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Fixing the Backend

Créé par: TheAlien
Équipe: 2022-23 Canucks de Vancouver
Date de création initiale: 17 oct. 2021
Publié: 28 oct. 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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Kept Hamonic on LTIR don't really know what to do with him until he plays
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RFAANSCAP HIT
77 250 000 $
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2750 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
45 000 000 $
2800 000 $
2750 000 $
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JOUEURAAVCOMPENSATION
MacEwen, Zack900 000 $Aucune compensation
Transactions
NSH
  1. Myers, Tyler (2 000 000 $ retained)
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (VAN)
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2382 500 000 $80 101 667 $1 250 000 $1 150 000 $2 398 333 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
C, AG, AD
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7 350 000 $7 350 000 $
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7 250 000 $7 250 000 $
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UFA - 3
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3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
AG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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4 125 000 $4 125 000 $
C
UFA - 1
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4 950 000 $4 950 000 $
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UFA - 4
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891 667 $891 667 $ (Bonis de performance300 000 $$300K)
AG, AD
RFA - 1
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
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750 000 $750 000 $
C, AG
UFA
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2 650 000 $2 650 000 $
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900 000 $900 000 $
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UFA - 1
800 000 $800 000 $
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5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
DD
UFA - 4
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5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
G
UFA - 4
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7 260 000 $7 260 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 5
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2 400 000 $2 400 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
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2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
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1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
G
RFA - 1
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2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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750 000 $750 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
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3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
AG, AD
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UFA - 1
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750 000 $750 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
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850 000 $850 000 $
DD
UFA - 1

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28 oct. 2021 à 16 h 22
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I don’t get why Nashville would do that
28 oct. 2021 à 16 h 24
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I don’t get why Nashville would do that


I kind of did it assuming they miss the playoffs and decide to tear everything down
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28 oct. 2021 à 16 h 25
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No from NSH
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28 oct. 2021 à 16 h 25
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No from NSH


What needs to be added
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28 oct. 2021 à 16 h 26
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I can't see Poile giving up Fabbro for anything less than a 1st+.
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28 oct. 2021 à 16 h 27
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What needs to be added


It's not necessarily a value thing its more of a we don't need to move him sorta thing
28 oct. 2021 à 16 h 27
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I can't see Poile giving up Fabbro for anything less than a 1st+.


So what else do you want? You've got the 1st
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28 oct. 2021 à 16 h 28
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If you want to pay Rathbone $2M after just 15 NHL games then Lammikko with 91 NHL games must be worth more than league minimum.
I doubt Nashville would make that deal, though I wish they would.
28 oct. 2021 à 16 h 30
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So what else do you want? You've got the 1st


Even with the retention, Myers is a considerable negative asset. I don't think this is a proposal that can be tweaked - it just doesn't get considered from NSH's side.
28 oct. 2021 à 16 h 31
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If you want to pay Rathbone $2M after just 15 NHL games then Lammikko with 91 NHL games must be worth more than league minimum.
I doubt Nashville would make that deal, though I wish they would.


Rathbone isn't gonna have 15 games when the season is over. You also tend to pay better players more than the worse ones
28 oct. 2021 à 16 h 32
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Even with the retention, Myers is a considerable negative asset. I don't think this is a proposal that can be tweaked - it just doesn't get considered from NSH's side.


At 4mil Myers isn't even close to a negative asset
28 oct. 2021 à 16 h 36
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At 4mil Myers isn't even close to a negative asset


Afraid I'd disagree with that. If he were a UFA after this season, I could see NSH taking him on as a cap dump in the right deal, if they decided to throw in the towel on this season. With two more years left after this though, it's completely unrealistic for the Preds.
28 oct. 2021 à 16 h 36
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It's not necessarily a value thing its more of a we don't need to move him sorta thing


Maybe not right now but if you miss the playoffs again don't you think a rebuild would have to happen?
28 oct. 2021 à 16 h 37
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Quoting: csick
I don’t get why Nashville would do that


Well, they'd be getting a lottery pick
28 oct. 2021 à 16 h 38
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Afraid I'd disagree with that. If he were a UFA after this season, I could see NSH taking him on as a cap dump in the right deal, if they decided to throw in the towel on this season. With two more years left after this though, it's completely unrealistic for the Preds.


You can disagree all you want but I guarantee if Benning offered Myers at 4mil he'd have 10 GMs calling. Just look at the money that was thrown at RDs this offseason.
28 oct. 2021 à 16 h 40
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Rathbone isn't gonna have 15 games when the season is over. You also tend to pay better players more than the worse ones


I like Rathbone but the sample size a little small to be rushing to judgement. Also I like Burroughs over Schenn.
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Rathbone isn't gonna have 15 games when the season is over. You also tend to pay better players more than the worse ones
28 oct. 2021 à 16 h 40
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You can disagree all you want but I guarantee if Benning offered Myers at 4mil he'd have 10 GMs calling. Just look at the money that was thrown at RDs this offseason.


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28 oct. 2021 à 16 h 41
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You can disagree all you want but I guarantee if Benning offered Myers at 4mil he'd have 10 GMs calling. Just look at the money that was thrown at RDs this offseason.


I'm more than confident Poile wouldn't be one of those GMs.
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28 oct. 2021 à 16 h 46
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Maybe not right now but if you miss the playoffs again don't you think a rebuild would have to happen?


He's still a young player tho
28 oct. 2021 à 17 h 6
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In addition to all the above points, the Preds have a considerable logjam at D. The trade would need to involve a forward to make sense.
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28 oct. 2021 à 17 h 32
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Honestly, not sure I like the Fabbro trade from the Canucks perspective.

You're only saving net 2 mil ish in cap space while giving up a first and trading for more of a question mark on Fabbro.

Trading Myers is a weird situation because despite his high cap hit we still need him on the back end.
28 oct. 2021 à 17 h 34
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that 2 mill retained is going to suck when you have to sign fabbro, miller, horvat, hoglander, podkolzin and pettersson
28 oct. 2021 à 17 h 47
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Myers has been pretty good this year. It doesn't make sense to dump him unless we considerably improve, which I don't think we did here.
29 oct. 2021 à 7 h 0
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If Nashville was to look to tear it down, trading a 23 year old dman currently being given 1st pairing / 2nd pairing (him and Carrier are currently getting close to the same TOI) wouldn't be the go to. Fabbro is young enough to where he should still be in his mid to late 20s when the team comes back around. You might be able to snag our Myers if he keeps being outplayed by Fabbro and Carrier. Teams just don't typically deal good young players in a tear it down rebuild. There really isn't much to be gained by doing that.

Tearing it down would begin with trading (in no certain order) - Josi, Ekholm, Forsberg, Sissons. They are the oldest of the "core" of players (that have tradable contracts). Our Myers could be on the table as he currently isn't getting into the lineup (he needs to be in the top 4 in our defensive system but is getting beat out by Carrier, Fabbro, Josi, Ekholm).

From a Nashville perspective: it just doesn't make sense (and the 1st isn't in the right year).
 
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