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12 janv. 2022 à 13 h 16
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Quoting: TZ11
At the time, I considered it far too high. But looking at it now, I kinda understand it. I do think that at least Beniers should've been higher and an argument can be made for Clarke, Guenther and Johnson, but McTavish has exceeded my expectations and I do see why they ranked him that high. A bit too high, but it's not as "bad" of a placement as I thought it was back then.


Could be spot on, he looked so good on team Canada.
12 janv. 2022 à 13 h 49
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Yeah, i chuckled a bit while reading it, NHL CS is always a bit weird, they had McTavish at 2 for NA skater last year i think, no one else had him that high

I mean that's not that bad. I thought he would be a top 5 pick one way or another, the 2nd best centre in the draft usually goes pretty early. I think I had him at 5 to columbus in my mock draft because I figured anaheim would take a winger (could you imagine a sniper like guenther with zegras? Or the pure talent of a zegras+eklund combo?) and I probably would have had him at 4 or 5 in a pure ranking (big fan of guenther, I woulda for sure had him behind beniers/power as well, maybe behind one of hughes/clarke, I think I had him above johnson by that point), but yeah, they usually have way worse lol, like guys that don't get drafted in their top 30 and top 10 picks slipping outside of the top 20 on their individual list
12 janv. 2022 à 13 h 55
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NHL CS has released their midterm rankings and there are a couple of weird rankings https://www.nhl.com/news/shane-wright-tops-css-north-american-midterm-2022-nhl-draft-ranking/c-329677176 ( It's the article with the link to the NA S/G list and the EU S/G list )


If there is one thing I get from this class is everyone has a different opinion. But one thing is for sure, scouting is hard and far from objective. Projecting what 18 year olds will become in the NHL is soooooo hard. Nobody hits 100% of the time and I find some of the digs at Central Scouting kinda of ridiculous. It's ok for people to have a different take.
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12 janv. 2022 à 15 h 4
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If there is one thing I get from this class is everyone has a different opinion. But one thing is for sure, scouting is hard and far from objective. Projecting what 18 year olds will become in the NHL is soooooo hard. Nobody hits 100% of the time and I find some of the digs at Central Scouting kinda of ridiculous. It's ok for people to have a different take.


Yeah, there are some rankings that you can disagree with but still see their point and then there's some who just have very different takes that you have no idea where they came from, we probably all have some in the eyes of others
12 janv. 2022 à 15 h 12
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Yeah, there are some rankings that you can disagree with but still see their point and then there's some who just have very different takes that you have no idea where they came from, we probably all have some in the eyes of others


Ya, I’m just disappointed with some of the scouts I like to follow and respect. Seeing them take jabs, I’m just like, does your **** not smell or something.

There’s a couple of omissions or a guy ranked kinda low but nothing crazy.
12 janv. 2022 à 17 h 22
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https://twitter.com/brigstew86/status/1481355931795566598

Probs not gonna get it but still pretty cool

Wish he wasnt hurt last season as just imagine

Abrzzese vs. Caufield vs. Holloway vs. Pinto for the Baker

That would have been great.
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12 janv. 2022 à 21 h 4
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Yeah, i chuckled a bit while reading it, NHL CS is always a bit weird, they had McTavish at 2 for NA skater last year i think, no one else had him that high


Besides the Ducks
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12 janv. 2022 à 21 h 5
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Nice seeing Rieger Lorenz at 24 on CS
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13 janv. 2022 à 0 h 50
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My rough predictions for Wheeler's team prospect rankings. He does this based on U23 and non-NHL only. I'll also post some of their top prospects in brackets, completely at my own discretion and in no particular order, but it should hopefully be pretty much everyone even somewhat relevant lol
1. Buffalo Sabres (Power, Rosen, Peterka, Samuelsson, Ryan Johnson, Poltapov, Kisakov, Quinn, Portillo, UPL, Laaksonen, Krebs)
2. Minnesota Wild (Wallstedt, Rossi, Boldy, Khusnutdinov, Addison, O'Rourke, Hunt, Novak, Hunter Jones, Beckman, Peart, Lambos, Khovanov, Firstov, McBain)
3. New Jersey Devils (Holtz, Luke Hughes, Mukhamadullin, Daws, Pytlik, Chase Stillman, Okhotyuk, Graeme Clarke, Tyce Thompson, Walsh, Schmid, Bahl, Schnarr)
4. Los Angeles Kings (Turcotte, Byfield, Clarke, Pinelli, Helenius, Kirsanov, Grans, Faber, Simontaival, Laferriere, Chromiak, ****emo, Spence, Kupari, Akil Thomas, JAD, Vilardi, Madden)
5. Ottawa Senators (Sanderson, Greig, Jarventie, Kleven, Sokolov, Merilainen, Boucher, Roger, Ostapchuk, Oliver Johansson, Latimer, Reinhardt, Lassi Thomson, Guenette, Sogaard, Kastelic, JBD, Tychonick, Crookshank, Mandolese, Lodin, Parker Kelly)
6. Anaheim Ducks (McTavish, Zellweger, Pastujov, Hinds, Jacob Perreault, Colangelo, Nickl, Tracey, LaCombe, Thrun, Dostal, Axel Andersson, Elvenes)
7. Carolina Hurricanes (Heimosalmi, Scott Morrow, Koivunen, Hamrla, Quapp, Justin Robidas, Jackson Blake, Gunler, Ponomarev, Nikishin, Nybeck, Pashin, Seeley, Ryan Suzuki, Kochetkov, Rees, Puistola, Anttoni Honka, Jack Drury, Makiniemi, Keane, Bokk)
8. New York Rangers (Schneider, Zac Jones, Othmann, Ryder Korczak, Cuylle, Boyko, Garand, Brett Berard, Matthew Robertson, Henriksson, Kravtsov, Pajuniemi, Lindbom)
9. Calgary Flames (Coronato, Pelletier, Zary, Wolf, Ruzicka, Stromgren, Huckins, Whynot, Heineman, Poirier, Yan Kuznetsov, Boltmann, Ryan Francis, Pospisil, Zavgorodniy, MEP)
10. Columbus Blue Jackets (Ceulemans, Johnson, Svozil, Knazko, L. Foudy, Marchenko, Berni, Tarasov, TFW, Angle)
11. Detroit Red Wings (Edvinsson, Cossa, Viro, Sebrango, Albert Johansson, McIsaac, Berggren, Bednar, Buium, Mastrosimone, Mazur, Niederbach, Savage, Soderblom, Wallinder, Hanas, Tuomisto, Kienan Draper)
12. Nashville Predators (Askarov, Tomasino, Svechkov, L'Heureux, Glass, Olsson, Ufko, Evangelista, Prokop, Afanasyev, Farrance, Knak, Parssinen)
13. Winnipeg Jets (Heinola, Lucius, Chibrikov, Perfetti, Kuzmin, Torgersson, Lundmark, Gustafsson, Chisholm, Nathan Smith, Samberg)
14. Edmonton Oilers (Broberg, Bourgault, Holloway, Petrov, Munzenberger, Tullio, Lavoie, Savoie, Rodrigue, Samorukov)
15. Toronto Maple Leafs (Niemela, Knies, Hirvonen, Robertson, Amirov, Kokkonen, Abramov, Abruzzese, SDA, Hollowell, Holmberg)
16. San Jose Sharks (Eklund, Wiesblatt, Bordeleau, Benjamin Gaudreau, Robins, Gushchin, Coe, Kniazev, Raska, Ryan Merkley, Chmelevski, Hatakka)
17.Dallas Stars (Johnston, Bourque, Harley, Stankoven, Grushnikov, Martino, Bar, Arcuri, Stranges, Dellandrea, Damiani)
18. Arizona Coyotes (Guenther, Soderstrom, Maccelli, Kirk, Jenik, Prosvetov, Moser, Josh Doan, Farinacci, Aku Raty, Kolyachonok)
19. Montreal Canadiens (Guhle, Mailloux??, Kidney, Kapanen, Vrbetic, Roy, Luke Tuch, Farrell, Mysak, Struble, Norlinder, Ylonen, Harris, Brook, Primeau, Fairbrother)
20. Colorado Avalanche (Olausson, Behrens, Annunen, Barron, Ranta, Bowers, JL Foudy, Kaut, Helleson, Stienburg, Taylor Makar)
21. Vegas Golden Knights (Dean, Chayka, Brisson, Cormier, Kaedan Korczak, Dorofeyev, Morozov)
22. St. Louis Blues (Bolduc, Neighbours, Robertsson, Peterson, Hofer)
23. Florida Panthers (Samoskevich, Smilanic, Sourdif, Michael Benning, Nause, Denisenko, Noel)
24. Philadelphia Flyers (York, Tuomalaa, Frost, Foerster, Andrae, Wisdom, Desnoyers, Brink)
25. Chicago Blackhawks (Allan, Colton Dach, Reichel, Commesso, Vlasic, Slaggert, Teply, Beaudin, Mitchell, Demin)
26. Boston Bruins (Lysell, Studnicka, Beecher, Lauko, Vaakanainen
27. Washington Capitals (Lapierre, Alexeyev, Iorio, Leason, Brent Johnson)
28. Pittsburgh Penguins (Poulin, POJ, Blomqvist, Clang, Legare, Hallander, Broz, Gruden)
29. Vancouver Canucks (Klimovich, Jurmo, DiPietro, Rathbone, Woo)
30. Tampa Bay Lightning (Alnefelt, Duke, Finley, Goncalves, Schmidt, Thompson, Cajkovic, posted today, had them here when I was drafting this)
31. New York Islanders (Raty, Dufour, Bolduc, Iskhakov, Holmstrom, Lennox, already posted by him, woulda had them here with a minute's research into the age of Salo/Koivula/Bellows)
32. Seattle Kraken (Beniers, Evans, Winterton, Henman, the guys they picked in rounds 4-7 are the only other prospects they have lol, already posted by him, was obvious)
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13 janv. 2022 à 1 h 9
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My rough predictions for Wheeler's team prospect rankings. He does this based on U23 and non-NHL only. I'll also post some of their top prospects in brackets, completely at my own discretion and in no particular order, but it should hopefully be pretty much everyone even somewhat relevant lol
1. Buffalo Sabres (Power, Rosen, Peterka, Samuelsson, Ryan Johnson, Poltapov, Kisakov, Quinn, Portillo, UPL, Laaksonen, Krebs)
2. Minnesota Wild (Wallstedt, Rossi, Boldy, Khusnutdinov, Addison, O'Rourke, Hunt, Novak, Hunter Jones, Beckman, Peart, Lambos, Khovanov, Firstov, McBain)
3. New Jersey Devils (Holtz, Luke Hughes, Mukhamadullin, Daws, Pytlik, Chase Stillman, Okhotyuk, Graeme Clarke, Tyce Thompson, Walsh, Schmid, Bahl, Schnarr)
4. Los Angeles Kings (Turcotte, Byfield, Clarke, Pinelli, Helenius, Kirsanov, Grans, Faber, Simontaival, Laferriere, Chromiak, ****emo, Spence, Kupari, Akil Thomas, JAD, Vilardi, Madden)
5. Ottawa Senators (Sanderson, Greig, Jarventie, Kleven, Sokolov, Merilainen, Boucher, Roger, Ostapchuk, Oliver Johansson, Latimer, Reinhardt, Lassi Thomson, Guenette, Sogaard, Kastelic, JBD, Tychonick, Crookshank, Mandolese, Lodin, Parker Kelly)
6. Anaheim Ducks (McTavish, Zellweger, Pastujov, Hinds, Jacob Perreault, Colangelo, Nickl, Tracey, LaCombe, Thrun, Dostal, Axel Andersson, Elvenes)
7. Carolina Hurricanes (Heimosalmi, Scott Morrow, Koivunen, Hamrla, Quapp, Justin Robidas, Jackson Blake, Gunler, Ponomarev, Nikishin, Nybeck, Pashin, Seeley, Ryan Suzuki, Kochetkov, Rees, Puistola, Anttoni Honka, Jack Drury, Makiniemi, Keane, Bokk)
8. New York Rangers (Schneider, Zac Jones, Othmann, Ryder Korczak, Cuylle, Boyko, Garand, Brett Berard, Matthew Robertson, Henriksson, Kravtsov, Pajuniemi, Lindbom)
9. Calgary Flames (Coronato, Pelletier, Zary, Wolf, Ruzicka, Stromgren, Huckins, Whynot, Heineman, Poirier, Yan Kuznetsov, Boltmann, Ryan Francis, Pospisil, Zavgorodniy, MEP)
10. Columbus Blue Jackets (Ceulemans, Johnson, Svozil, Knazko, L. Foudy, Marchenko, Berni, Tarasov, TFW, Angle)
11. Detroit Red Wings (Edvinsson, Cossa, Viro, Sebrango, Albert Johansson, McIsaac, Berggren, Bednar, Buium, Mastrosimone, Mazur, Niederbach, Savage, Soderblom, Wallinder, Hanas, Tuomisto, Kienan Draper)
12. Nashville Predators (Askarov, Tomasino, Svechkov, L'Heureux, Glass, Olsson, Ufko, Evangelista, Prokop, Afanasyev, Farrance, Knak, Parssinen)
13. Winnipeg Jets (Heinola, Lucius, Chibrikov, Perfetti, Kuzmin, Torgersson, Lundmark, Gustafsson, Chisholm, Nathan Smith, Samberg)
14. Edmonton Oilers (Broberg, Bourgault, Holloway, Petrov, Munzenberger, Tullio, Lavoie, Savoie, Rodrigue, Samorukov)
15. Toronto Maple Leafs (Niemela, Knies, Hirvonen, Robertson, Amirov, Kokkonen, Abramov, Abruzzese, SDA, Hollowell, Holmberg)
16. San Jose Sharks (Eklund, Wiesblatt, Bordeleau, Benjamin Gaudreau, Robins, Gushchin, Coe, Kniazev, Raska, Ryan Merkley, Chmelevski, Hatakka)
17.Dallas Stars (Johnston, Bourque, Harley, Stankoven, Grushnikov, Martino, Bar, Arcuri, Stranges, Dellandrea, Damiani)
18. Arizona Coyotes (Guenther, Soderstrom, Maccelli, Kirk, Jenik, Prosvetov, Moser, Josh Doan, Farinacci, Aku Raty, Kolyachonok)
19. Montreal Canadiens (Guhle, Mailloux??, Kidney, Kapanen, Vrbetic, Roy, Luke Tuch, Farrell, Mysak, Struble, Norlinder, Ylonen, Harris, Brook, Primeau, Fairbrother)
20. Colorado Avalanche (Olausson, Behrens, Annunen, Barron, Ranta, Bowers, JL Foudy, Kaut, Helleson, Stienburg, Taylor Makar)
21. Vegas Golden Knights (Dean, Chayka, Brisson, Cormier, Kaedan Korczak, Dorofeyev, Morozov)
22. St. Louis Blues (Bolduc, Neighbours, Robertsson, Peterson, Hofer)
23. Florida Panthers (Samoskevich, Smilanic, Sourdif, Michael Benning, Nause, Denisenko, Noel)
24. Philadelphia Flyers (York, Tuomalaa, Frost, Foerster, Andrae, Wisdom, Desnoyers, Brink)
25. Chicago Blackhawks (Allan, Colton Dach, Reichel, Commesso, Vlasic, Slaggert, Teply, Beaudin, Mitchell, Demin)
26. Boston Bruins (Lysell, Studnicka, Beecher, Lauko, Vaakanainen
27. Washington Capitals (Lapierre, Alexeyev, Iorio, Leason, Brent Johnson)
28. Pittsburgh Penguins (Poulin, POJ, Blomqvist, Clang, Legare, Hallander, Broz, Gruden)
29. Vancouver Canucks (Klimovich, Jurmo, DiPietro, Rathbone, Woo)
30. Tampa Bay Lightning (Alnefelt, Duke, Finley, Goncalves, Schmidt, Thompson, Cajkovic, posted today, had them here when I was drafting this)
31. New York Islanders (Raty, Dufour, Bolduc, Iskhakov, Holmstrom, Lennox, already posted by him, woulda had them here with a minute's research into the age of Salo/Koivula/Bellows)
32. Seattle Kraken (Beniers, Evans, Winterton, Henman, the guys they picked in rounds 4-7 are the only other prospects they have lol, already posted by him, was obvious)


Interesting

If you need it this was the September list someone shared on Reddit

1. Buffalo Sabres

2. Carolina Hurricanes

3. Ottawa Senators

4. New York Rangers

5. Los Angeles Kings

6. New Jersey Devils

7. Vancouver Canucks

8. Colorado Avalanche

9. Detroit Red Wings

10. Anaheim Ducks

11. Dallas Stars

12. Montreal Canadiens

13. Columbus Blue Jackets

14. Arizona Coyotes

15. Minnesota Wild

16. Nashville Predators

17. Philadelphia Flyers

18. Florida Panthers

19. Vegas Golden Knights

20. Winnipeg Jets

21. Toronto Maple Leafs

22. San Jose Sharks

23. Chicago Blackhawks

24. St. Louis Blues

25. Edmonton Oilers

26. Calgary Flames

27. New York Islanders

28. Washington Capitals

29. Boston Bruins

30. Tampa Bay Lightning

31. Pittsburgh Penguins

32. Seattle Kraken
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13 janv. 2022 à 1 h 23
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My rough predictions for Wheeler's team prospect rankings. He does this based on U23 and non-NHL only. I'll also post some of their top prospects in brackets, completely at my own discretion and in no particular order, but it should hopefully be pretty much everyone even somewhat relevant lol
1. Buffalo Sabres (Power, Rosen, Peterka, Samuelsson, Ryan Johnson, Poltapov, Kisakov, Quinn, Portillo, UPL, Laaksonen, Krebs)
2. Minnesota Wild (Wallstedt, Rossi, Boldy, Khusnutdinov, Addison, O'Rourke, Hunt, Novak, Hunter Jones, Beckman, Peart, Lambos, Khovanov, Firstov, McBain)
3. New Jersey Devils (Holtz, Luke Hughes, Mukhamadullin, Daws, Pytlik, Chase Stillman, Okhotyuk, Graeme Clarke, Tyce Thompson, Walsh, Schmid, Bahl, Schnarr)
4. Los Angeles Kings (Turcotte, Byfield, Clarke, Pinelli, Helenius, Kirsanov, Grans, Faber, Simontaival, Laferriere, Chromiak, ****emo, Spence, Kupari, Akil Thomas, JAD, Vilardi, Madden)
5. Ottawa Senators (Sanderson, Greig, Jarventie, Kleven, Sokolov, Merilainen, Boucher, Roger, Ostapchuk, Oliver Johansson, Latimer, Reinhardt, Lassi Thomson, Guenette, Sogaard, Kastelic, JBD, Tychonick, Crookshank, Mandolese, Lodin, Parker Kelly)
6. Anaheim Ducks (McTavish, Zellweger, Pastujov, Hinds, Jacob Perreault, Colangelo, Nickl, Tracey, LaCombe, Thrun, Dostal, Axel Andersson, Elvenes)
7. Carolina Hurricanes (Heimosalmi, Scott Morrow, Koivunen, Hamrla, Quapp, Justin Robidas, Jackson Blake, Gunler, Ponomarev, Nikishin, Nybeck, Pashin, Seeley, Ryan Suzuki, Kochetkov, Rees, Puistola, Anttoni Honka, Jack Drury, Makiniemi, Keane, Bokk)
8. New York Rangers (Schneider, Zac Jones, Othmann, Ryder Korczak, Cuylle, Boyko, Garand, Brett Berard, Matthew Robertson, Henriksson, Kravtsov, Pajuniemi, Lindbom)
9. Calgary Flames (Coronato, Pelletier, Zary, Wolf, Ruzicka, Stromgren, Huckins, Whynot, Heineman, Poirier, Yan Kuznetsov, Boltmann, Ryan Francis, Pospisil, Zavgorodniy, MEP)
10. Columbus Blue Jackets (Ceulemans, Johnson, Svozil, Knazko, L. Foudy, Marchenko, Berni, Tarasov, TFW, Angle)
11. Detroit Red Wings (Edvinsson, Cossa, Viro, Sebrango, Albert Johansson, McIsaac, Berggren, Bednar, Buium, Mastrosimone, Mazur, Niederbach, Savage, Soderblom, Wallinder, Hanas, Tuomisto, Kienan Draper)
12. Nashville Predators (Askarov, Tomasino, Svechkov, L'Heureux, Glass, Olsson, Ufko, Evangelista, Prokop, Afanasyev, Farrance, Knak, Parssinen)
13. Winnipeg Jets (Heinola, Lucius, Chibrikov, Perfetti, Kuzmin, Torgersson, Lundmark, Gustafsson, Chisholm, Nathan Smith, Samberg)
14. Edmonton Oilers (Broberg, Bourgault, Holloway, Petrov, Munzenberger, Tullio, Lavoie, Savoie, Rodrigue, Samorukov)
15. Toronto Maple Leafs (Niemela, Knies, Hirvonen, Robertson, Amirov, Kokkonen, Abramov, Abruzzese, SDA, Hollowell, Holmberg)
16. San Jose Sharks (Eklund, Wiesblatt, Bordeleau, Benjamin Gaudreau, Robins, Gushchin, Coe, Kniazev, Raska, Ryan Merkley, Chmelevski, Hatakka)
17.Dallas Stars (Johnston, Bourque, Harley, Stankoven, Grushnikov, Martino, Bar, Arcuri, Stranges, Dellandrea, Damiani)
18. Arizona Coyotes (Guenther, Soderstrom, Maccelli, Kirk, Jenik, Prosvetov, Moser, Josh Doan, Farinacci, Aku Raty, Kolyachonok)
19. Montreal Canadiens (Guhle, Mailloux??, Kidney, Kapanen, Vrbetic, Roy, Luke Tuch, Farrell, Mysak, Struble, Norlinder, Ylonen, Harris, Brook, Primeau, Fairbrother)
20. Colorado Avalanche (Olausson, Behrens, Annunen, Barron, Ranta, Bowers, JL Foudy, Kaut, Helleson, Stienburg, Taylor Makar)
21. Vegas Golden Knights (Dean, Chayka, Brisson, Cormier, Kaedan Korczak, Dorofeyev, Morozov)
22. St. Louis Blues (Bolduc, Neighbours, Robertsson, Peterson, Hofer)
23. Florida Panthers (Samoskevich, Smilanic, Sourdif, Michael Benning, Nause, Denisenko, Noel)
24. Philadelphia Flyers (York, Tuomalaa, Frost, Foerster, Andrae, Wisdom, Desnoyers, Brink)
25. Chicago Blackhawks (Allan, Colton Dach, Reichel, Commesso, Vlasic, Slaggert, Teply, Beaudin, Mitchell, Demin)
26. Boston Bruins (Lysell, Studnicka, Beecher, Lauko, Vaakanainen
27. Washington Capitals (Lapierre, Alexeyev, Iorio, Leason, Brent Johnson)
28. Pittsburgh Penguins (Poulin, POJ, Blomqvist, Clang, Legare, Hallander, Broz, Gruden)
29. Vancouver Canucks (Klimovich, Jurmo, DiPietro, Rathbone, Woo)
30. Tampa Bay Lightning (Alnefelt, Duke, Finley, Goncalves, Schmidt, Thompson, Cajkovic, posted today, had them here when I was drafting this)
31. New York Islanders (Raty, Dufour, Bolduc, Iskhakov, Holmstrom, Lennox, already posted by him, woulda had them here with a minute's research into the age of Salo/Koivula/Bellows)
32. Seattle Kraken (Beniers, Evans, Winterton, Henman, the guys they picked in rounds 4-7 are the only other prospects they have lol, already posted by him, was obvious)


I'd say Moore, McLaughlin > Hinds, Nickl, Andersson for the Ducks. But nevertheless good list and I agree with most of these placements.
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13 janv. 2022 à 1 h 24
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Interesting

If you need it this was the September list someone shared on Reddit

1. Buffalo Sabres

2. Carolina Hurricanes

3. Ottawa Senators

4. New York Rangers

5. Los Angeles Kings

6. New Jersey Devils

7. Vancouver Canucks

8. Colorado Avalanche

9. Detroit Red Wings

10. Anaheim Ducks

11. Dallas Stars

12. Montreal Canadiens

13. Columbus Blue Jackets

14. Arizona Coyotes

15. Minnesota Wild

16. Nashville Predators

17. Philadelphia Flyers

18. Florida Panthers

19. Vegas Golden Knights

20. Winnipeg Jets

21. Toronto Maple Leafs

22. San Jose Sharks

23. Chicago Blackhawks

24. St. Louis Blues

25. Edmonton Oilers

26. Calgary Flames

27. New York Islanders

28. Washington Capitals

29. Boston Bruins

30. Tampa Bay Lightning

31. Pittsburgh Penguins

32. Seattle Kraken

I mean I'll take it of course, but Seattle, Buffalo, and NYI are super obvious imo. Tampa isn't super clear, but imo it's a set below Pittsburgh/Vancouver just by best prospect (I wonder which one of them are #29), they have slightly more depth but I'll take one 1st or 2nd round quality prospect over three 4th round level prospects. Looking at it again I wanna swap Florida and Philly lol. I also wonder how much Wheeler takes into account depth vs. top prospect(s), because for example, when comparing the Preds and Wings, I think the Wings have pretty clearly the 2 best prospects (and Edvinsson in particular looks elite, compared to just good for the rest), and Nashville probably has the next 5, and then Detroit has a higher quantity of good prospects. So that's another one that's pretty close. Another example is where to rank Carolina, because they don't have a super high end prospect (their best is probably Suzuki then Morrow) but they have so many good prospects that it might push them past teams with a few higher end prospects (like CBJ has Johnson and Marchenko, but not nearly as much depth).
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13 janv. 2022 à 1 h 25
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8. Colorado Avalanche

9. Detroit Red Wings

10. Anaheim Ducks

11. Dallas Stars

12. Montreal Canadiens

13. Columbus Blue Jackets

14. Arizona Coyotes

15. Minnesota Wild


Were these the real September rankings from the Athletic? Why did they rank Colorado > Anaheim? Anaheim even still had Zegras and Drysdale in their pool here. Minnesota and Winnipeg are too low as well.
13 janv. 2022 à 1 h 27
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Were these the real September rankings from the Athletic? Why did they rank Colorado > Anaheim? Anaheim even still had Zegras and Drysdale in their pool here. Minnesota and Winnipeg are too low as well.


Yep these were the rankings

Told yah they would be puzzling lul
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Were these the real September rankings from the Athletic? Why did they rank Colorado > Anaheim? Anaheim even still had Zegras and Drysdale in their pool here. Minnesota and Winnipeg are too low as well.

Probably had Newhook+Byram.
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Probably had Newhook+Byram.


Makar I believe was what made the rank go higher as he was #1 followed by Byram and Newhook

Anaheim's was Zegras, Drysdale, Mctavish

So I can kind of see why he ranked Colorado higher
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Makar I believe was what made the rank go higher as he was #1 followed by Byram and Newhook

Anaheim's was Zegras, Drysdale, Mctavish

So I can kind of see why he ranked Colorado higher

Oh that was probably Pronman's pipeline rankings (all U23 players, including NHLers). Wheeler's is the prospect pool rankings (U23 and only non-NHLers).
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Oh that was probably Pronman's pipeline rankings (all U23 players, including NHLers). Wheeler's is the prospect pool rankings (U23 and only non-NHLers).


Its funny though as the list says non-nhlers for September and Makar somehow made the list tears of joy

Like this was either an error or its gone unnoticed

Anyways lets hope this upcoming list is better

3 teams down 29 to go and 30 more days or something for all to be added and the list complete
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Oh that was probably Pronman's pipeline rankings (all U23 players, including NHLers). Wheeler's is the prospect pool rankings (U23 and only non-NHLers).


Then It makes sense. Because if it was only prospects, I would've taken McTavish, Zegras, Drysdale, etc. > Byram, Newhook, Barron / Olausson, etc. any day of the week.
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Quoting: aadoyle
Interesting

If you need it this was the September list someone shared on Reddit

1. Buffalo Sabres

2. Carolina Hurricanes

3. Ottawa Senators

4. New York Rangers

5. Los Angeles Kings

6. New Jersey Devils

7. Vancouver Canucks

8. Colorado Avalanche

9. Detroit Red Wings

10. Anaheim Ducks

11. Dallas Stars

12. Montreal Canadiens

13. Columbus Blue Jackets

14. Arizona Coyotes

15. Minnesota Wild

16. Nashville Predators

17. Philadelphia Flyers

18. Florida Panthers

19. Vegas Golden Knights

20. Winnipeg Jets

21. Toronto Maple Leafs

22. San Jose Sharks

23. Chicago Blackhawks

24. St. Louis Blues

25. Edmonton Oilers

26. Calgary Flames

27. New York Islanders

28. Washington Capitals

29. Boston Bruins

30. Tampa Bay Lightning

31. Pittsburgh Penguins

32. Seattle Kraken


This was a pipeline+ under 23 Cores list.
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This was a pipeline+ under 23 Cores list.


There was another besides pipeline that had only prospects but somehow included Makar lul. Its weird

Pipelines had Necas and stuff while this other list had Carolina higher due to Jarvis
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I think were gonna see a tonne of steals come out of the 2021 draft

As man if guys like Voit were being taken in the 5th round

Teams are getting 2nd round prospects mainly due to them not being able to play cause of Covid
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Wheelers list update per reddit

Penguins are next after Tampa, Islander, and Kraken

So rn

29. Penguins
30. Tampa
31. Islanders
32. Kraken
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Wheelers list update per reddit

Penguins are next after Tampa, Islander, and Kraken

So rn

29. Penguins
30. Tampa
31. Islanders
32. Kraken

Damn, my first one wrong. Shoulda stuck with my gut lol. I guess he likes Klimovich and Rathbone more than Poulin and the Pens goalie prospects.
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Damn, my first one wrong. Shoulda stuck with my gut lol. I guess he likes Klimovich and Rathbone more than Poulin and the Pens goalie prospects.


Honestly I hate its 1 a day. Just post 3 a day to save time lul

As my day 20 people will be going insane
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