Quoting: tea
ohhh i thought u meant you could name a bunch of ppl better than MAF, Bergeron, Getzlaf, and Weber, didn't read it right. I'd consider Bergeron and Getzlaf, but I still think MAF is the best of the three. Yes, Fleury has have a bad few games with Chicago, but 6 games does not outweigh the extraordinary career he's had. Since I'd say 2007-08, he's consistently been one of the best goalies in the NHL, he's 3rd all time in wins, won 3 cups with Pittsburgh, and has been ridiculously good in Vegas, winning a Vezina and a Jennings. Yes, Shea Weber has been really good, but he's never really been that top defenseman in the league. Getzlaf has the same problem imo, he's never really been dominant. I can definitely see the argument for Bergeron, he's possibly the best defensive forward in history, but I'm still leaning towards Fleury.
MAF was literally never top 5 in Vezina voting in his entire career in Pittsburgh. He only even got votes twice (10/11 and 11/12 he was 8th and 7th). Wasn't until he got to Vegas that he started getting votes.
He was only a Vezina finalist the one time that he won it.
Wins is a team accomplishment as much as goalie, and he only won one cup as a playing goaltender. What he has been is a very good, but not great goaltender, who has had incredible longevity. Its interesting you compare him to Weber who you say never was that top defenseman in the league when he certainly was way higher at his peak than Price.
From 08/09 to 14/15 he was the following in Norris voting
4th
7th
2nd
2nd
8th
3rd
4th
Sure he never won it, but he was a perennial favourite. (he was then 10th and 6th after)
MAF is more what you describe Weber as