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Créé par: ragger_lord
Équipe: 2021-22 Canucks de Vancouver
Date de création initiale: 11 nov. 2021
Publié: 11 nov. 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Traded everyone I don't considwer untouchable, or untradeable, or just not worth trading.

New coach, new GM, soft rebuild it all
Transactions
1.
VAN
  1. Newhook, Alex
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (COL)
COL
  1. Miller, J.T. (2 600 000 $ retained)
2.
VAN
  1. Domi, Max
  2. Johnson, Kent [Liste de réserve]
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (CHI)
3.
VAN
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (VAN)
ARI
  1. Myers, Tyler
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (COL)
4.
VAN
  1. Choix de 4e ronde en 2023 (EDM)
EDM
  1. Pearson, Tanner
Détails additionnels:
Anyone who wants him
5.
VAN
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2022 (CGY)
BOS
  1. Motte, Tyler
Détails additionnels:
Anyone
6.
VAN
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (EDM)
EDM
  1. Halák, Jaroslav
Détails additionnels:
Anywhere
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Frais appliqués
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2023
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2024
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2381 500 000 $62 048 159 $648 780 $2 865 000 $19 451 841 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
891 667 $891 667 $ (Bonis de performance200 000 $$200K)
AG, AD
RFA - 2
Logo de Blue Jackets de Columbus
1 325 000 $1 325 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
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5 875 000 $5 875 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AD, AG
RFA - 3
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4 125 000 $4 125 000 $
C
UFA - 2
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4 950 000 $4 950 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 5
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
725 000 $725 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
908 333 $908 333 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
C, AG
RFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
842 500 $842 500 $ (Bonis de performance82 500 $$82K)
AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
750 000 $750 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
2 650 000 $2 650 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 3
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
750 000 $750 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
7 850 000 $7 850 000 $
DG
UFA - 6
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
G
UFA - 5
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 4
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
811 667 $811 667 $ (Bonis de performance32 500 $$32K)
G
RFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
7 260 000 $7 260 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 6
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
750 000 $750 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
DG
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
800 000 $800 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
750 000 $750 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
1 125 000 $1 125 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
850 000 $850 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
762 500 $762 500 $
DD
UFA - 2

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11 nov. 2021 à 21 h 53
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BRUCE THERE IT IS
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Coaching staff needs to change. Our structure is terrible
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11 nov. 2021 à 21 h 55
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Thanks for Schmidt

13 games in and 5 points away from his last year season totals

Sticking Out Tongue
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11 nov. 2021 à 21 h 56
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COL isn’t doing that.
11 nov. 2021 à 22 h 32
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Thanks for Schmidt

13 games in and 5 points away from his last year season totals

Sticking Out Tongue
he is great. I miss him on the caps
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11 nov. 2021 à 23 h 33
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I love Elias and I think this is definitely a fair offer but I want to build this slowly and build a young core around the next few years of picks we make and I’d rather keep that leverage over Chicago.
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12 nov. 2021 à 0 h 1
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Coaching staff needs to change. Our structure is terrible


Agreed.
12 nov. 2021 à 0 h 2
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I love Elias and I think this is definitely a fair offer but I want to build this slowly and build a young core around the next few years of picks we make and I’d rather keep that leverage over Chicago.


Yeah fair enough. I like your guys team and prospects, part of the reason I wanted to send Petey there haha.
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12 nov. 2021 à 0 h 4
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COL isn’t doing that.


I don't think it's that far off in value but fair enough. You guys seem to love Newhook.

Coleman was worth a first at the deadline in a similar situation, cheap contract for 1.5 years so I think it's reasonable for Miller to be a first + good prospect as he's much better than Coleman.
12 nov. 2021 à 0 h 27
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I don't think it's that far off in value but fair enough. You guys seem to love Newhook.

Coleman was worth a first at the deadline in a similar situation, cheap contract for 1.5 years so I think it's reasonable for Miller to be a first + good prospect as he's much better than Coleman.

Newhook is going to be a stud. TB overpaid for Coleman because of his contract and their cap situation neither of which apply to COL.
12 nov. 2021 à 0 h 33
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Newhook is going to be a stud. TB overpaid for Coleman because of his contract and their cap situation neither of which apply to COL.


The contract applies. Miller with 50% retained is an absolute bargain of a contract, probably better value than Coleman.
12 nov. 2021 à 0 h 37
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The contract applies. Miller with 50% retained is an absolute bargain of a contract, probably better value than Coleman.

Not better than elite prospect on an elc under team control for the next 7 years. Newhook is untouchable outside of an elite C like Eichel and that bot sailed.
12 nov. 2021 à 6 h 34
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Not better than elite prospect on an elc under team control for the next 7 years. Newhook is untouchable outside of an elite C like Eichel and that bot sailed.


Further proof all fans on here blow their prospects way out of proportion. A 20 year old who has yet to stick with the club is far from an elite prospect worth a guy like Eichel.
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12 nov. 2021 à 8 h 29
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Further proof all fans on here blow their prospects way out of proportion. A 20 year old who has yet to stick with the club is far from an elite prospect worth a guy like Eichel.


No Newhook is regularly rated as one of the absolute best prospects and did I say it was one for one? Newhook is better than Krebs who was the biggest part of the Eichel trade, but just further proof some fans don’t understand context at all.
12 nov. 2021 à 8 h 48
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No Newhook is regularly rated as one of the absolute best prospects and did I say it was one for one? Newhook is better than Krebs who was the biggest part of the Eichel trade, but just further proof some fans don’t understand context at all.


The Eichel trade is different. A) he has a major injury B) he wanted out big time C) Buffalo wrecked themselves from the get go. Newhook is going to be a good player but I would temper your expectations.
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The Eichel trade is different. A) he has a major injury B) he wanted out big time C) Buffalo wrecked themselves from the get go. Newhook is going to be a good player but I would temper your expectations.

A 2c that is a 60pt player? Considering he has produced at a ppg level everywhere he has been, has a very solid all around game was the NCAA frosh of the yr over caulfield, Turcotte, Boldy and has been over a ppg in the AHL till his call up and assist last night. Yeah no. Do I expect it right away, no. Are the Avs going to trade him for a 28yr old w/only 2 yrs left on his deal. No.
12 nov. 2021 à 9 h 57
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No Newhook is regularly rated as one of the absolute best prospects and did I say it was one for one? Newhook is better than Krebs who was the biggest part of the Eichel trade, but just further proof some fans don’t understand context at all.


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A 2c that is a 60pt player? Considering he has produced at a ppg level everywhere he has been, has a very solid all around game was the NCAA frosh of the yr over caulfield, Turcotte, Boldy and has been over a ppg in the AHL till his call up and assist last night. Yeah no. Do I expect it right away, no. Are the Avs going to trade him for a 28yr old w/only 2 yrs left on his deal. No.


I wouldn't say 60pt 2C potential is "one of the absolute best prospects." He's no Seider/Byram/Wright etc
12 nov. 2021 à 10 h 27
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A 2c that is a 60pt player? Considering he has produced at a ppg level everywhere he has been, has a very solid all around game was the NCAA frosh of the yr over caulfield, Turcotte, Boldy and has been over a ppg in the AHL till his call up and assist last night. Yeah no. Do I expect it right away, no. Are the Avs going to trade him for a 28yr old w/only 2 yrs left on his deal. No.


A 60 point 2C is hardly an elite prospect.
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I wouldn't say 60pt 2C potential is "one of the absolute best prospects." He's no Seider/Byram/Wright etc


Before the start of last season he was rated as the 9th best prospect in the NHL. Regardless the Avs aren’t trading Newhook for Miller.
13 nov. 2021 à 12 h 26
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Coaching staff needs to change. Our structure is terrible


Amen.

Since Green has come on board, they get scored on first more often than not, outshot more often than not, their line changes are a disaster, and with the exception of the bubble year, their special teams have underachieved. They most often look woefully unprepared most nights.

Where is the team we saw in that outstanding 5 minutes against Nashville? Why won't they play like that with consistency for Green?

Every night is pretty much the same; come out sluggish, chase the play, take a penalty and fall behind 1-0. It doesn't take a genius to know that if you give up the first goal, percentages dictate that you are going to lose that game. It's been that way for over 100 freaking years in the NHL.

There are no excuses now. He has the talent. Are they supposed to throw away another year of this young core for this guy? FIRE THE COACH.
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