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Équipe: 2021-22 Ducks d'Anaheim
Date de création initiale: 14 nov. 2021
Publié: 14 nov. 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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This team would be utterly insane if they hit on those picks
Transactions
1.
ANA
  1. Barré-Boulet, Alex
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (TBL)
TBL
  1. Rakell, Rickard (1 894 722 $ retained)
2.
ANA
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (PIT)
PIT
  1. Manson, Josh (2 050 000 $ retained)
3.
ANA
  1. Bolduc, Samuel
  2. Pánik, Richard
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (NYI)
  4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (NYI)
4.
ANA
  1. Choix de 4e ronde en 2022 (PIT)
PIT
  1. Deslauriers, Nicolas
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
C, AG
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1 450 000 $1 450 000 $
AD
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3 000 000 $3 000 000 $ (Bonis de performance1 500 000 $$2M)
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822 500 $822 500 $ (Bonis de performance132 500 $$132K)
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1 700 000 $1 700 000 $
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UFA - 1
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UFA - 5
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
DD
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6 400 000 $6 400 000 $
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1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
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3 900 000 $3 900 000 $
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950 000 $950 000 $
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809 166 $809 166 $ (Bonis de performance82 500 $$82K)
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750 000 $750 000 $
DG/DD
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Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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1 295 000 $1 295 000 $
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RFA - 3
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6 875 000 $6 875 000 $
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M-NTC
UFA - 1
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14 nov. 2021 à 15 h 57
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Pretty good trades all around— they should sell at the deadline.
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14 nov. 2021 à 16 h 5
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Depends. Do u think Troy Terry is sustaining a 90pt season? Haha
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14 nov. 2021 à 16 h 5
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TBL - NO
PIT - no but change to a 2022 1st and then YES
NYI - YES
PIT - I’d rather not trade D Lo, I don’t think his trade value is high enough compared to what he is worth to Anaheim
14 nov. 2021 à 16 h 5
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Quoting: csick
Depends. Do u think Troy Terry is sustaining a 90pt season? Haha


65-70+ I think
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14 nov. 2021 à 16 h 16
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Quoting: GeneralLandro
TBL - NO
PIT - no but change to a 2022 1st and then YES
NYI - YES
PIT - I’d rather not trade D Lo, I don’t think his trade value is high enough compared to what he is worth to Anaheim


For the Pit trade why does a 1 year change make a difference, both are stacked drafts and mason probably leaves pit as they might not be able to afford him so sign him in FA
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14 nov. 2021 à 16 h 19
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Quoting: xercuses
For the Pit trade why does a 1 year change make a difference, both are stacked drafts and mason probably leaves pit as they might not be able to afford him so sign him in FA


Yeah I guess you are right

Spread out the picks across a couple years huh

Didn’t really think about next years draft, just about all the guys I’d love Anaheim to be able to try and get
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14 nov. 2021 à 16 h 35
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TB doesn't have the cap space
14 nov. 2021 à 16 h 38
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Quoting: GeneralLandro
Yeah I guess you are right

Spread out the picks across a couple years huh

Didn’t really think about next years draft, just about all the guys I’d love Anaheim to be able to try and get

Fs but both are really good deep drafts
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14 nov. 2021 à 16 h 51
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Well.

Troy Terry scoring on 1/3 of every shot he takes is going to end but their PDO situation is just a bit above average so probably a fringe playoff team?

Only 8 4 3 rn when average is 7 5 2 also so no big
14 nov. 2021 à 17 h 27
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Without an extension in place isles should not make that trade. 1st and 2nd with no Bolduc would be fair.
14 nov. 2021 à 18 h 9
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Quoting: Radu47
Well.

Troy Terry scoring on 1/3 of every shot he takes is going to end but their PDO situation is just a bit above average so probably a fringe playoff team?

Only 8 4 3 rn when average is 7 5 2 also so no big

PDO is a dumb stat, I don’t think you should be basing any opinions on that. Terry’s shooting percentage regressing will impact their ability to score and bring them back down to earth, I think they’re getting carried by a hot start from Gibson and Terry, and will fall out of the playoffs when they inevitably work Gibson into the ground (again) and Terry’s shooting percentage regresses.
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14 nov. 2021 à 18 h 9
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Quoting: GeneralLandro
TBL - NO
PIT - no but change to a 2022 1st and then YES
NYI - YES
PIT - I’d rather not trade D Lo, I don’t think his trade value is high enough compared to what he is worth to Anaheim


LOL There is ZERO chance the Pens would make that move. This trade is almost insulting.

1) Not that you guys would know, but Hextall has repeatedly publicly stated the Pens' 1st & 2nd round picks are off-limits, so that disqualifies this from the jump. The whole reason Hextall as brought in was to be the Anti-Rutherford.

2) Manson is in no way shape or form worth a 1st. He's a garbage defenseman. He had some good statistical years where he benefited from playing on a very good Ducks d-core. He actually may be one of the most overrated players around.

Pens laugh this one out of the building.
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14 nov. 2021 à 18 h 54
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Quoting: GeneralLandro
TBL - NO
PIT - no but change to a 2022 1st and then YES
NYI - YES
PIT - I’d rather not trade D Lo, I don’t think his trade value is high enough compared to what he is worth to Anaheim


What happened to Lindholm? Wasn’t he ever a #1D ?
14 nov. 2021 à 18 h 57
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Quoting: Mr_Gardoki
LOL There is ZERO chance the Pens would make that move. This trade is almost insulting.

1) Not that you guys would know, but Hextall has repeatedly publicly stated the Pens' 1st & 2nd round picks are off-limits, so that disqualifies this from the jump. The whole reason Hextall as brought in was to be the Anti-Rutherford.

2) Manson is in no way shape or form worth a 1st. He's a garbage defenseman. He had some good statistical years where he benefited from playing on a very good Ducks d-core. He actually may be one of the most overrated players around.

Pens laugh this one out of the building.


Well, I think that you're a little over the top in your criticism of Josh Manson, but as someone who is easily provoked into immediate outrage by proposed trades that I think disadvantage my teams, I can see where you're coming from, sympathize, and agree that he isn't worth a first (even in 2023).
14 nov. 2021 à 18 h 59
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PDO is a dumb stat, I don’t think you should be basing any opinions on that. Terry’s shooting percentage regressing will impact their ability to score and bring them back down to earth, I think they’re getting carried by a hot start from Gibson and Terry, and will fall out of the playoffs when they inevitably work Gibson into the ground (again) and Terry’s shooting percentage regresses.


I thought Gibby's effort the other night against Seattle was VERY lackluster, and I hope that he rebounds tonight.
14 nov. 2021 à 19 h 5
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Quoting: OldNYIfan
Well, I think that you're a little over the top in your criticism of Josh Manson, but as someone who is easily provoked into immediate outrage by proposed trades that I think disadvantage my teams, I can see where you're coming from, sympathize, and agree that he isn't worth a first (even in 2023).


Josh Manson at one point looked to be a stud. Am I being a little over the top? Maybe, I'll concede that, but those years he looked to be a stud, at least IMO. it was clear that was due to the great defense ANA had at the time. To me he was a passenger and his play since ANA started their decline is proof of this.

Teams may certainly overvalue him due to his physical prowess, but taking a quick glance at a 3-year sample on natty stat trick, his major stats are all well below average.

CF% 48.09
FF% 47.79
SF% 47.75
xGF% 45.88
HDCF% 47.29
HDGF% 45.45

That's pretty no bueno. Is he garbage? Maybe overstated on my part, but he's well below average in every category.
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14 nov. 2021 à 19 h 8
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Josh Manson at one point looked to be a stud. Am I being a little over the top? Maybe, I'll concede that, but those years he looked to be a stud, at least IMO. it was clear that was due to the great defense ANA had at the time. To me he was a passenger and his play since ANA started their decline is proof of this.

Teams may certainly overvalue him due to his physical prowess, but taking a quick glance at a 3-year sample on natty stat trick, his major stats are all well below average.

CF% 48.09
FF% 47.79
SF% 47.75
xGF% 45.88
HDCF% 47.29
HDGF% 45.45

That's pretty no bueno. Is he garbage? Maybe overstated on my part, but he's well below average in every category.


Yeah, I was reacting to the single word "garbage." All the rest of both of your comments has indisputable merit.
14 nov. 2021 à 19 h 10
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Yeah, I was reacting to the single word "garbage." All the rest of both of your comments has indisputable merit.


Haha yeah. Fair is fair to call me out on that lol
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14 nov. 2021 à 21 h 21
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dont see the isles giving Bolduc a first and a 2nd, maybe the same trade but swap wilde in for bolduc
15 nov. 2021 à 9 h 35
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Isles say yes if Lindholm comes with an extension. Otherwise, something needs to come out that isn't Panik.
 
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