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Could Shane Wright could end up in Columbus as part of Seth Jones deal

Créé par: NHLfan10506
Date de création initiale: 11 nov. 2021
Publié: 11 nov. 2021
Équipe: 2021-22 Blue Jackets de Columbus
Explications
Read the 2022 pick condition on the trade: "*Conditions: If Chicago wins one of the the 2022 draft lotteries, the pick becomes their 2023 1st round pick"

The lottery rules change this year in that the maximum a team can jump is 10 spots. What if Chicago finishes dead last and two teams ranked between #12 and #16 win the lotteries?

Shane Wright --> Columbus

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Example

Imagine the final standings (in reverse order for 2022 draft)

1. Chicago
2. Arizona
3. Montreal
4. Ottawa
5. Seattle
6. Dallas
7. Vancouver
8. Pittsburgh
9. Detroit
10. Los Angeles
11. Nashville
12. Colorado
13. Anaheim
14. San Jose
15. Vegas
16. New Jersey

(actual teams don't matter...a lot of these are unlikely as final)

At the Lottery, San Jose wins the first lottery and jumps to pick #4. Colorado wins the second lottery and jumps to pick #2.

Here is the final draft order:

1. Columbus (via Chicago)
2. Arizona (via Colorado)
3. Arizona
4. San Jose
5. Montreal (pick is in top-10, so Arizona gets the Carolina pick)
6. Ottawa
7. Seattle
8. Dallas
9. Vancouver
10. Pittsburgh
11. Detroit
12. Los Angeles
13. Nashville
14. Anaheim
15. Vegas
16. New Jersey

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If I am reading that wrong, somebody say so.
But would certainly be an interesting scenario.
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      11 nov. 2021 à 14 h 39
      #1
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      I'll laugh my ass off if this happens
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      11 nov. 2021 à 14 h 42
      #2
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      I actually think the pick would still convey, as Chicago didn't win a lottery, should've top 2 protected it instead
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      11 nov. 2021 à 14 h 43
      #3
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      Even if we finish last we still have to "win the lottery" to get pick 1 or 2. Our odds would be the best, but we would still be in the lottery. Pick is the hawks if its one or two
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      11 nov. 2021 à 14 h 45
      #4
      Hockey247
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      Quoting: Wadejos123
      Even if we finish last we still have to "win the lottery" to get pick 1 or 2. Our odds would be the best, but we would still be in the lottery. Pick is the hawks if its one or two


      you guys are absolutely fuxked
      11 nov. 2021 à 14 h 46
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      Quoting: Wadejos123
      Even if we finish last we still have to "win the lottery" to get pick 1 or 2. Our odds would be the best, but we would still be in the lottery. Pick is the hawks if its one or two


      Except you don't win the lottery in this scenario technically
      11 nov. 2021 à 14 h 47
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      Quoting: Wadejos123
      Even if we finish last we still have to "win the lottery" to get pick 1 or 2. Our odds would be the best, but we would still be in the lottery. Pick is the hawks if its one or two


      If Blackhawks finish last, and teams between #12-16 win the two lotteries, I think the #1 overall pick goes to Columbus.
      It only switches to a 2023 pick if Chicago "wins" one of the lotteries. Not if pick is in top-2.
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      11 nov. 2021 à 14 h 48
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      Jeuck75
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      Imagine COL stays near the bottom of the standings all year and that 1st becomes the #1 pick and the Yotes pick is #2 so they end up getting the top 2 picks, lol
      11 nov. 2021 à 14 h 48
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      Really high on the Sabres eh?squinty smile
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      11 nov. 2021 à 14 h 48
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      wpg
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      I don’t think it’s that bad…..

      There r a few worse teams then CHI

      ARI, BUF and MTL for example

      It CHI doesn’t win the lotto their pick should be between 5-10

      Even with the off ice issues their team just isn’t that bad
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      11 nov. 2021 à 14 h 51
      #10
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      If this is the actual wording, you may have discovered the greatest example of GM malpractice in sports history.
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      11 nov. 2021 à 14 h 52
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      Quoting: OldNYIfan
      If this is the actual wording, you may have discovered the greatest example of GM malpractice in sports history.


      It is per CF. Chicago has protected the pick from winning the lottery
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      11 nov. 2021 à 14 h 53
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      sensonfire
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      Capfriendly misunderstood the condition on the pick, the answer is no.
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      11 nov. 2021 à 14 h 54
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      Quoting: Jeuck75
      Imagine COL stays near the bottom of the standings all year and that 1st becomes the #1 pick and the Yotes pick is #2 so they end up getting the top 2 picks, lol


      Even better. I just changed the example above...final order:

      1. Columbus (via Chicago)
      2. Arizona (via Colorado)
      3. Arizona
      4. San Jose
      5. Montreal
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      11 nov. 2021 à 14 h 55
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      Quoting: Jeuck75
      Imagine COL stays near the bottom of the standings all year and that 1st becomes the #1 pick and the Yotes pick is #2 so they end up getting the top 2 picks, lol


      Impossible tho ultimately

      Roster too good

      Funny that COL are the best example of a good team cratering randomly one season, but a lot was cal pickard and their roster was 1/2 as good Confused
      11 nov. 2021 à 14 h 56
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      The NHL press release states the pick is top 2 protected, not “lottery” protected. The “lottery” has always been conditioned as the top spots in the draft, and while the new system is more confusing, it still refers to the top 2 spots in the draft.
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      11 nov. 2021 à 14 h 57
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      Quoting: jnowariak
      The NHL press release states the pick is top 2 protected, not “lottery” protected. The “lottery” has always been conditioned as the top spots in the draft, and while the new system is more confusing, it still refers to the top 2 spots in the draft.


      Can you add a link for everyone to see?
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      11 nov. 2021 à 14 h 57
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      Quoting: NHLfan10506
      Even better. I just changed the example above...final order:

      1. Columbus (via Chicago)
      2. Arizona (via Colorado)
      3. Arizona
      4. San Jose
      5. Montreal


      lol
      11 nov. 2021 à 15 h 1
      #18
      sensonfire
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      Please see my post below.
      11 nov. 2021 à 15 h 1
      #19
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      I’d cry and never watch hockey again probably
      11 nov. 2021 à 15 h 3
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      Highly unlikely this happens, but I hope it does.
      11 nov. 2021 à 15 h 4
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      https://www.nhl.com/news/seth-jones-traded-to-blackhawks-by-blue-jackets/c-325758614


      It's top 2 protected.


      Capfriendly misunderstood the condition and needs a rewrite.
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      11 nov. 2021 à 15 h 14
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      Quoting: NHLfan10506
      Can you add a link for everyone to see?


      https://www.nhl.com/news/seth-jones-traded-to-blackhawks-by-blue-jackets/c-325758614

      4th paragraph.
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      11 nov. 2021 à 15 h 17
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      Quoting: A_Habs_fan
      Except you don't win the lottery in this scenario technically


      You do win the lottery; the lottery by definition is the lottery. No team can can't get any picks without the lottery taking place.
      11 nov. 2021 à 15 h 18
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      Quoting: Jeuck75
      lol


      Can't happen. Chicago protected the first two picks, doesn't matter how they get them.
      11 nov. 2021 à 15 h 21
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      Quoting: A_Habs_fan
      Except you don't win the lottery in this scenario technically


      Doesn't matter, the #1 and #2 picks are protected if they are Chicago's
       
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