Probably a first Insted of a thrid.

idk about a first. Hextal said he isnt trading 1sts and 2nds so i tried to make an offer where that is involved. Zucker has looked pretty solid and POJ doesnt have a spot with the pens

I don’t think the Pens trade Zucker, ZAR, a top 100 prospect in the NHL(on any list) that is NHL ready with NHL experience already and a 3rd round pick for Gallagher. And especially if he continues struggling this season.

I personally don’t think Gallagher is that much of an upgrade over Zucker. Especially being signed for 6 more seasons at 6.5M per. Till he’s 35 years old.

And Gallagher definitely isn’t a Hextall/Burke type player. They loath the 5’9 wingers. He wouldn’t play RW over Rust(and I would imagine the Pens would much rather resign Rust at 6.5M per than take on Gallagher). And he probably wouldnt play over the younger Kappy either(who the Pens used a 1st round pick on and the organization thinks highly of; and still a RFA). That would be a big contract and term for a 3L wing then.

I know I was going to say maybe a second but the bell rang

my bell rings in 10 minutes

I agree with what your saying. Maybe replace ZAR with Lafferty? POJ doesnt have a spot on the roster and we are stacked with LD for a while so thats why I added him. Also I think Gallagher is a type of player that the pens need. We need another player like Guentzel who lays the body

Gallagher is a 29 year old signed till hes 35 for a lot of money... and he looks absolutely terrible this year. you can be optimistic and hope he snaps out but around 29-31 is when most players tend to trend downwards.... idk if i would want to pay a premium for a players worse years

I meant to say a second but the bell rang

Do you have a counter offer? What would the pens have to give up?

Zucker hits just as much as Gallagher and Rust more so. I just don’t see Gallagher being that much of an upgrade over Zucker to not only take on that contract but pay that price to obtain him.

Gallagher wouldn’t play RW over Rust(and I would imagine the Pens would much rather resign Rust at 6.5M per than take on Gallagher).

And he probably wouldnt play over the younger Kappy either(who the Pens used a 1st round pick on and the organization thinks highly of; and still a RFA). That would be a big contract and term for a 3L wing then.

I guess your right

Well said

And wouldn’t u rather lines of:

Guentzel/Sid/Rust
Zucker/Geno/Kappy
OConnor/J.Carter/Heinen
ZAR/Blueger/McGinn

Than the lines u have up there..??

Maybe, but i kinda like Gallagher a little more than Zucker, just a little

idk im just thinkning that the pens should get another top 6 forward and use POJ's value so Kappy can play with Carter when healthy

I liked Gallagher a lot better on his old contract..lol. That’s a lot of money the Pens don’t have and a long term they would be stuck with.

tbh if im the penguins im not making a trade / giving up youth or picks unless it brings back youth. adding aging vets doesnt really solve an issue. Even with the capitals i wouldnt want to get much older unless you could get a Kane like player..

Penguins really dont need to add anywhere. they are missing 2 top 10 centers and have an amazing record. the biggest issue was goal tending and if they had that they probably have 1 more cup last year

Thanks for the feedback

Moving Matheson and his contract should be priority #1 for Hextall/Burke. I don’t care if they even have to package ZAR and even Puustinen and a mid round pick to move Matheson and his contract.

U can’t be paying a LHD, playing 3rd pairing minutes, 4.25M. Especially with that term. Especially with your top prospect, PO-J, a LHD, and NHL ready with NHL experience already; and will probably play it better.

And also Riikola(LHD, who is the point on the PP for WBS Pens in the AHL and all rave reviews so far this season with him being completely healthy). And Cam Lee is also getting great reports from WBS Pens saying he’s an NHL caliber LHD, and he’s playing RHD(well learning to play) this season too; just to add another tool and be more likely to crack the NHL roster sooner.

But I think packaging ZAR with maybe Joel Blomqvist or Calle Clang and a mid round pick(4th or 5th) might be enough to move Matheson.

Dumoulin/Letang
Pettersson/Marino
PO-j or Riikola/ Friedman or Ruhwedel

Looks solid defensively to me. And good NHL level depth as well. And PO-j on a rookie contract. Saves a ton of cap space.

Matheson has been playing good though. Hextall should keep him because it makes the team better. POJ is a gamble and like you said 'PROBABLY play it better" but we dont know that

Matheson horrible defensively and not worth that 4.25M and that term. PO-J had 5 points in 16 games last season with the Pens. Played very well. In all probability can handle 3rd pairing NHL minutes no problem. Again, a top 100 prospect in the NHL on any “top 100 prospect” list u can find.

check this out and read the description

https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/2865063

I don't understand why there are some people who don't see the value in Gallagher. If you don't, name one player in the league that gives you everything Gallagher provides. He takes zero shifts off, makes his linemates better, drives play, scores on a 30 goal pace more often than not, is indomnitable, and makes opposing teams' defenses crazy.

Sure. Any player can fall off a cliff, but that's normally preceded by a decline in their abilities making them less effective in their role. Gallagher's style doesn't require much ability, only determination and effort. He's not a model for typical regression.

Even IF he were to decline, he's proven effective in lesser roles, while still producing. He doesn't need to be in your top 6 to provide value. You also aren't picking him up to use 5 years down the road, but for what he brings now.

He's also not going to be available. Even if Montreal rebuilds, he won't be traded without requesting it. That means it's going to cost a lot to even have a chance.
At least a 1st, top RHD prospect (based on current need), and a potentially flippable asset for cap. If you aren't going at least that far, no point broaching the subject.

Good talk here, but I just feel saying that if Bergevin is around, he'll never trade Gally. He loves this guy too much and he's a fan favorite and could well be the next captain.

This year, MTL clearly lacks a D (can be either LD or RD) but if they dont plan on resigning Chiarot, they'll also need a D unless Romanov takes a big step (not started well) and unless they are very high on a D prospect (maybe Guhle but why would a bottom team rush its prospects...).

Something around Gally for Matheson (wtf is that contrat tho) or Pettersson + ZAR as a cap dump could make sense for a trade this season. Obviously PIT would add. If it's Joseph, it could overcrowd MTL LD : they have so many prospects LD

Saying that, It could Gally for Matheson/Pettersson + ZAR + Joseph + pick