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Chiarot value at TDL

Créé par: OlegP
Date de création initiale: 9 nov. 2021
Publié: 9 nov. 2021
Équipe: 2021-22 Canadiens de Montréal
Explications
Benny has many goals on the Habs as anyone not named Mike Hoffman. Best plus/minus on the blueline. Shooting, and hitting a ton. 1st pair in the playoffs with not just Montreal but in the past with Winnipeg. Big, mean, grit, intangibles, all that mumbo jumbo that GMs love.

If whomever plays GM for the Habs plays their cards right then this should be a bigger return than what David Savard got last season with a 1st and 3rd rounder.
Transactions
1.
MTL
  1. Liljegren, Timothy
  2. 2022 1e round pick (TOR)
TOR
  1. Chiarot, Ben
2.
MTL
  1. Lavoie, Raphael
EDM
  1. Lehkonen, Artturi (1 150 000 $ retained)
3.
MTL
  1. 2022 3e round pick (CGY)
BOS
  1. Perreault, Mathieu
4.
MTL
  1. 2022 7e round pick (VAN)
VAN
  1. Paquette, Cédric
Détails additionnels:
anywhere
5.
MTL
  1. McNabb, Brayden
VGK
    Futures
    6.
    MTL
    1. 2022 5e round pick (FLA)
    FLA
    1. Wideman, Chris
    Rachats de contrats
    • Karl Alzner: 1 958 333 $
    Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
    • Artturi Lehkonen: 1 150 000 $ (50%)
    ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
    2022
    CAR
    TOR
    MTL
    MTL
    ANA
    CAR
    CGY
    MTL
    TBL
    MTL
    FLA
    MTL
    MTL
    STL
    VAN
    2023
    MTL
    MTL
    MTL
    MTL
    MTL
    MTL
    MTL
    2024
    MTL
    MTL
    MTL
    MTL
    MTL
    MTL
    TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
    2381 500 000 $78 657 560 $597 561 $1 875 000 $2 842 440 $
    Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
    MTL
    Toffoli, Tyler
    4 250 000 $
    AG, AD
    UFA - 3
    MTL
    Suzuki, Nick
    863 333 $
    C, AD
    UFA - 1
    MTL
    Gallagher, Brendan
    6 500 000 $
    AD
    NMC NTC
    UFA - 6
    MTL
    Drouin, Jonathan
    5 500 000 $
    AG, AD, C
    NTC
    UFA - 2
    MTL
    Dvorak, Christian
    4 450 000 $
    C, AG
    UFA - 4
    MTL
    Anderson, Josh
    5 500 000 $
    AD, AG
    NTC
    UFA - 6
    MTL
    Byron, Paul
    3 400 000 $
    AG, AD, C
    UFA - 2
    MTL
    Brooks, Adam
    725 000 $
    C
    RFA - 1
    MTL
    Caufield, Cole
    880 833 $
    AD, AG
    RFA - 2
    MTL
    Armia, Joel
    3 400 000 $
    AD, AG
    UFA - 4
    MTL
    Evans, Jake
    750 000 $
    C, AD
    UFA - 1
    MTL
    Hoffman, Mike
    4 500 000 $
    AG, AD
    UFA - 3
    Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
    MTL
    Edmundson, Joel
    3 500 000 $
    DG
    NTC
    UFA - 3
    MTL
    Petry, Jeff
    6 250 000 $
    DD
    NMC NTC
    UFA - 4
    MTL
    Price, Carey
    10 500 000 $
    G
    NMC
    UFA - 5
    MTL
    Romanov, Alexander
    894 167 $
    DG
    RFA - 1
    MTL
    Savard, David
    3 500 000 $
    DD
    UFA - 4
    MTL
    Allen, Jake
    2 875 000 $
    G
    UFA - 2
    VGK
    McNabb, Brayden
    2 500 000 $
    DG
    UFA - 1
    MTL
    Kulak, Brett
    1 850 000 $
    DG
    UFA - 1
    Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
    MTL
    Niku, Sami
    750 000 $
    DG/DD
    RFA - 1
    MTL
    Weber, Shea
    7 857 143 $
    DD
    UFA - 5
    TOR
    Liljegren, Timothy
    863 333 $
    DD
    RFA - 1
    MTL
    Pezzetta, Michael
    750 000 $
    AG, C
    RFA - 1

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    9 nov. 2021 à 20 h 49
    #1
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    Chiarot will probably gets us a 1st but no one on Capfriendly would trade a 1st for Chiarot, like he isn’t worth it, but freaking David Savard was worth a 1st +. If Hampus Lindholm isn’t on the Trade Market comes the TDL, Chiarot would be a good candidate for a team like the Isles
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    9 nov. 2021 à 20 h 50
    #2
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    ben chiarot has to be the most overrated player on this site, no shot you get liljegren and a 1st for him
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    9 nov. 2021 à 20 h 51
    #3
    Sicarius
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    No way Chiarot returns a 1st
    9 nov. 2021 à 20 h 51
    #4
    Hakuna Matata
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    Quoting: GMs
    Chiarot will probably gets us a 1st but no one on Capfriendly would trade a 1st for Chiarot, like he isn’t worth it, but freaking David Savard was worth a 1st +. If Hampus Lindholm isn’t on the Trade Market comes the TDL, Chiarot would be a good candidate for a team like the Isles


    Lou will probs give up a 1st for him then sign him to a deal that will be a head scratcher. Thats my guess
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    9 nov. 2021 à 20 h 53
    #5
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    Quoting: aadoyle
    Lou will probs give up a 1st for him then sign him to a deal that will be a head scratcher. Thats my guess


    idk why he’d do that when chiarot has none of the skills the islanders need out of a LD, which are speed and puck moving ability
    9 nov. 2021 à 20 h 53
    #6
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    Quoting: bagelbob
    ben chiarot has to be the most overrated player on this site, no shot you get liljegren and a 1st for him


    Quoting: Sicarius
    No way Chiarot returns a 1st


    Guys Savard got a 1st + 3rd at the TDL too play 3rd pairing while Chiarot went too the SCF, had the most ice time after Hedman (that I read somewhere can’t confirm), Chiarot is twice the player Savard is and have a lower caphit than Savard had. Like no he isn’t worth a 1st, but teams overpays for guys like him
    9 nov. 2021 à 20 h 54
    #7
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    Quoting: bagelbob
    idk why he’d do that when chiarot has none of the skills the islanders need out of a LD, which are speed and puck moving ability


    They need a LD and hes one of the few upgrades available

    Lou also likes this type of Dman.
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    9 nov. 2021 à 20 h 54
    #8
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    Quoting: bagelbob
    idk why he’d do that when chiarot has none of the skills the islanders need out of a LD, which are speed and puck moving ability


    That’s why they got Greene and Chara playing
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    9 nov. 2021 à 20 h 55
    #9
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    Quoting: GMs
    That’s why they got Greene and Chara playing


    the whole point of making a trade is to replace them with someone with puckmoving skill
    9 nov. 2021 à 20 h 56
    #10
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    Quoting: aadoyle
    They need a LD and hes one of the few available

    Lou also likes this type of Dman.


    imo if lou goes for this type of dman, he’ll go for mcnabb.
    9 nov. 2021 à 20 h 56
    #11
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    Quoting: Sicarius
    No way Chiarot returns a 1st


    lol. i cant believe you ppl. it literally happens every year
    9 nov. 2021 à 20 h 57
    #12
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    You want what for Ben Chiarot?!
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    9 nov. 2021 à 20 h 57
    #13
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    Quoting: GMs
    Guys Savard got a 1st + 3rd at the TDL too play 3rd pairing while Chiarot went too the SCF, had the most ice time after Hedman (that I read somewhere can’t confirm), Chiarot is twice the player Savard is and have a lower caphit than Savard had. Like no he isn’t worth a 1st, but teams overpays for guys like him


    I dont get it. But it happened and continues to happen. Should be able to understand the market
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    9 nov. 2021 à 20 h 58
    #14
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    Quoting: bagelbob
    imo if lou goes for this type of dman, he’ll go for mcnabb.


    Why would McNabb be available Vegas be in win mode not give away assets mode.
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    9 nov. 2021 à 20 h 58
    #15
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    Quoting: OlegP
    lol. i cant believe you ppl. it literally happens every year


    Chiarot is traded every year for a 1st?
    9 nov. 2021 à 20 h 58
    #16
    MisstheWhalers
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    Might get a 1st for Chiarot but won't get a 1st and a Lijegren type prospect/young player.
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    9 nov. 2021 à 20 h 58
    #17
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    Quoting: bagelbob
    imo if lou goes for this type of dman, he’ll go for mcnabb.


    Vegas has to shed about 8 million at the TDL if Eichel comes back healthy. Mcnabb and Rielly Smith look to be the two expendable pieces
    9 nov. 2021 à 20 h 59
    #18
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    Quoting: Sicarius
    Chiarot is traded every year for a 1st?


    wow. reading comprehension is a lost art
    9 nov. 2021 à 20 h 59
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    Quoting: aadoyle
    Why would McNabb be available Vegas be in win mode not give away assets mode.


    vegas has to shed like 7.5m in salary to make eichel fit, mcnabb makes logical sense since he’s a pending UFA
    9 nov. 2021 à 21 h 0
    #20
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    Quoting: bagelbob
    vegas has to shed like 7.5m in salary to make eichel fit, mcnabb makes logical sense since he’s a pending UFA


    Eichel wont be back till the playoffs we all know that.

    Vegas gonna pull a Tampa and Eichel will recover from his neck surgery just in time for game 1 of the playoffs.
    9 nov. 2021 à 21 h 1
    #21
    Sicarius
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    Quoting: OlegP
    wow. reading comprehension is a lost art


    It’s called sarcasm but here I will prove my point with facts.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020–21_NHL_transactions

    Go to the site and please reply with all the D for 1sts that you see
    9 nov. 2021 à 21 h 1
    #22
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    Quoting: aadoyle
    Eichel wont be back till the playoffs we all know that.

    Vegas gonna pull a Tampa and Eichel will recover from his neck surgery just in time for game 1 of the playoffs.


    they might! but based on messaging from eichel and the team i’d be surprised.
    9 nov. 2021 à 21 h 12
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    Quoting: GMs
    Chiarot will probably gets us a 1st but no one on Capfriendly would trade a 1st for Chiarot, like he isn’t worth it, but freaking David Savard was worth a 1st +. If Hampus Lindholm isn’t on the Trade Market comes the TDL, Chiarot would be a good candidate for a team like the Isles


    Quoting: aadoyle
    Lou will probs give up a 1st for him then sign him to a deal that will be a head scratcher. Thats my guess


    I can’t think of a defenseman available who is a worse fit for the isles than Ben Chiarot, which is why Lou won’t trade for him. Over the past two seasons both players Lou traded for were perfect fits and filled a need. If the rumors is that isles are looking for a puck mover , why would they add Chiarot?

    @aadoyle what has Lou done over the last two years that would lead you to predict he would trade for Chiarot and then sign him to a bad deal?
    9 nov. 2021 à 21 h 13
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    People need to realize Savard was actually good for CBJ before being dealt.. Chiarot hasnt been very good for MTL... they might be able to get a 3rd for him. There are also so many better pending UFAs who may be available for trade who are actually worth the first.
    9 nov. 2021 à 21 h 14
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    Quoting: bagelbob
    imo if lou goes for this type of dman, he’ll go for mcnabb.


    It’s already been rumored isles are looking for a mobile puck moving D
     
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