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Équipe: 2021-22 Sharks de San Jose
Date de création initiale: 27 oct. 2021
Publié: 27 oct. 2021
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27 oct. 2021 à 12 h 41
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You should reconsider this Hertl trade before Sharks fans see it
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27 oct. 2021 à 12 h 43
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delete this before you get rightfully cyber bullied
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27 oct. 2021 à 12 h 49
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Absolutely not!
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27 oct. 2021 à 12 h 51
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I just posted a trade for Hertl in exchange for a 1st, a 5th, Khudobin and Dellandrea and got "rejected". smile
27 oct. 2021 à 12 h 52
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Quoting: Phleb2
I just posted a trade for Hertl in exchange for a 1st, a 5th, Khudobin and Dellandrea and got "rejected". smile


it got rejected because we don't need Khudobin anymore, but thats a pretty fair deal.
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27 oct. 2021 à 12 h 54
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A simple no will do here.
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27 oct. 2021 à 12 h 54
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Quoting: bhavikp27
You should reconsider this Hertl trade before Sharks fans see it


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delete this before you get rightfully cyber bullied


Quoting: RazWild
Absolutely not!


this is a fun site for us to put things out and see how people react so bashing people shouldn't be done.
that being said the Wild don't do that unless sharks retain half, and the Hertl trade is a massive underpayment.
we should get more than what Arizona got for Dvorak.
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27 oct. 2021 à 13 h 0
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Quoting: Rob32sjsharks
this is a fun site for us to put things out and see how people react so bashing people shouldn't be done.
that being said the Wild don't do that unless sharks retain half, and the Hertl trade is a massive underpayment.
we should get more than what Arizona got for Dvorak.


My guess is that Hertl's value is around a 1st round pick + A decent prospect or a grade A+ prospect + 2nd or 3rd round pick. This would be a little more than what the Habs paid for Dvorak.
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27 oct. 2021 à 13 h 2
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Quoting: Rob32sjsharks
it got rejected because we don't need Khudobin anymore, but thats a pretty fair deal.


Khudobin could be flipped to the Habs or another team in need of goaltending. In other words, this could be a 3 team trade.
27 oct. 2021 à 13 h 3
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Quoting: Phleb2
My guess is that Hertl's value is around a 1st round pick + A decent prospect or a grade A+ prospect + 2nd or 3rd round pick. This would be a little more than what the Habs paid for Dvorak.


That's my thought as well. or some variation of this offer.
that's why I've posted a lot of NY rangers trading Chytil 1st, and a 2nd.
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27 oct. 2021 à 13 h 5
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The Tomas Hertl trade is a royal joke, He's worth way more then that. And Evander Kane trade Minnesota 100% declines. No one wants that locker room cancer around.
27 oct. 2021 à 13 h 11
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Quoting: Phleb2
Khudobin could be flipped to the Habs or another team in need of goaltending. In other words, this could be a 3 team trade.


I can see that, I did an en-facto 3 team trade with Hertl to NY and flipped the assets to Buffalo plus our own for Eichel.
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27 oct. 2021 à 13 h 13
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Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58
The Tomas Hertl trade is a royal joke, He's worth way more then that. And Evander Kane trade Minnesota 100% declines. No one wants that locker room cancer around.


someone will give Kane a chance again, cause he has proven to be a top line 30 goal scorer with an edge, and he works for about 2 years at each stop before the locker room sours on him, but your not getting anything in return and your probably going to have to retain to trade him.
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27 oct. 2021 à 13 h 18
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Quoting: Rob32sjsharks
someone will give Kane a chance again, cause he has proven to be a top line 30 goal scorer with an edge, and he works for about 2 years at each stop before the locker room sours on him, but your not getting anything in return and your probably going to have to retain to trade him.


A rebuilding team might take a chance on him, San Jose would need to take back another bad contract. Not sure i'd give up more then a conditional 7th round pick for him at the most. he just needs to get his life squared away first.
27 oct. 2021 à 13 h 21
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A rebuilding team might take a chance on him, San Jose would need to take back another bad contract. Not sure i'd give up more then a conditional 7th round pick for him at the most. he just needs to get his life squared away first.


I agree with that, sharks wont get much other than cap relief in a trade, maybe a 4th and a b grade prospect with us retaining 2 mil for him.
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27 oct. 2021 à 13 h 24
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Quoting: Rob32sjsharks
I agree with that, sharks wont get much other than cap relief in a trade, maybe a 4th and a b grade prospect with us retaining 2 mil for him.


Looks and sounds about right.
27 oct. 2021 à 13 h 27
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Quoting: Phleb2
My guess is that Hertl's value is around a 1st round pick + A decent prospect or a grade A+ prospect + 2nd or 3rd round pick. This would be a little more than what the Habs paid for Dvorak.


Most sharks beat writers believe the sharks asking price for Hertl would be a 1st, a high end center prospect that is close to NHL ready. Though he's not on the block and allegedly never had been.
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27 oct. 2021 à 13 h 35
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Quoting: Rob32sjsharks
this is a fun site for us to put things out and see how people react so bashing people shouldn't be done.
that being said the Wild don't do that unless sharks retain half, and the Hertl trade is a massive underpayment.
we should get more than what Arizona got for Dvorak.


You can retain half and the Wild still don't consider it
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27 oct. 2021 à 13 h 46
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The Wild need righties & centers far more than left handed wingers so automatically you're off to a bad start.

Then you see the difference in cap hit. That's a complete no go

Then you see realize why Evander would be traded and it makes any argument you could make for this trade completely nonsensical. No one wants/will give up positive value for Evander Kane, period.

And that Hertl trade is just atrocious for San Jose. To put it simply, he's worth A LOT more than that
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27 oct. 2021 à 13 h 51
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Quoting: Phleb2
My guess is that Hertl's value is around a 1st round pick + A decent prospect or a grade A+ prospect + 2nd or 3rd round pick. This would be a little more than what the Habs paid for Dvorak.


Hertl is much better than Dvorak lol theyre not comparable.
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27 oct. 2021 à 13 h 54
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Quoting: gary_bettman
Hertl is much better than Dvorak lol theyre not comparable.


And Dvorak wasn't a rental
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27 oct. 2021 à 14 h 15
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And Dvorak wasn't a rental


GMs lose their mind at the trade deadline and overpay if they think that's the piece that brings home a Cup, so to be fair I don't know how much term vs. rental has anything to do with what players can fetch in return. Also to be fair, Arizona had Bergevin where they wanted him because he was desperate to make a move so he could decide whether to match Carolina's OS or not. I really wonder if he would have matched it had he not been able to acquire a replacement at a comparable cost.
27 oct. 2021 à 14 h 16
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Kane….. might as well vomit on someone’s locker room. The culture overhaul the wild has gone through getting rid of staal, koivu, Parise and suter would be totally undone by getting kane. No team except a serious contender will give him a shot. And no front office with a young team will want him.
27 oct. 2021 à 14 h 37
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Wild politely decline
27 oct. 2021 à 16 h 6
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