Kotkaniemi signed $6.1M offersheet, its not a mistake for Bergevin to not get it done at $3M. "But they could have signed him sooner for cheaper", no one knows that, KK has to sign regardless. That's ridiculous.

Leddy, also gets to decide where to sign, same contract, Isles have gone to the final 4 twice, Habs had a magical run, he wasnt signing with us for the same deal.


EDIT: Dvorak is also better than KK right now...

Yeah well Detroit beat Montreal for Leddy, And with a $6,100,000 offer sheet on Kotkaniemi. He sure wasn't going to sign for 2 x $3,000,000. And even if MB matches the offer sheet on KK. Dvorak would've never happened.

So kk signs for 100k less total and 1 year more? 🙄

Yeah sorry Campabee. I do feel bad for Montreal having the management they do, but if you think it was their fault they lost KK or that he would sign for that, than you aren't much better...

Montreal giving up their 2021 1st rd pick would've killed 2 birds with one stone (assuming Leddy would go to Montreal).

The most obvious mistake IMO (if any) is signing Hoffman AND resigning Armia. Wings are loaded and it wasn't a need vs. LD and C.

But if he felt he had nothing interesting at C or LD, it's understandable to use his capspace to the max

Yeah that sure as heck would've been hilarious.

Considering their 1st rd picks was Logan Mailloux they would have been better off trading it. The OHL has banned him indefinitely.

Montreal felt Mailloux was a top 15 talent. They knew they were getting into a **** storm when the drafted him. They really wanted him obviously, and will help the kid redeem himself.

Yeah i can't believe that MB was stupid enough to draft him, After he bailed out on the draft. Not a very wise decision on his part.

Logan’s a fantastic young man that I’ve met personally. I also met with his parents. If you had all the facts, maybe people wouldn’t be so nasty towards a 17 year old playing overseas trying to impress his older teammates with zero parental supervision. Logan is practicing daily with team, has participated in over fifty hours of counselling and will be playing in the OHL in January.

He will also be a very good player and he will play in the NHL. With Montreal that depends on the pious approach of the fans that seem to think they were perfect at age 17

It is an excellent pick. 9 teams were going to draft him in the following round. He’s going to be an excellent player.

It was reported that KK wanted 3 Mil on a 2 year deal but MB wouldn't go over 2.5 Mil. Therefore essentially Montreal lost KK over 500k, hence the 3 Mil signing here. Also I am not debating who was better between KK and Dvo just undoing the mistake to let 2 top 9 Centers go and only replace 1.

Who reported it? Is it proven, or just rumours?

Also, KK is not a top 2 center. Neither Montreal nor Carolina think so.

First off that is someones daughter so before you go saying that behavior is all good in Montreal I'd think about what you are saying. This is considered a form of sexual assault and I'm hoping you are just to young to realize or understand that. There is nothing pious about this we are talking about someone who committed sexual assault and that isn't cool at any time or any place. I don't know about Canada but in the US what he did is a felony and once you are a felon you lose quit a few rights.

I have 30 years experience in counselling, 3 university degrees, 23 years in coaching, 3 sons of my own. I am not at liberty to talk about the details but one thing I can say is she is older than Logan and many text demonstrate she pursued and initiated the sexual relationship. Logan turned her down several times. This is why there will never be criminal charges. He took one picture and showed some teammates to impress them as a 17 year old.

If you are without sin cast your first stone.

20 current NHL players did dumb things under age 18 and have matured into good husbands and fathers.

So have I but I have never done anything that can get changed with sexual assault or that would get me charged with a felony. Do you know how many rape and sexual assaults go unreported? It's about 70% for a number of reasons but at the top of that list are fear of retaliation and shame. So if women are afraid to even report being raped can you really say what happened was no big deal and it was young men just being stupid?

Those are your words not mine. I am a very loud defender and speaker in women’s shelters, free of charge. Last week I did a zoom with abused women. He didn’t assault the older woman and she is on the record saying she pursued Logan. Get your facts straight. All you’re doing is reacting emotionally.

I’ve worked with players that were about to do far worse before I bashed the door and got a drunk woman a cab and proceeded to lecture 11 players in the hotel room, 3 of which made it to the NHL. then when the GM & coaches showed up the next day I demanded a meeting with all involved and blasted each one for over two hours.

So if you’re going to emotionally respond again when YOU DONT HAVE ALL THE FACTS, I will block you.

Since you are a coach and father I have a somewhat revenant question. With happened in Chicago and incidents like that seem to be on the rise in all sports? Should we be doing more to educate them what do when something like that happens and maybe how to avoid it if possible?

Have to disagree on KK. He definitely could have been signed to a more reasonable amount, whether it was for 1 or more years. No agent would have let him turn down anything over $3M or would have expected anything higher from an offer sheet. MB is stubborn. That's the only reason it played out that way.
Whether MB was right to hold out over a few hundred thousand is debatable, but he didn't have to stretch too far to lock KK on on a bridge deal before anything else happened.
Worse case, you pay too much for a couple years while you better evaluate the player and claw back on the next contract where the dollar amount is more relevant on a long term deal. If KK goes full Yakupov, you have an easy out. If not, you argue over millions then instead of thousands now.

$ follow the money. People in high places know hundreds of millions is at stake. So it’s often covered up. Sadly people only change when they get caught.

Terry Trafford in 2014 killed himself. Afterwards the CHL put in place a small group to help the players. It is 100% confidential and the help is for difficulties away from the rink. Example: drugs, pornography, girlfriend issues, homesick, etc.

The NHL is an even bigger market, with deeper pockets. At first the NHL didn’t want anything to do with this, but when it was forced to look into it and found credible the story, it shifted and now they will clean house, financially compensate and will put in place a much better system to protect future athletes.

This is not over in Chicago and more people will lose their jobs. In 2012, I was blackballed for speaking up and fired from a team by the GM because I protected the player from abuse.

This is not new and has been happening for fifty years. Finally people are getting caught and properly punished. I’ve met numerous coaches that only go in the room just before games. When I worked with hockey Canada, I taught coaches to be in the room as much as possible, to stop bullying, inappropriate sexual behaviour and to be a positive role model for their players.

I’m still friends with 75% of the players I coached from 1992 to 2015. Many have called to ask for advice on marriage, raising their kids and how to coach in minor hockey.

Standing up takes courage but it’s imperative to gather all the facts before passing judgment and not rely on the news or keyboard warriors.

You are right people only change when they get caught and most predators just change their tactics.

I remember reading about Terry Trafford. I don't know if you subscribe to the Athletic but in 2019 they ran an article where Jordin Tootoo talked about his brother's suicide and wanting to help players where he is from in similar situations. The NHL Network ran Kyle Beach's interview in it entirety without interruption. It was pretty hard watch and I agree it takes a lot of strength to do what he did. He was fighting to hold back the tears through the entire time. Did you see Toews interview on what happened?

I still play, coach and referee but I've never had to deal with anything like that in hockey. But a friend of mine was sexually assaulted at a party freshman year of college. At first she thought was her fault for being drunk at a party and then she didn't want to say anything because she didn't want anyone to know. Her older sister finally got her to speak to sexual assault counselor before and after that she went to the police.


As for having all the facts what did I say that was untrue????