we can sign de haan in free agency this offseason for like 3 mil
no use of giving up assets

note - these are all different situations, money would need to be worked out and there would be moving pieces, some are obviously worth more than others etc etc

would love to see any trade proposals or ideas for these players

Milano - don’t think he is available

Manson - 1st in 2022
- 50% retained ($2,050,000)
- add a pick or prospect possibly
- open to a cap dump possibly as well

Engvall - 5th round pick (ish)

Holl - probably a 3rd (ish. I could see him getting a 2nd or better depending on the team)

Kerfoot - not up for trade unless we’re upgrading. He’s been great this year.

Dermott - rather trade Holl, but probably a 3rd or so.

Would love to do a package of Debrusk+ for JT Miller.

Dermott and Holl - I honestly have no idea. Supposedly either could be had, but if it were up to me I'd really rather keep the defensive depth unless it was really worth their while.

Engvall - Probably a back half pick or a tweener player that makes less

Kerfoot - He's been excellent so far this season. Can't imagine he's available unless it's a home run.

Dadanov/Smith are probably almost free depending on when Eichel comes back.

Serg probably takes a Garland/Boeser type player for pure value but that really doesn't help Tampa in any way.

Same value for Girard.

Tampa isn't trading a d, a really good d under long term contract when they are still a championship team. Reilly Smith isn't being traded by Vegas.

I'd accept Manson with 50% retention for Jett Woo and your 2022 second, but you don't have one; postponing the pick one year devalues the package, so I don't know how to compensate for that.

Milano is a tougher question. He finally seems to be developing into a middle-6 forward, but the jury is still out. The 2022 second might be enough, but again . . .

Remember that Ducks management is loath to do intra-divisional trades, and that antipathy will be increased by the interim status of the guys now in the front office, so any deal is unlikely unless it's almost too good to be true from our perspective.

Any team that pays Vegas anything for Smith or Dadonov are chumps. And should be slapped silly by the other West contenders.

Maybe debrusk Lysell and a 1st

Take out Lysell.

Then you have to add something else of his value, debrusk has very little value right now maybe a 3rd rounder or so and that with a first doesn’t get Miller