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2021/22 NHL Season Discussion thread #2

22 oct. à 10 h 32
#376
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Quoting: SevenLeg



Ehh, McDavid definitely could reach 150, 200 though is a bit of a stretch, the only player to have reached 200 points is Gretzky and the only ones to have a 200 point pace are Gretzky and Lemieux
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22 oct. à 10 h 41
#377
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Quoting: SevenLeg
Me: Finally 2021-22 first analytics have been released!

Erik Gudbranson being the 5th defenseman in WAR : cool cool


Noah Dobson top 10 GAR 😎
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22 oct. à 10 h 41
#378
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At least Montreal isn't down bad defensively i guess, idk, trying to stay positive is hard
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22 oct. à 10 h 45
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Quoting: BuFfaLOFaN
That's fair, but ur talking a top 10 player in the world.


He's not top 10 lol
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22 oct. à 10 h 45
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Quoting: A_Habs_fan




At least Montreal isn't down bad defensively i guess, idk, trying to stay positive is hard


Allen and Andersen had a great game yesterday
22 oct. à 10 h 50
#381
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Quoting: KakkoForMauriceRichardAward
Allen and Andersen had a great game yesterday


Allen is good yeah, but he can't Carey us when we can't score or defend, man do we need a leadership core to create and Edmundson, Byron, Price to come back
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22 oct. à 10 h 57
#382
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Quoting: Db1899
Noah Dobson top 10 GAR 😎


Ben Chiarot top 10 GAR cool but top 10 worst cool cool cool
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22 oct. à 11 h 2
#383
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Quoting: Db1899
Noah Dobson top 10 GAR 😎


And he’s doing it with a 6’ 9’ Slowpoke as his d partner
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22 oct. à 11 h 10
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Quoting: AndrewLadd
And he’s doing it with a 6’ 9’ Slowpoke as his d partner


A lot of Dobson slander over the last week because he couldn’t cover for charas mistakes.
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22 oct. à 11 h 10
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Quoting: BuFfaLOFaN
That's fair, but ur talking a top 10 player in the world.


Okay I'll bite, on the top of my head, forwards only:

Point
Kucherov
Stamkos
Barkov
Ovechkin
Crosby
Matthews
McDavid
Panarin
Kane
Aho
Draisaitl
Petterson
Stone
MacKinnon
Bergeron
Marchand

Yeah, there ya go. 17 names.
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22 oct. à 11 h 12
#386
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Quoting: SevenLeg
Ben Chiarot top 10 GAR cool but top 10 worst cool cool cool


Lol I just saw EH posted the top 10 in GAR and xGAR on Twitter. I’m going to subscribe to EH soon, I had Jfresh but i cancelled it.
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22 oct. à 11 h 13
#387
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Quoting: PaulieWalnuts
Okay I'll bite, on the top of my head, forwards only:

Point
Kucherov
Stamkos
Barkov
Ovechkin
Crosby
Matthews
McDavid
Panarin
Kane
Aho
Draisaitl
Petterson
Stone
MacKinnon
Bergeron
Marchand

Yeah, there ya go. 17 names.


Remove Stamkos, Eichel is better

But agreed with the rest.

And if we're talking about top 10 skaters, then among the best we need to add the likes of Fox, Makar, Hedman and a few others, so Eichel isn't even top 20 lmao
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22 oct. à 11 h 17
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Quoting: KakkoForMauriceRichardAward
Remove Stamkos, Eichel is better

But agreed with the rest.

And if we're talking about top 10 skaters, then among the best we need to add the likes of Fox, Makar, Hedman and a few others, so Eichel isn't even top 20 lmao


I feel like Fox, Makar, Hedman, McAvoy are usually the consensus top 4 D and then you add the likes of Pulock, Pelech, Pietrangelo, Theodore, Ekblad, Weegar, Heiskanen, etc
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22 oct. à 11 h 18
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Quoting: A_Habs_fan
I feel like Fox, Makar, Hedman, McAvoy are usually the consensus top 4 D and then you add the likes of Pulock, Pelech, Pietrangelo, Theodore, Ekblad, Weegar, Heiskanen, etc


IMO the top 5 is this:
Fox, Makar, Hedman, McAvoy(OvErPaId) and Petro, the order doesn't really matter cause you can't really go wrong, they're all great options
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22 oct. à 11 h 22
#390
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Quoting: Db1899
Lol I just saw EH posted the top 10 in GAR and xGAR on Twitter. I’m going to subscribe to EH soon, I had Jfresh but i cancelled it.


JFresh used to take his stats from Evolving Hockey but I'm pretty sure they had to tell him to stop because he was "sharing" the stats for free. He's working with Patrick Bacon now, and I don't trust his models.
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22 oct. à 11 h 24
#391
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Quoting: SevenLeg
JFresh used to take his stats from Evolving Hockey but I'm pretty sure they had to tell him to stop because he was "sharing" the stats for free. He's working with Patrick Bacon now, and I don't trust his models.


That’s correct - I like Jfresh but I feel like EH is a more accurate representation of a players impact , Bacons model puts too much emphasis on finishing.
22 oct. à 11 h 28
#392
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Quoting: Db1899
That’s correct - I like Jfresh but I feel like EH is a more accurate representation of a players impact , Bacons model puts too much emphasis on finishing.


They all have their pros and cons tbh. EH have a tendency to overrate depth players by not putting enough emphasis on QOC, while Dom's has trouble taking defense into account.
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22 oct. à 11 h 34
#393
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Quoting: SevenLeg
They all have their pros and cons tbh. EH have a tendency to overrate depth players by not putting enough emphasis on QOC, while Dom's has trouble taking defense into account.


Yep, there's always something about analytics, which is why you should always mix the eye test, with stats and advanced stats/analytics to form opinions on players
22 oct. à 11 h 58
#394
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5rfkjj.jpg

I made this
I may have to use it a good bit when people undervalue Korpi on ACGM
It was less funny in execution
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22 oct. à 12 h 4
#395
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Evan Bouchard is a rookie, no?
22 oct. à 12 h 17
#396
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Quoting: Bobcat205
5rfkjj.jpg

I made this
I may have to use it a good bit when people undervalue Korpi on ACGM
It was less funny in execution


A for effort.
22 oct. à 12 h 28
#397
Sit back and relax..
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Buffalo and San Jose are competing to stay undefeated tonight and possibly both tying Florida/ Edmonton (assuming EDM doesn’t pick up a point tonight) as the top teams in the league.

NHL broke.
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22 oct. à 12 h 44
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Quoting: yikes
Buffalo and San Jose are competing to stay undefeated tonight and possibly both tying Florida/ Edmonton (assuming EDM doesn’t pick up a point tonight) as the top teams in the league.

NHL broke.


Yep, Canes, STL, Minny also undefeated
22 oct. à 12 h 46
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Quoting: A_Habs_fan
Yep, Canes, STL, Minny also undefeated


It’s gonna be interesting to watch what happens with Minny. Because the better they do the worse that Suter buyout looks. Parise was fine but Minny fans/ some public think they shouldn’t be all in with all that Deadcap but they quite literally are a dark horse for the Central with a TDL acquisition for their top 6 C.
22 oct. à 13 h 21
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Black Lives Matter
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Quoting: yikes
Buffalo and San Jose are competing to stay undefeated tonight and possibly both tying Florida/ Edmonton (assuming EDM doesn’t pick up a point tonight) as the top teams in the league.

NHL broke.


It's a yearly tradition for the Sabres to start the season strong and end up 1st in the league (or at least close) in November and then struggle for the rest of the year and miss the playoffs.
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