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Hertl and a trade

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Équipe: 2022-23 Kings de Los Angeles
Date de création initiale: 11 nov. 2021
Publié: 11 nov. 2021
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No idea if that’s enough for Girard. Nor do I know the needs of COL. I do know Clarke will probably be up sooner than later but who knows.

For now I’ll put Clarke in the lineup cause I think he’ll be ready to step in. Putting Walker on LTIR for ACL/MCL surgery and not being ready next year.
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11 nov. 2021 à 17 h 49
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Oh no. Oh no.

Take a look at the Eichel trade again.
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11 nov. 2021 à 17 h 50
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Oh no. Oh no.

Take a look at the Eichel trade again.

No way is Girard worth an Eichel type deal.

Really wish Vilardi would figure his **** out already
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11 nov. 2021 à 17 h 51
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Why do people keep overpaying for Girard, lol
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Why do people keep overpaying for Girard, lol

Honestly that’s what I’m trying to figure out. Value and needs for COL.
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No way is Girard worth an Eichel type deal.

Really wish Vilardi would figure his **** out already


My point exactly. Tuch is only slightly better now than Gabe but is injured, and Gabe may have a higher upside. Krebs is better than Pinelli by almost as much as Eichel is better than Girard, but even our 2023 first is likely to be better than Las Vegas' 2022 first. This is a huge overpay, and we don't need to do it.
11 nov. 2021 à 17 h 57
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My point exactly. Tuch is only slightly better now than Gabe but is injured, and Gabe may have a higher upside. Krebs is better than Pinelli by almost as much as Eichel is better than Girard, but even our 2023 first is likely to be better than Las Vegas' 2022 first. This is a huge overpay, and we don't need to do it.

For sure. Figured trade Vilardi+ for the D man LA needs. Is Girard that guy maybe.

I love pinelli for what it’s worth.

I think this lineup could do some damage so giving up the 1st is worth it to me.
11 nov. 2021 à 17 h 58
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For sure. Figured trade Vilardi+ for the D man LA needs. Is Girard that guy maybe.

I love pinelli for what it’s worth.

I think this lineup could do some damage so giving up the 1st is worth it to me.


I think Vilardi + 2nd is fair value but Vilardi has been pretty disappointing so far so you might need to add more frown
11 nov. 2021 à 18 h 0
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I would have to think Colorado does that
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11 nov. 2021 à 18 h 1
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I think Vilardi + 2nd is fair value but Vilardi has been pretty disappointing so far so you might need to add more frown

Really?!

No way that’s enough IMO.

23yo LHD a need for LA signed to a great deal…has to be more I’d think. Maybe not 1st and pinelli more but gotta be more than just Vilardi and 2nd.

Although COL has a plethora of D men while LA has the center/wing depth so maybe.
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11 nov. 2021 à 18 h 2
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My point exactly. Tuch is only slightly better now than Gabe but is injured, and Gabe may have a higher upside. Krebs is better than Pinelli by almost as much as Eichel is better than Girard, but even our 2023 first is likely to be better than Las Vegas' 2022 first. This is a huge overpay, and we don't need to do it.


tuch is barely better than a guy with 31 career points in his draft plus 5 season?
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11 nov. 2021 à 18 h 4
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would hate to see Hertl in a LA kings jersey but 7 years at 8mil a year you guys will regret that! as a sharks fan I'm hoping he resigns for 3-4 years no more.
sooner than later those knee injuries (thanks Brown f*** you) will come to haunt him and any team signing him long term.
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Really?!

No way that’s enough IMO.

23yo LHD a need for LA signed to a great deal…has to be more I’d think. Maybe not 1st and pinelli more but gotta be more than just Vilardi and 2nd.

Although COL has a plethora of D men while LA has the center/wing depth so maybe.


Ideally Colorado asks for Turcotte. Turcotte + 2nd for Girard. But if you don’t want to include Turcotte. Vilardi + Faber + 2nd . Something like that but I still think Colorado only trades him if they’re getting a Turcotte
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11 nov. 2021 à 18 h 9
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the avs accept and get you drug tested and that hertl contract will look terrible down the line
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
tuch is barely better than a guy with 31 career points in his draft plus 5 season?


Yeah, I might have overstated that comparison by more than a little. His one good year without injury Vilardi recorded 0.4 points per game (roughly), and over his four full years, Tuch is at almost 0.6 PPG.

You're right.
11 nov. 2021 à 18 h 12
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My point exactly. Tuch is only slightly better now than Gabe but is injured, and Gabe may have a higher upside. Krebs is better than Pinelli by almost as much as Eichel is better than Girard, but even our 2023 first is likely to be better than Las Vegas' 2022 first. This is a huge overpay, and we don't need to do it.


I think Vilardi still has too much upside to consider trading him now. He hasn't reached his potential yet, and due to that fact, his trade value would be a fraction of what it should be. Unless the Kings feel like he's not going to figure out is game and decide to sell him for a loss, I don't think Vilardi is going anywhere.
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imo too girard wont cost that much. ideally a young top 6 winger with term.
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I see this as an overpay for Girard, but one that the Kings are in the position to make I suppose.

My confusion is Hertl being paid 8x7 on a team stacked at center and with bad blood against the Kings, I think the Kings would be the last place he'd want to go.
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11 nov. 2021 à 18 h 33
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I see this as an overpay for Girard, but one that the Kings are in the position to make I suppose.

My confusion is Hertl being paid 8x7 on a team stacked at center and with bad blood against the Kings, I think the Kings would be the last place he'd want to go.

Can always play the wing
11 nov. 2021 à 21 h 3
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Yeah I’m realizing that hertl contract is way too much by year 3 we’d all probably laugh at it. I’d pass on it. If he’d sign 5 years I’d be ok with that.
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