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Calgary Goes All In

Créé par: Ledge_And_Dairy
Date de création initiale: 27 oct. 2021
Publié: 28 oct. 2021
Équipe: 2021-22 Flames de Calgary
Explications
Monahan flipped to a 3rd team like Boston, Ottawa, or Vegas at 50%

Zadorov flipped at deadline to a contender that needs physicality and a 3rd pair guy
Transactions
1.
CGY
  1. Eichel, Jack
BUF
  1. Monahan, Sean
  2. Zadorov, Nikita
  3. Zary, Connor
  4. 2022 1e round pick (CGY)
  5. 2023 1e round pick (CGY)
Détails additionnels:
*2022 1st condtion: If Calgary makes the 2nd round of the Playoffs and Eichel plays in 50% of postseason games Buffalo gets the 1st. If Calgary makes the playoffs but does not advance to the 2nd round amd Eichel plays in 50% of postseason games then Buffalo receives the higher of the two 2nds. If Calgary does not make the playoffs or Eichel does not play in 50% of postseason games then Buffalo receives the lower of the 2 2nds.

**2023 1st condition: If Eichel plays in 50% of games in the 2022-23 season Buffalo receives the pick
2.
CGY
    No issue with him as a depth player, just need to free up jersey #15
    BUF
    1. Richardson, Brad
    Rachats de contrats
    • Troy Brouwer: 1 500 000 $
    ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
    2022
    CGY
    FLA
    CGY
    CGY
    2023
    CGY
    CGY
    CGY
    CGY
    CGY
    CGY
    2024
    CGY
    CGY
    CGY
    CGY
    CGY
    CGY
    CGY
    TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
    2381 500 000 $81 102 500 $0 $0 $397 500 $

    Formation

    Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
    CGY
    Gaudreau, Johnny
    6 750 000 $
    AG
    NTC
    UFA - 1
    CGY
    Lindholm, Elias
    4 850 000 $
    C, AD
    UFA - 3
    CGY
    Tkachuk, Matthew
    7 000 000 $
    AG, AD
    RFA - 1
    CGY
    Mangiapane, Andrew
    2 425 000 $
    AG, AD
    RFA - 1
    BUF
    Eichel, Jack
    10 000 000 $
    C
    UFA - 5
    CGY
    Dubé, Dillon
    2 300 000 $
    AD, AG
    RFA - 3
    CGY
    Coleman, Blake
    4 900 000 $
    AG, AD
    NTC
    UFA - 6
    CGY
    Backlund, Mikael
    5 350 000 $
    C
    NTC
    UFA - 3
    CGY
    Pitlick, Tyler
    1 750 000 $
    AD
    UFA - 1
    CGY
    Lucic, Milan
    5 250 000 $
    AG
    NMC NTC
    UFA - 2
    CGY
    Gawdin, Glenn
    750 000 $
    C, AD
    RFA - 1
    CGY
    Ritchie, Brett
    900 000 $
    AD
    UFA - 1
    Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
    CGY
    Hanifin, Noah
    4 950 000 $
    DG
    UFA - 3
    CGY
    Andersson, Rasmus
    4 550 000 $
    DD
    UFA - 5
    CGY
    Markström, Jacob
    6 000 000 $
    G
    NMC
    UFA - 5
    CGY
    Kylington, Oliver
    750 000 $
    DG
    RFA - 1
    CGY
    Tanev, Christopher
    4 500 000 $
    DD
    NTC
    UFA - 3
    CGY
    Vladar, Daniel
    750 000 $
    G
    RFA - 2
    CGY
    Välimäki, Juuso
    1 550 000 $
    DG
    RFA - 2
    CGY
    Gudbranson, Erik
    1 950 000 $
    DD
    UFA - 1
    Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
    CGY
    Stone, Michael
    750 000 $
    DD
    UFA - 1
    CGY
    Lewis, Trevor
    800 000 $
    AD
    UFA - 1
    CGY
    Duehr, Walker
    827 500 $
    AD
    RFA - 2

    Unités spéciales

    Avantage numérique 1
    Eichel, J.
    Lindholm, E.
    Tkachuk, M.
    Hanifin, N.
    Gaudreau, J.
    Avantage numérique 2
    Lucic, M.
    Backlund, M.
    Mangiapane, A.
    Dubé, D.
    Andersson, R.
    Infériorité numérique 1
    Backlund, M.
    Lindholm, E.
    Gudbranson, E.
    Tanev, C.
    Infériorité numérique 2
    Coleman, B.
    Mangiapane, A.
    Hanifin, N.
    Andersson, R.

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    28 oct. 2021 à 2 h 38
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    Huh I didn’t think about that, he can’t exactly wear 9. I like the conditions on the picks, I think that’s pretty fair. And I like that we get to keep Dube in this offer, with there also being protection on the picks in case there are complications with Eichel’s surgery
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    28 oct. 2021 à 7 h 59
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    I dont think thats very enticing for buffalo at all.

    Zero 1sts without conditions

    1 prospect

    Buying extremely low on monahan

    we have no place for zadorov and we already traded him away
    28 oct. 2021 à 7 h 59
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    Quoting: Alfie11
    Huh I didn’t think about that, he can’t exactly wear 9. I like the conditions on the picks, I think that’s pretty fair. And I like that we get to keep Dube in this offer, with there also being protection on the picks in case there are complications with Eichel’s surgery


    of course you like it. you get a superstar and have protected yourself against giving away much of anything
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    28 oct. 2021 à 12 h 35
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    Modifié 28 oct. 2021 à 12 h 41
    Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
    I dont think thats very enticing for buffalo at all.

    Zero 1sts without conditions

    1 prospect

    Buying extremely low on monahan

    we have no place for zadorov and we already traded him away


    Well Monahan's not going to waive there so it would be a 3-way trade. My rhoughs are that Buffalo retains 50% on Monahan for JDB and a 1st from Boston.

    Of course its no guaranteed 1sts, were talking about a very relevant surgery here that Calgary is taking on all the risk for here. The 2023 condition is ery very light, 42 games, thats it.

    2022 1st is pretty much playoff based and Eichel participating, do you just think a team is going to trade you a lotto pick?

    1 top end center prospect

    As stated above Zadorov is purely there to make the cap work, you are more than welcome to flip him to a 3rd team
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    28 oct. 2021 à 13 h 23
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    Conditions! Oy!

    What is everybody a flippin' attorney now? "If the acquiring party reaches the second round of the 2022 NHL playoffs and the acquired party plays in half of the games with at least 0.66 points per game and no more this seven penalty minutes (which must not include a major match penalty for intent to injure that results in league disciplinary action prior to the July 2022 NHL draft putatively being held in Montreal, Quebec, Dominion of Canada . . . "

    WTF, lady. Do ya want da ham sammitch or not? Sticking Out Tongue
    28 oct. 2021 à 13 h 27
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    Quoting: Diaspora
    Conditions! Oy!

    What is everybody a flippin' attorney now? "If the acquiring party reaches the second round of the 2022 NHL playoffs and the acquired party plays in half of the games with at least 0.66 points per game and no more this seven penalty minutes (which must not include a major match penalty for intent to injure that results in league disciplinary action prior to the July 2022 NHL draft putatively being held in Montreal, Quebec, Dominion of Canada . . . "

    WTF, lady. Do ya want da ham sammitch or not? Sticking Out Tongue


    I mean if you want to compare Eichel to a sandwich sold by a NY street vendor then sure. I think most other people would agree its definitely not that simple
    28 oct. 2021 à 14 h 48
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    thewookie1
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    Buffalo declines due to a serious lack of concrete assets.

    Even in your scenario of Monahan fetching Debrusk and a 1st Buffalo gets hosed.

    The 22 1st is quite literally is effectively no better than 20th overall barring Calgary sneaking in as the 16th seed and miraculously beating the 1 seed in the west before losing in the 2nd round. Or it turns into a weak 2nd

    The 23 1st is easier to get but would be assumed to be a later pick again. Not to mention Eichel could get hurt or catch COVID etc and get scratched in Game 82 to put his games at 40.

    Boston’s 1st would be again very late more than likely.

    Zary is the only interesting piece as in the scenarios I’ve played out; the literal best we can get is 2 late 1sts in 22, a late 1st in 23, Zary(a lesser prospect than a Krebs or Zegras) and Debrusk who looks like a one-hit wonder for our best player. Oh and Zadorov’s cap hit

    No thank you.
    28 oct. 2021 à 15 h 9
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    Im going to break this down into a few parts since it covers a lot of stuff (sorry for the multiple pings if that bothers you)
    Quoting: thewookie1

    The 22 1st is quite literally is effectively no better than 20th overall barring Calgary sneaking in as the 16th seed and miraculously beating the 1 seed in the west before losing in the 2nd round. Or it turns into a weak 2nd

    It should be pretty expected at this point that any 1st Buffalo receives will have conditions on it, complaining about the placement in the standings for it is odd to me though since there is no chance a team will give up a top 10 pick here. If you would prefer it be a condition on just making the playoffs and Eichel playing then sure, that can be debated.

    Quoting: thewookie1
    The 23 1st is easier to get but would be assumed to be a later pick again. Not to mention Eichel could get hurt or catch COVID etc and get scratched in Game 82 to put his games at 40.

    That's kinda where the risk comes from though. Calgary would be acquiring Eichel here to be a contender, not to have him spend 2 years of his remaining 5 years under contract of 12% of their cap hit on LTIR. Nobody's going to sit a guy of his caliber for 42 games on purpose to avoid trading a scratch ticket, that kinda enters realms of conspiracy theory.

    Quoting: thewookie1
    Boston’s 1st would be again very late more than likely.

    To reiterate what I said above, the mindset that you are going to get a high 1st is closer to a pipe dream than reality

    Quoting: thewookie1
    Zary is the only interesting piece as in the scenarios I’ve played out; the literal best we can get is 2 late 1sts in 22, a late 1st in 23, Zary(a lesser prospect than a Krebs or Zegras) and Debrusk who looks like a one-hit wonder for our best player. Oh and Zadorov’s cap hit.


    No idea why you brought up Zegras as that was never a realistic option, Krebs is barely a better prospect than Zary and by all accounts from reliable sources Krebs is a non-starter too. Debrusk is a solid middle 6 player that more or less needs a change of scenery. Zadorov's cap hit is literally just for the year and he would have positive value for Buffalo at the deadline.

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    I wasn't really looking to appease Sabres fans with this post, if you want posts like that I have a few ACGM's in my post history that do that. This was more in line with what I expect to end up happening after all the dust settles and was more an approach to start the topic of potential conditions we could end up seeing (as there will most certainly be conditions as long as he is traded before treatment).
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