What?? Poehling is a poor skater with a 3rd line ceiling he very well may not reach.

That's priceless.

You should speak to the several scouts at Laval's games that really like his skating. He is a lot faster than most give him credit for. Not saying he is Paul Byron speed, but much faster than Dvorak. He has the projection to be a 2nd line Centre. Not saying he will be that, just saying he projects there. He may only be a 3rd line Centre. But do not judge on todays game. He will be playing on 4th and not with offensive players. This is projection talk here.

I disagree... I think his value is inflated by contrast with the rest of OTT D prospects. He's got Sami Niku vibes... were hes got offensive flair, but not enough to overcome his defensive shortcoming.

Les 2 club ne fit pas vraiment pour un échange

Sérieusement, en tenant compte des contrats, les seuls joueurs que j'aimerais acquérir de Montréal sont :

Nick Suzuki : pour avoir Pinto/Norris/Suzuki 3-headed monster

Tyler Toffoli : bon vétéran "stop gap" pour entourer les jeunes

Jake Evans : pour être centre de 4ème trio

Jeff Petry : il est RD ce dont Ottawa a besoin mais je donnerais pas la lune non plus (Brannstrom, Zaitsev, 2nd round pick + prospect ???)

Joel Edmundson : Serait LD sur 3ème paire après l'arrivée de Jake Sanderson, donc ne pourrait pas donner bcp non plus... Mete +?

Jesse Ylönen : RW donc intérêt pour Ottawa, un des rares prospects de MTL que j'aime bien. Je ferais p-e Brannstrom contre Ylonen + MTL 2nd




Poehling is a good skater but can't see him being more than a 4th liner at the NHL level.



Very inaccurate scouting report if that's one. Also, Ottawa has several very good prospects on top of Chabot/Zub who are 24 and 25 y/o

Jake Sanderson
Jacob Bernard-Docker
Tyler Kleven
Lassi Thomson
Erik Brannstrom

and a few interesting others but these are the main ones and also the reason why Brannstrom has no future in Ottawa (Chabot/Sanderson/Kleven on LD)

Feel free to pass on a link where anyone says he's a strong skater. Or in any way fast.

At best hes a 3rd line centre. If you take away that fluke of a first nhl game, hes's probably one of the most disappointing picks from that 2017 first round.

I'd much rather hedge my bets on Brannstrom panning out, especially considering that his ceiling is higher. Sure, his floor might be lower than Poehling's but I'll take the high/ low guy every time over the guaranteed 4th liner.

from 2017 scouting report prior to the NHL draft:

Skating

Poehling is a good skater. He has decent speed and acceleration, but it could be improved with some slight alterations to his stride. He has good size and uses his speed to get in quickly on the forecheck, looking to pressure defenders and cause mistakes. Poehling has good lower body strength and balance. He is tough to knock off the puck, especially when working down low. He also is very good in puck battles. Poehling has the power to fight through checks and continue to the front of the net. His lateral agility and edgework are decent for a player with his size.

This was written April 14th 2017. He has improved his skating since. If you do not like him, that is fine, but he is not a slow skater. He is still learning the game and will keep improving.

"hes's probably one of the most disappointing picks from that 2017 first round". it is still way too early for this type of language. He was drafted 25th out of 31. 7 players from the 1st round are below him and only 35% of that entire draft class have played 1 game in the NHL. Ryan has progressed well and learnt a lot about himself. Not saying he is Hall of fame material but he is not one of the most disappointing of the 2017 draft.

I’ve never watched Brannstrom at the NHL level even 1 game and thought he doesn’t belong. He’s an elite PP QB and was on pace for 35pts last year over 82 games as a 21 year old. He’s become incredibly underrated. The only reasons there’s talks of him being available in a trade is because of the Sens drafting Sanderson and Kleven and also having Lassi and JBD on the right side as well as the emergence of Zub. We need more forward prospects , a good one and that’s where Brannstrom has become available. He’s not even close to a throwaway prospect or anything close to that. He’s our 3rd best Dman right now

Elite PP QB had 3.3 PTS / 60 last year in 54 minutes lol...

Victor Mete also had 3.3 PTS / 60 as a rookie with MTL in 73 minutes is he an elite PP QB too?

Calling Brannstrom an elite PP QB is laughable right now... he is unproven, you cannot make that claim. Does he have potential? Sure, but you cannot possibly say Branstrom is an elite PP QB when he hasn't even established a role in the NHL yet at 22 years old. If he truly was elite he'd be running OTT's PP already.

Heh. Four-and-a-half years ago, playing against college players. And who wrote this exactly?

NHL Central Scouting puts out a draft list and this was written with regards to Ryan Poehling. As a scout I had access to it and still have the copy of it. And scouting is always about projections. You try to project where the player may end up in 5 years. He is on tract. He is projected as a 2nd or 3rd line Centre. He was never mentioned as a 1st or 4th.

Projections change over 4 1/2 years, guy. The fact that you opted for a projection from 2017 speaks volumes.

obviously. I would not have last in coaching for 23 years or as a paid scout for the past 7 years, if I did not know that!

Coolio. Then you surely know more recent reports all list him as a below average skater. And that the positive parts of his skating tend to be tied to his effort level and not his actual stride.

I am actually getting ready to watch a game. Your profile pic is Ryan O'Reilly. I know him extremely well, as he was in my summer camps. Great family! In the summer he still stops in to get his favourite meal from my wife. Anyways, take care! all the best!

Yeah, you have a good one, as well - but that's Alex Pietrangelo in my profile pic.

no way, you are absolutely correct. Alex is from King City. Another good guy from a great family. We met a few times, but he was never in any of my camps.

Best!

I cant tell from your answer whether or not you're agreeing with me because your last comment referenced the entire draft (which I never did) but 100% he's one of the most disappointing picks from that first round and it's not too early to say that because whether or not he's reached his full potential we can always compare him to the other picks in his class.

Every single one of the 24 players taken ahead of him has shown more than he has but if you want to compare him to the 6 other players that you referenced, he's pulling up the rear as the second worst or outright worst of the group. 1-Tolvanen 2-Frost 3-Oettinger 4-Joki 5-Kostin 6/7-Poehling/Bowers.

Obviously not the be all and end all but Corey Pronman had him dropping out of the first round from 25th to 36th in the redraft that he published recently. He is still in the "projected middle of the lineup" category but the fact of the matter is that he doesnt receive a 1st round grade anymore. There are multiple 2nd, 3rd and even 4th round picks that have already proven to be much better than Poehling. By comparison, Brannstrom only drops from 15th to 22nd, in the same "projected middle of the lineup" category but still holding a 1st round grade. I'll take a potential 2nd pair defenceman over a potential 3rd line centre and it seems Pronman would agree.

To address what you're saying about the draft as a whole, where he was drafted matters, for a 1st round pick he's been disappointing but if he was picked in the 7th then he'd be a relative steal as someone who has had okay production at the AHL level. But again he doesn't stack up well against the other first round picks from his draft and has done nothing to confirm he was worthy of his draft position. He's also been passed by multiple 2nd, 3rd and even 4th round picks. That's a disappointment and I'm sure if Montreal could have a do over he would not be the pick.

He was 71% on faceoffs and I liked his game. Montreal is thin at Centre with 10 dmen on their way.

Montréal à un surplus de défenseur gaucher et un manque de centres pourquoi le CH voudrait faire cette échange?