NHL, will be a very promising player. Strome is kind of the same. He has a lot of upside (probably more than Kerfoot) that either hasn't been utilized properly, hasn't quite blossomed at the NHL level yet, or (more likely) a combination of both. Most of the upside of what the Leafs would be receiving is completely speculative at this point. And I think if they really want to be buyers and go for a cup this year, there are probably better options for them. Maybe not options with as much long term certainty considering their cap situation. But better options for winning right now.
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    16 nov. 2021 à 23 h 53
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    Quoting: Garak
    The hawks would probably do that. This probably favors the Hawks more immediately, but could definitely reverse in favor very easily. I personally think the Hawks should be looking for a top 6 RW before they look at another LW. But Kerfoot would still be a nice addition and Kral seems pretty promising. The hawks have too many floaters and not enough people in solidified roles. So this helps them solidify the LW more and get rid of some redundancies.

    As for what the Leafs would be recieving, I feel like the Hawks don't have the proper personnel to compliment and utilize Johnson properly but he can absolutely still be a successful and productive player in the NHL if he were. Alex Nylander is more technically skilled than his brother and if he can get things going in the NHL, will be a very promising player. Strome is kind of the same. He has a lot of upside (probably more than Kerfoot) that either hasn't been utilized properly, hasn't quite blossomed at the NHL level yet, or (more likely) a combination of both. Most of the upside of what the Leafs would be receiving is completely speculative at this point. And I think if they really want to be buyers and go for a cup this year, there are probably better options for them. Maybe not options with as much long term certainty considering their cap situation. But better options for winning right now.


    i'd agree there's better options, but that comes at a steep price. this gives us some flexibility and doesn't affect the farm system too much. kral will be good but he'll never crack the leafs roster. this gives the leafs 3 nice complimentary players (which we need more than more star players at high contracts and trade costs) that can fill in a lot of holes for the team.
    johnson fills in a HUGE slot on PP2, currently taken up by ritchie. nylander/strome can replace engvall for the other.
     
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