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What If The Cap Went Up

Date de création initiale: 22 oct. 2021
Publié: 22 oct. 2021
Équipe: 2021-22 Maple Leafs de Toronto
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I'm sure you can make this type of post for every team but I feel no team was impacted more by the flat cap than Toronto. They paid all these big name forwards big money and now have little money to improve the rest of the team. Of course, the front office deserves credit for bringing in solid players at low cost, but most of these guys don't have pedigree. They are ideally fourth line/third pair players who are given a role that's over their head. It's just not stable.
Transactions
1.
TOR
  1. Pietrangelo, Alex
Détails additionnels:
*Signed Instead
VGK
  1. Holl, Justin
2.
TOR
  1. Cizikas, Casey
Détails additionnels:
*Signed Instead
NYI
  1. Ritchie, Nick
  2. Engvall, Pierre
3.
TOR
  1. Galchenyuk, Alex
Détails additionnels:
*Retained
ARI
    4.
    TOR
    1. Brooks, Adam
    Détails additionnels:
    *Retained
    MTL
      Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
      • Phil Kessel: 1 200 000 $ (15%)
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      TOR
      TOR
      2023
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      TOR
      TOR
      TOR
      TOR
      TOR
      2024
      TOR
      TOR
      TOR
      TOR
      TOR
      TOR
      TOR
      TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
      2288 000 000 $87 399 783 $0 $0 $600 217 $

      Formation

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      TOR
      Kerfoot, Alexander
      3 500 000 $
      C, AG
      UFA - 2
      TOR
      Matthews, Auston
      11 640 250 $
      C
      UFA - 3
      TOR
      Marner, Mitchell
      10 903 000 $
      AD
      UFA - 4
      ARI
      Galchenyuk, Alex
      750 000 $
      AG, C, AD
      UFA - 1
      TOR
      Tavares, John
      11 000 000 $
      C
      NMC
      UFA - 4
      TOR
      Nylander, William
      6 962 366 $
      AD, AG
      UFA - 3
      TOR
      Bunting, Michael
      950 000 $
      AG
      UFA - 2
      NYI
      Cizikas, Casey
      2 500 000 $
      C
      UFA - 6
      TOR
      Kämpf, David
      1 500 000 $
      C, AD
      UFA - 2
      MTL
      Brooks, Adam
      725 000 $
      C
      RFA - 1
      TOR
      Spezza, Jason
      750 000 $
      C, AD
      UFA - 1
      TOR
      Kase, Ondrej
      1 250 000 $
      AD
      RFA - 1
      Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
      TOR
      Rielly, Morgan
      5 000 000 $
      DG
      NMC
      UFA - 1
      TOR
      Brodie, TJ
      5 000 000 $
      DD
      NTC
      UFA - 3
      TOR
      Mrázek, Petr
      3 800 000 $
      G
      NTC
      UFA - 3
      TOR
      Muzzin, Jake
      5 625 000 $
      DG
      NTC
      UFA - 3
      VGK
      Pietrangelo, Alex
      8 800 000 $
      DD
      NMC
      UFA - 6
      TOR
      Campbell, Jack
      1 650 000 $
      G
      UFA - 1
      TOR
      Sandin, Rasmus
      894 167 $
      DG
      RFA - 1
      TOR
      Dermott, Travis
      1 500 000 $
      DG/DD
      RFA - 2
      Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
      TOR
      Amadio, Michael
      750 000 $
      C, AD
      RFA - 1
      TOR
      Mikheyev, Ilya
      1 645 000 $
      AG, AD
      UFA - 1
      TOR
      Biega, Alex
      750 000 $
      DD
      UFA - 1

      Unités spéciales

      Avantage numérique 1
      Nylander, W.
      Tavares, J.
      Matthews, A.
      Pietrangelo, A.
      Rielly, M.
      Avantage numérique 2
      Marner, M.
      Kerfoot, A.
      Galchenyuk, A.
      Spezza, J.
      Sandin, R.
      Infériorité numérique 1
      Cizikas, C.
      Kerfoot, A.
      Muzzin, J.
      Brodie, T.
      Infériorité numérique 2
      Kämpf, D.
      Bunting, M.
      Dermott, T.
      Pietrangelo, A.

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      22 oct. à 20 h 20
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      LongtimeLeafsufferer
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      Sorry, I never understand this logic. So if the cap went up 10% wouldn't all those UFAs that you signed under 81.5m cap expect another 10% more too? And the other teams would have an increased cap to spend on players too....not just the Leafs. Sorry no way the roster looks like this.
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      22 oct. à 20 h 27
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      You don’t want Chucky, i love him but he’s a black hole defensively and offensively is middling
      22 oct. à 20 h 33
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      In Pridham we trust
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      It was Brodie or Pietrangelo. Leafs wouldn't have gotten both.

      Also if the cap goes up that high, Hyman is likely still a Leaf.

      Galchenyuk lives in Arizona, cap up or down has nothing to do with him not being a Leaf.
      22 oct. à 21 h 2
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      Quoting: palhal
      Sorry, I never understand this logic. So if the cap went up 10% wouldn't all those UFAs that you signed under 81.5m cap expect another 10% more too? And the other teams would have an increased cap to spend on players too....not just the Leafs. Sorry no way the roster looks like this.


      I thought it was rumored that Pietrangelo wanted to sign with the Leafs 9x8.
      22 oct. à 21 h 3
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      Quoting: A_Habs_fan
      You don’t want Chucky, i love him but he’s a black hole defensively and offensively is middling


      Yeah he's got a lot of weaknesses. But he played really good for the price in Toronto.
      22 oct. à 21 h 3
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      Quoting: Barilko14
      It was Brodie or Pietrangelo. Leafs wouldn't have gotten both.

      Also if the cap goes up that high, Hyman is likely still a Leaf.

      Galchenyuk lives in Arizona, cap up or down has nothing to do with him not being a Leaf.


      Fair enough. Maybe they would've signed a cheaper 2RD like Demelo instead.
      22 oct. à 22 h 30
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      Galchenyuk 2nd line lol
      22 oct. à 22 h 43
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      Quoting: Penguins_Legend_Sheary
      Fair enough. Maybe they would've signed a cheaper 2RD like Demelo instead.


      DeMelo re-signed with Wpg just before UFA opened.
      23 oct. à 8 h 14
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      Quoting: Barilko14
      DeMelo re-signed with Wpg just before UFA opened.


      I see. Maybe they could’ve traded for Weegar then.
      23 oct. à 8 h 16
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      Quoting: Hedman77
      Galchenyuk 2nd line lol


      Like I always say, if you have 2 elite centres, you don’t need to spend too much on wingers. They should be able to make fringe NHL players score 60 points.
      23 oct. à 11 h 46
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      Quoting: Penguins_Legend_Sheary
      I see. Maybe they could’ve traded for Weegar then.


      Rumour was Leafs balked at giving up Dermott plus Johnsson, flat cap wasn't a factor.

      Holl is a Keefe/Dubas guy, he was a Leaf last year no matter what other circumstances were happening.
      23 oct. à 16 h 27
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      Cizikas could of choosed more money elsewhere this offseason regardless the cap. He choosed to stay as an Islander by his heart. He even stated that he wanted to ”die an Islander”, so no, everyone doesn’t want to play for the Maple Leafs.
      23 oct. à 22 h 50
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      Quoting: Penguins_Legend_Sheary
      Like I always say, if you have 2 elite centres, you don’t need to spend too much on wingers. They should be able to make fringe NHL players score 60 points.


      Because that's been working great for Toronto so far
      24 oct. à 12 h 32
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      Quoting: Barilko14
      Rumour was Leafs balked at giving up Dermott plus Johnsson, flat cap wasn't a factor.

      Holl is a Keefe/Dubas guy, he was a Leaf last year no matter what other circumstances were happening.


      Yes I know that the front office really likes Holl. IDK, he's been pretty bad this season.
      24 oct. à 12 h 33
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      Quoting: Hedman77
      Because that's been working great for Toronto so far


      It's cuz our centers are not performing up to their usual standard. Neither is Marner. If these guys figure it out, they will be a force.
      24 oct. à 17 h 31
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      Quoting: Penguins_Legend_Sheary
      Yes I know that the front office really likes Holl. IDK, he's been pretty bad this season.


      I'm not saying it was the best way to go. But there's no point in suggesting if there was changes to cap, that Holl might not have been on the Leafs last year.
      24 oct. à 21 h 37
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      Quoting: Barilko14
      I'm not saying it was the best way to go. But there's no point in suggesting if there was changes to cap, that Holl might not have been on the Leafs last year.


      Agree, the front office's obsession is Holl is starting to become questioned by fans of social media as well.
       
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