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Créé par: Zmach
Équipe: 2021-22 Oilers d'Edmonton
Date de création initiale: 6 nov. 2021
Publié: 6 nov. 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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  1. Bourgault, Xavier [Liste de réserve]
  2. Broberg, Philip
  3. Koskinen, Mikko
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (EDM)
  5. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (EDM)
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6 nov. 2021 à 16 h 37
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no. All gibson has at this point is really good name value. Koskinen has a higher 2019-2022 GSAx so this is really just a downgrade.
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6 nov. 2021 à 16 h 40
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Quoting: Petey232323
no. All gibson has at this point is really good name value. Koskinen has a higher 2019-2022 GSAx so this is really just a downgrade.


Gibson would save a couple more per night that he probably shouldnt have. Koskinen is playing good but he doesn’t stone anybody most of those grade A chances go in.
6 nov. 2021 à 16 h 45
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Gibson would save a couple more per night that he probably shouldnt have. Koskinen is playing good but he doesn’t stone anybody most of those grade A chances go in.

Gibson is a cap dump. Total Chiarelli move right there.

Oh and Koskinen has saved a far higher percentage of his HD shots than Gibson has over the past 2+ years: .834 HD save percentage vs .809 for Gibson. You're going strictly on reputation and not facts. Gibson hasn't been good since 2018.
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6 nov. 2021 à 16 h 45
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Gibson is a cap dump. Total Chiarelli move right there.

Oh and Koskinen has saved a far higher percentage of his HD shots than Gibson has over the past 2+ years: .834 HD save percentage vs .809 for Gibson. You're going strictly on reputation and not facts. Gibson hasn't been good since 2018.


http://naturalstattrick.com/playerteams.php?fromseason=20192020&thruseason=20212022&stype=2&sit=all&score=all&stdoi=g&rate=n&team=ALL&pos=S&loc=B&toi=3000&gpfilt=none&fd=&td=&tgp=410&lines=single&draftteam=ALL
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6 nov. 2021 à 17 h 41
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If i’m Ducks hell yes, if i’m EDM hell no.
6 nov. 2021 à 17 h 44
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Koskinen definitely isn't going to be "the solution" going forward but his good performance is exactly why goaltending doesn't need to be a big concern and why the big names aren't always the solution either. Marc-Andre Fleury (very rightly) won the Vezina last year, but he looks cooked this year (and even if you want to blame that on Chicago, the year BEFORE he won the Vezina he was so bad the Knights had to bring in and immediately extend Robin Lehner). Florida extended Sergei Bobrovsky for eight years two years ago and is just this season seeing him come anywhere close to living up to it. On the other hand, Freddie Anderson looked cooked too, but he's putting up unreal numbers in Carolina for comparatively little money. One of the best goalies in the league last year was a 25 year old rookie, and we all saw what happened with Jordan Binnington- making 650k- in 2019.

All of this is to say, goaltending is complete nonsense. There are two guys in the league that you might say are night in and night out great- Hellebuyck and Vasilevskiy. If you aren't getting one of those guys or don't have one on your roster, you don't need to be giving up anything approaching a first round pick for a goalie and you shouldn't be paying them anymore than 5 million dollars.

Gibson is an interesting case because he used to be insanely good and he's decently young so you never know, but it's not worth the risk. You can get solid enough goaltending from somewhere else. The Oilers don't need to be allocating too much cap space to goaltending when McDavid and Draisaitl will be outscoring the other team on the regular no matter who is net.
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6 nov. 2021 à 19 h 6
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If they are buying 5+ years of Gibson, might as well use Skinner as one of the prospects, no?
Instead of sending Broberg, Bourgault.
6 nov. 2021 à 19 h 9
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Koskinen definitely isn't going to be "the solution" going forward but his good performance is exactly why goaltending doesn't need to be a big concern and why the big names aren't always the solution either. Marc-Andre Fleury (very rightly) won the Vezina last year, but he looks cooked this year (and even if you want to blame that on Chicago, the year BEFORE he won the Vezina he was so bad the Knights had to bring in and immediately extend Robin Lehner). Florida extended Sergei Bobrovsky for eight years two years ago and is just this season seeing him come anywhere close to living up to it. On the other hand, Freddie Anderson looked cooked too, but he's putting up unreal numbers in Carolina for comparatively little money. One of the best goalies in the league last year was a 25 year old rookie, and we all saw what happened with Jordan Binnington- making 650k- in 2019.

All of this is to say, goaltending is complete nonsense. There are two guys in the league that you might say are night in and night out great- Hellebuyck and Vasilevskiy. If you aren't getting one of those guys or don't have one on your roster, you don't need to be giving up anything approaching a first round pick for a goalie and you shouldn't be paying them anymore than 5 million dollars.

Gibson is an interesting case because he used to be insanely good and he's decently young so you never know, but it's not worth the risk. You can get solid enough goaltending from somewhere else. The Oilers don't need to be allocating too much cap space to goaltending when McDavid and Draisaitl will be outscoring the other team on the regular no matter who is net.


This. Well said.
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6 nov. 2021 à 20 h 11
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It's interesting with Gibson too that not only has it been a while since he's been good, but it has been 152 games and over 4 years since he has been elite

18-19 he only had a GSAA of 12 in 58 games

With him now 28 I don't think any competitive team can gamble on his cap hit and clauses, many player peak from 20-25 and he might be one, idk tho Confused
6 nov. 2021 à 20 h 14
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Quoting: TheEarthmaster
Koskinen definitely isn't going to be "the solution" going forward but his good performance is exactly why goaltending doesn't need to be a big concern and why the big names aren't always the solution either. Marc-Andre Fleury (very rightly) won the Vezina last year, but he looks cooked this year (and even if you want to blame that on Chicago, the year BEFORE he won the Vezina he was so bad the Knights had to bring in and immediately extend Robin Lehner). Florida extended Sergei Bobrovsky for eight years two years ago and is just this season seeing him come anywhere close to living up to it. On the other hand, Freddie Anderson looked cooked too, but he's putting up unreal numbers in Carolina for comparatively little money. One of the best goalies in the league last year was a 25 year old rookie, and we all saw what happened with Jordan Binnington- making 650k- in 2019.

All of this is to say, goaltending is complete nonsense. There are two guys in the league that you might say are night in and night out great- Hellebuyck and Vasilevskiy. If you aren't getting one of those guys or don't have one on your roster, you don't need to be giving up anything approaching a first round pick for a goalie and you shouldn't be paying them anymore than 5 million dollars.

Gibson is an interesting case because he used to be insanely good and he's decently young so you never know, but it's not worth the risk. You can get solid enough goaltending from somewhere else. The Oilers don't need to be allocating too much cap space to goaltending when McDavid and Draisaitl will be outscoring the other team on the regular no matter who is net.


Saros has been very consistent in his career as well, between .914 and .927 yearly, as well in smaller samples that are much more prone to fluctuations
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