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Forsberg TDL

Créé par: bhuntlol
Équipe: 2021-22 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 24 oct. 2021
Publié: 24 oct. 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Transactions
TOR
  1. Forsberg, Filip (3 000 000 $ retained)
NSH
  1. Hirvonen, Roni [Liste de réserve]
  2. Kerfoot, Alexander
  3. Miettinen, Veeti [Liste de réserve]
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (TOR)
  5. Choix de 4e ronde en 2023 (TOR)
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2281 500 000 $80 934 783 $0 $400 000 $565 217 $
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796 667 $796 667 $
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RFA - 3
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1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
C
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1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
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2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
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750 000 $750 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
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900 000 $900 000 $
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NTC
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5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
DG/DD
NTC
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1 650 000 $1 650 000 $
G
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5 625 000 $5 625 000 $
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UFA - 3
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance400 000 $$400K)
DD
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3 800 000 $3 800 000 $
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M-NTC
UFA - 3
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5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
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2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
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UFA - 2
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1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
DG/DD
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Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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1 645 000 $1 645 000 $
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24 oct. 2021 à 21 h 33
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You sure you want to give up a lottery pick?
24 oct. 2021 à 21 h 38
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
You sure you want to give up a lottery pick?


talk to me when the leafs end up top 5 in the league and go on a cup run bozo
24 oct. 2021 à 21 h 43
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I'd be open to trading Forsberg, but not for that return. NSH declines.
24 oct. 2021 à 22 h 9
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I'd be open to trading Forsberg, but not for that return. NSH declines.


its a deadline deal youre not gonna get much more for 20 games of a player
24 oct. 2021 à 23 h 1
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its a deadline deal youre not gonna get much more for 20 games of a player


The pieces coming back aren't of much interest to me. I don't want to take Kerfoot, and NSH has been actively beefing up their lineup of late. Smaller prospects like Hirvonen and Miettinen don't fit with the direction the Preds are heading in.
25 oct. 2021 à 8 h 12
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its a deadline deal youre not gonna get much more for 20 games of a player


It’s more a question of fit.

Kerfoot does nothing for Nashville. Bottom 6 is overflowing with players competing to get to the NHL and Kerfoot isn’t a top 6 player.

As @gmgb pointed out, Nashville is trying to get bigger and more physical. We have some smaller prospects already
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25 oct. 2021 à 14 h 30
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The pieces coming back aren't of much interest to me. I don't want to take Kerfoot, and NSH has been actively beefing up their lineup of late. Smaller prospects like Hirvonen and Miettinen don't fit with the direction the Preds are heading in.


yes cause the mentality of not drafting or trading for smaller players that are highly skilled cause they dont hit or arent big enough has worked for so many years in the NHL🤦🏻 probably the most braindead thing ive ever heard
25 oct. 2021 à 15 h 12
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yes cause the mentality of not drafting or trading for smaller players that are highly skilled cause they dont hit or arent big enough has worked for so many years in the NHL🤦🏻 probably the most braindead thing ive ever heard


The irony of a Leafs fan advising on how to have NHL success aside, "highly skilled" is pretty subjective. We're talking about Hirvonen and Miettinen here, not Paul Kariya and Martin St. Louis. Even if they both pan out, these are a couple of guys with Rocco Grimaldi upside. Forgive me if that doesn't wow me in a trade where NSH gives up their best forward with max retention, and has to take an unwanted contract back too.
25 oct. 2021 à 21 h 53
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The irony of a Leafs fan advising on how to have NHL success aside, "highly skilled" is pretty subjective. We're talking about Hirvonen and Miettinen here, not Paul Kariya and Martin St. Louis. Even if they both pan out, these are a couple of guys with Rocco Grimaldi upside. Forgive me if that doesn't wow me in a trade where NSH gives up their best forward with max retention, and has to take an unwanted contract back too.

its a deadline deal, what are the chances of forsberg re signing? slim to none? youre expecting to get back a martin st louis or paul kariya for a rental lmfao
26 oct. 2021 à 0 h 7
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its a deadline deal, what are the chances of forsberg re signing? slim to none? youre expecting to get back a martin st louis or paul kariya for a rental lmfao



You misunderstand. I never said I was expecting a St. Louis or Kariya. I was illustrating that you're trying to sell the B and C prospects you're offering as "highly skilled".

I don't think NSH's chances of re-signing Forsberg are as slim as you think. Sure it's possible he might want a change of scenery. He's never brought it up, so we can't know. If it's mainly about money for him, NSH has more cap space to work with than most teams, and the tax advantage in Tennessee gives them a leg up over most of the league too. Personally, I think the Preds should sell on him, and keep going with the youth movement. I think they've selected the vets they want to help play with the kids (Ekholm, Granlund), and should keep amassing futures right now.

I think the absolute low end of acceptable deadline returns for a player like Forsberg should be at least a 1st and a prospect equal in value to Hirvonen (but one that suits NSH's needs better than him). That would be without NSH having to retain salary or take back an unwanted cap dump though. The 4th and Miettinen aren't incentive enough for the retention and Kerfoot, and the rest of the return is less than ideal to begin with.

Not that any of this matters much as, it's really not looking like TOR is going to be in a position to think about playoff rentals they can't afford anyway.
 
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