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Créé par: csick
Équipe: 2021-22 Avalanche du Colorado
Date de création initiale: 12 nov. 2021
Publié: 12 nov. 2021
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I feel like Boston needs more of a 2nd pairing guy that can carry the plays the same way McAvoy does on the first pair . And Colorado needs a defensive partner for Byram.
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12 nov. 2021 à 14 h 2
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Think Boston needs to add but I don’t know what- neither team would be interested in picks or prospects
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12 nov. 2021 à 14 h 3
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Think Boston needs to add but I don’t know what- neither team would be interested in picks or prospects


Yeah I really like Carlo tbh.
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12 nov. 2021 à 14 h 6
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Those seem fair
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12 nov. 2021 à 14 h 6
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Yeah I really like Carlo tbh.


Big fan of his game as well and he’s on a very nice contract but Girard is really really good in every counting stat + analytic
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Big fan of his game as well and he’s on a very nice contract but Girard is really really good in every counting stat + analytic


Oh 100%. I just think a swap makes sense for both teams. Girard can carry the 2nd pairing in Boston and Colorado has a defensive partner for Byram. I’m sure there would be more to this deal than those 2, just think in general those 2 main pieces in the deal would be good
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12 nov. 2021 à 14 h 11
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This is pretty good. Not sure Arizona would retain that much but the 2nd in a good draft isn't bad incentive for them to do so.
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12 nov. 2021 à 14 h 28
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It’s an interesting proposal. But I get the feeling Bruins Fans will hate it
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12 nov. 2021 à 14 h 29
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It’s an interesting proposal. But I get the feeling Bruins Fans will hate it


I think the ppl who hate on it will probably say that Girard is small or sucks defensively and haven’t watched it play much
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12 nov. 2021 à 14 h 30
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Girard would be great for Boston, not sure they have the available assets to get him though
12 nov. 2021 à 14 h 31
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Yeah I really like Carlo tbh.


The guy needs to be reported to the principals office for that giveaway that costed Boston the game
12 nov. 2021 à 14 h 31
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Trade value aside, doubt the Bruins want Reilly-Girard on the 2nd pair even if it's an upgrade from a personal standpoint. Carlo also just re-signed.
12 nov. 2021 à 14 h 31
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The Girard/Carlo swap makes some sense. I really like Carlo's game, and he's from Colorado Springs, so there is that completely meaningless but sentimental aspect. More to the point though, he adds an element that Colorado's defense is arguably lacking (and vice versa as it relates to Girard and Boston). Kessel could be okay as well, although he's not my favorite fit for that line.

I'm not too sure on Haula and Fischer. It might be overkill to go after both. There is no way my boy O'Connor gets relegated to 13th forward duty. That dude has been a beast and just keeps getting better.
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12 nov. 2021 à 14 h 32
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I think the ppl who hate on it will probably say that Girard is small or sucks defensively and haven’t watched it play much


Yeah, people assume he’s bad defensively bc he’s small or he must be like Tyson Barrie bc he plays in Colorado etc etc

Bruins 2c seems to be a spot of concern on their line up so I just think if they go and make a big move it’s for that

But Carlo girard is fair avs interesting
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12 nov. 2021 à 14 h 37
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Can't see Boston doing that. You've solved one problem by making another.
12 nov. 2021 à 15 h 56
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Don't see Boston looking to move Carlo. The see him as part of the future leadership core and he just re-signed long term. The level of talent also drops off a cliff after McAvoy and Carlo for RHD in the Bruins system.
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Don't see Boston looking to move Carlo. The see him as part of the future leadership core and he just re-signed long term. The level of talent also drops off a cliff after McAvoy and Carlo for RHD in the Bruins system.


Trade Debrusk for Adam Larsson
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12 nov. 2021 à 16 h 53
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Trade Debrusk for Adam Larsson
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Larsson just signed his contract, he isn't getting traded.
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Not sure why people automatically assume that a guy who just signed won't get traded. If a team needs to make a move and there is no clause involved they're gone.

On the value, Carlo plus a (very) small something to balance is fair for Girard. Not much, or else could be a bigger element with something else from COL. Helps both teams though I'd argue maybe helps COL more even though Girard is the better player, simply because it balances Colorado's D better. The Kessel trade I'm a bit 'meh' on. I know he'd produce but just can't excited about it. Really would rather the Avs looked at a package to try and prise Forsberg out of NAS.
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