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nylander and strome

Créé par: leafs_and_devils
Date de création initiale: 15 nov. 2021
Publié: 15 nov. 2021
Équipe: 2021-22 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Explications
simpler way of addressing the evident needs at the deadline
Transactions
1.
TOR
  1. Nylander, Alexander
  2. Strome, Dylan
CHI
  1. Der-Arguchintsev, Semyon
  2. 2023 2e round pick (TOR)
  3. 2024 3e round pick (TOR)
2.
TOR
    ARI
    1. Ritchie, Nick
    2. 2024 6e round pick (TOR)
    3.
    TOR
    1. 2022 4e round pick (PIT)
    PIT
    1. Holl, Justin
    4.
    TOR
    1. Motte, Tyler (225 000 $ retained)
    VAN
    1. 2023 4e round pick (TOR)
    Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
    • Phil Kessel: 1 200 000 $ (15%)
    ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
    2022
    TOR
    TOR
    PIT
    TOR
    2023
    TOR
    TOR
    TOR
    TOR
    2024
    TOR
    TOR
    TOR
    TOR
    TOR
    TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
    2281 500 000 $81 012 241 $0 $400 000 $487 759 $
    Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
    TOR
    Nylander, William
    6 962 366 $
    AD, AG
    UFA - 3
    TOR
    Matthews, Auston
    11 640 250 $
    C
    UFA - 3
    CHI
    Nylander, Alexander
    874 125 $
    AD, AG
    RFA - 1
    CHI
    Strome, Dylan
    3 000 000 $
    C, AG
    RFA - 1
    TOR
    Tavares, John
    11 000 000 $
    C
    NMC
    UFA - 4
    TOR
    Marner, Mitchell
    10 903 000 $
    AD
    UFA - 4
    TOR
    Kämpf, David
    1 500 000 $
    C, AD
    UFA - 2
    TOR
    Kerfoot, Alexander
    3 500 000 $
    C, AG
    UFA - 2
    TOR
    Kase, Ondrej
    1 250 000 $
    AD
    RFA - 1
    TOR
    Bunting, Michael
    950 000 $
    AG
    UFA - 2
    TOR
    Spezza, Jason
    750 000 $
    C, AD
    UFA - 1
    VAN
    Motte, Tyler
    1 000 000 $
    AG, AD
    UFA - 1
    Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
    TOR
    Muzzin, Jake
    5 625 000 $
    DG
    NTC
    UFA - 3
    TOR
    Brodie, TJ
    5 000 000 $
    DD
    NTC
    UFA - 3
    TOR
    Campbell, Jack
    1 650 000 $
    G
    UFA - 1
    TOR
    Rielly, Morgan
    5 000 000 $
    DG
    NMC
    UFA - 1
    TOR
    Dermott, Travis
    1 500 000 $
    DG/DD
    RFA - 2
    TOR
    Mrázek, Petr
    3 800 000 $
    G
    NTC
    UFA - 3
    TOR
    Sandin, Rasmus
    894 167 $
    DG
    RFA - 1
    TOR
    Liljegren, Timothy
    863 333 $
    DD
    RFA - 1
    Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
    TOR
    Engvall, Pierre
    1 250 000 $
    AG, C
    RFA - 1
    TOR
    Mikheyev, Ilya
    1 645 000 $
    AG, AD
    UFA - 1
    TOR
    Simmonds, Wayne
    900 000 $
    AD, AG
    NTC
    UFA - 2

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    15 nov. 2021 à 23 h 35
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    Pens are in. I wish I could accept it for them. I think the rumors are, the Leafs are asking for more than that for Holl though.
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    15 nov. 2021 à 23 h 43
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    Quoting: LetsGoPens69
    Pens are in. I wish I could accept it for them. I think the rumors are, the Leafs are asking for more than that for Holl though.


    would you do it for a 3rd?
    15 nov. 2021 à 23 h 47
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    I know you want this to work for the Leafs but its just not going to get it done. 23 and 24. picks with a low level prospect for a 24 year old who's just got a fresh start and has been known to produce at .5ppg or better + Nylander who had a decent rookie year before missing a year with injury. They will both be given chances
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    16 nov. 2021 à 0 h 3
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    Quoting: leafs_and_devils
    would you do it for a 3rd?


    Would I personally.?? I don’t think it matters. But yes.

    Even Holl playing RHD 3rd pairing minutes is worth 2M per and a 3rd round pick in trade in my opinion.

    Even as a stay at home D-man, that doesn’t score often. But I like stay at home D-man. Not a fan of the flashy D-man that fans on here claimer for; Like D’Angello, Ghoustisbhere, V.Mete.



    And somehow u found away to make the Leafs softer?? With both Nylanders on a team, you better put up 5-10 goals a night..lol.

    And Dylan Strome is a pillow too; waste of 6’3, 200 pound body. He literally had 2 hits playing in 20 games one season. How is that possible in the NHL.?? Panarin even falls into 20 hits a season.

    Though Johnny G has the record of 1 hit in 70 games..like wtf is that.?? How that’s possible I’m not sure.
    16 nov. 2021 à 0 h 6
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    Quoting: Aussie_Blackhawk
    I know you want this to work for the Leafs but its just not going to get it done. 23 and 24. picks with a low level prospect for a 24 year old who's just got a fresh start and has been known to produce at .5ppg or better + Nylander who had a decent rookie year before missing a year with injury. They will both be given chances


    i totally get what ur saying but i feel like this isn't that bad value.

    i know you don't want to trade them, but if it came down to it, what would your mock be? i'm not saying you're going to commit to the trade, just an approximate mock trade so i can edit & use
    16 nov. 2021 à 0 h 6
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    Quoting: Aussie_Blackhawk
    I know you want this to work for the Leafs but its just not going to get it done. 23 and 24. picks with a low level prospect for a 24 year old who's just got a fresh start and has been known to produce at .5ppg or better + Nylander who had a decent rookie year before missing a year with injury. They will both be given chances


    Literally both top 5 of the softest players in the NHL.
    16 nov. 2021 à 0 h 8
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    Quoting: leafs_and_devils
    i totally get what ur saying but i feel like this isn't that bad value.

    i know you don't want to trade them, but if it came down to it, what would your mock be? i'm not saying you're going to commit to the trade, just an approximate mock trade so i can edit & use


    Toronto Maple Leafs:
    Receive

    Strome (50% Retained) + Nylander + T Johnson + 22' TOR 3rd

    Chicago Blackhawks:

    Receive

    A.Kerfoot


    A 3rd team could be added to accomodate Johnson contract more efficiently.
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    16 nov. 2021 à 0 h 9
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    Quoting: LetsGoPens69
    Would I personally.?? I don’t think it matters. But yes.

    Even Holl playing RHD 3rd pairing minutes is worth 2M per and a 3rd round pick in trade in my opinion.

    Even as a stay at home D-man, that doesn’t score often. But I like stay at home D-man. Not a fan of the flashy D-man that fans on here claimer for; Like D’Angello, Ghoustisbhere, V.Mete.



    And somehow u found away to make the Leafs softer?? With both Nylanders on a team, you better put up 5-10 goals a night..lol.

    And Dylan Strome is a pillow too; waste of 6’3, 200 pound body. He literally had 2 hits playing in 20 games one season. How is that possible in the NHL.?? Panarin even falls into 20 hits a season.

    Though Johnny G has the record of 1 hit in 70 games..like wtf is that.?? How that’s possible I’m not sure.


    simmonds, muzzin, kampf, kase, sandin, bunting, brodie, and, to a lesser extent, tavares, matthews, motte, and dermott all hit. i'd much rather acquire skill & finishing (something the leafs desperately need) and give up justin holl who is easily internally replaced.
    16 nov. 2021 à 0 h 10
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    Quoting: Aussie_Blackhawk
    Toronto Maple Leafs:
    Receive

    Strome (50% Retained) + Nylander + T Johnson + 22' TOR 3rd

    Chicago Blackhawks:

    Receive

    A.Kerfoot


    A 3rd team could be added to accomodate Johnson contract more efficiently.


    a part of me doesn't mind this. lemme ACGM this to see if the cap works. which of these would you be willing to do:
    a) take on ritchie contract
    b) retain on johnson
    c) pay the third team to retain on johnson
    16 nov. 2021 à 0 h 19
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    Quoting: leafs_and_devils
    simmonds, muzzin, kampf, kase, sandin, bunting, brodie, and, to a lesser extent, tavares, matthews, motte, and dermott all hit. i'd much rather acquire skill & finishing (something the leafs desperately need) and give up justin holl who is easily internally replaced.


    Lumping Kase and Brodie in as physical players is comical. And no Kase and Brodie don’t hit anyone. And Motte hits everything that moves..?? I don’t know where u are getting this from. But ok.
    16 nov. 2021 à 0 h 21
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    Quoting: LetsGoPens69
    Lumping Kase and Brodie in as physical players is comical. And no Kase and Brodie don’t hit anyone. And Motte hits everything that moves..?? I don’t know where u are getting this from. But ok.


    mentally switched them up. motte is a hitter, kase is at least a good forechecker. you don't really need monster hits anymore, the games evolved past that.
    16 nov. 2021 à 0 h 27
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    Quoting: leafs_and_devils
    mentally switched them up. motte is a hitter, kase is at least a good forechecker. you don't really need monster hits anymore, the games evolved past that.


    Ok. Tell TB, the last two SC champs, that the game isn’t physical. And the Blues( SC winners in 18-19; they were super physical and full of monster hitters).

    My opinion is the NHL will never move past being physically. Being big and physically will always play in the NHL. Buying into skilled, reclamation projects, like Kase will most of time fail.

    Especially come play-off time. And playing a 82 game season. But we can agree to disagree.
    16 nov. 2021 à 1 h 33
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    Quoting: leafs_and_devils
    a part of me doesn't mind this. lemme ACGM this to see if the cap works. which of these would you be willing to do:
    a) take on ritchie contract
    b) retain on johnson
    c) pay the third team to retain on johnson


    Gave you the 3rd to go towards moving TJ. You will probably have to part with your 2nd and maybe a pick in a later year or prospect to get TJ contract absorbed by another team.
     
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