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Kravtsov to SJS

Créé par: Finski
Équipe: 2021-22 Rangers de New York
Date de création initiale: 17 oct. 2021
Publié: 17 oct. 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Fair trade SJS?
Pajuniemi is on the 3rd because I really like him and see him as the perfect slot in for the Rangers on the 3rd.
Yes Strome is worth a 1st, don't kid yourself saying he isn't

If you disagree with this trade, let me know in the comments (also there is a reason none of are the actual GM of any team, so don't get heated).
Transactions
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NYR
  1. Choix de 7e ronde en 2022 (NYI)
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (OTT)
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SJS
  1. Brodzinski, Jonny
  2. Kravtsov, Vitali
  3. Reunanen, Tarmo
  4. Choix de 4e ronde en 2022 (WPG)
  5. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (OTT)
  6. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (NYR)
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NYR
  1. Choix de 5e ronde en 2024 (ARI)
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17 oct. 2021 à 23 h 53
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Hes worth a 1st but not Ottawa's 1st
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Kravtsov and the first is more than enough
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17 oct. 2021 à 23 h 54
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Quoting: Ragsandbluesfan
Hes worth a 1st but not Ottawa's 1st


Well think Ottawa = insert team name here
17 oct. 2021 à 23 h 56
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Quoting: CMcAvoy73
Kravtsov and the first is more than enough


Rest is filler besides the 2nd really
17 oct. 2021 à 23 h 58
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Quoting: Ragsandbluesfan
Rest is filler besides the 2nd really


A tier prospect
B tier prospect
Depth player
1st
2nd
4th

wouldn't call it filler but hey if it makes it work it makes it work
18 oct. 2021 à 0 h 0
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Quoting: CMcAvoy73
Kravtsov and the first is more than enough


Agreed, Kravtsov and OTT 1st is plenty
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18 oct. 2021 à 0 h 2
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Agreed, Kravtsov and OTT 1st is plenty


If Hertl were that cheap, I would pull the trigger on it, but I want to give SJS a few pieces they can work with (Tarmo and a few extra picks) to make the SJS fans happy
18 oct. 2021 à 0 h 3
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Quoting: Mursu
A tier prospect
B tier prospect
Depth player
1st
2nd
4th

wouldn't call it filler but hey if it makes it work it makes it work


Idk if Reunanen is B-tier, also Brdozinski isn't depth hes an AHL'er
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If Hertl were that cheap, I would pull the trigger on it, but I want to give SJS a few pieces they can work with (Tarmo and a few extra picks) to make the SJS fans happy


That's a potential top prospect and potential lottery pick. SJS would take that for sure.
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18 oct. 2021 à 0 h 4
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The trade itself is a crazy overpay, but it could easily blow up in NYR's face depending on his extension and Fox's extension.

Ultimately I just don't think it's worth it. In my opinion, stick with Strome, or go with Chytil. I'm not saying Hertl sucks by any means, but I struggle to see how him and his likely 7million dollar cap hit - that will likely see one of Lafreniere, Kakko, or Miller to be lost - will be better than the current "Bread and Butter" chemistry we have. Strome should come in at 5million maximum on his next deal. Otherwise we give the reigns to Chytil. It's just too tight with the cap hit to do this, unless some seriously drastic/impossible measures are made
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18 oct. 2021 à 0 h 6
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Quoting: mvp13
The trade itself is a crazy overpay, but it could easily blow up in NYR's face depending on his extension and Fox's extension.

Ultimately I just don't think it's worth it. In my opinion, stick with Strome, or go with Chytil. I'm not saying Hertl sucks by any means, but I struggle to see how him and his likely 7million dollar cap hit - that will likely see one of Lafreniere, Kakko, or Miller to be lost - will be better than the current "Bread and Butter" chemistry we have. Strome should come in at 5million maximum on his next deal. Otherwise we give the reigns to Chytil. It's just too tight with the cap hit to do this, unless some seriously drastic/impossible measures are made


I agree with you just playing around with a few ideas
18 oct. 2021 à 0 h 7
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Quoting: jwg314
Agreed, Kravtsov and OTT 1st is plenty


Has any rental in nhl history fetched such a price?
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Quoting: Ragsandbluesfan
Rest is filler besides the 2nd really


Sue. It’s an overpay
18 oct. 2021 à 0 h 8
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Quoting: Ragsandbluesfan
Idk if Reunanen is B-tier, also Brdozinski isn't depth hes an AHL'er


Tarmo is a B-Tier prospect no sugar coating it but a talented one at that, ill admit
18 oct. 2021 à 0 h 8
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This is an easy no
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Has any rental in nhl history fetched such a price?


No, I think it's more than generous.
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This is an easy no


You're out of your mind.
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I agree with you just playing around with a few ideas


Gotchyah, no problem!

If NYR manage to get Fox on a smaller AAV deal than most people generally expect, it's possible it could work out. But he's probably gonna get the 9+mil, and it's even tight to keep Strome's 5mil after that
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This is an easy no


I knew I was waiting for this comment! What would you like give a realistic answer please
18 oct. 2021 à 0 h 10
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A tier prospect
B tier prospect
Depth player
1st
2nd
4th

wouldn't call it filler but hey if it makes it work it makes it work


Who's the A tiered prospect? I don’t see one.
18 oct. 2021 à 0 h 11
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Quoting: mvp13
The trade itself is a crazy overpay, but it could easily blow up in NYR's face depending on his extension and Fox's extension.

Ultimately I just don't think it's worth it. In my opinion, stick with Strome, or go with Chytil. I'm not saying Hertl sucks by any means, but I struggle to see how him and his likely 7million dollar cap hit - that will likely see one of Lafreniere, Kakko, or Miller to be lost - will be better than the current "Bread and Butter" chemistry we have. Strome should come in at 5million maximum on his next deal. Otherwise we give the reigns to Chytil. It's just too tight with the cap hit to do this, unless some seriously drastic/impossible measures are made


Also true. No way in hell NYR can afford to extend Hertl and Fox.
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Gotchyah, no problem!

If NYR manage to get Fox on a smaller AAV deal than most people generally expect, it's possible it could work out. But he's probably gonna get the 9+mil, and it's even tight to keep Strome's 5mil after that


Just make deals where the AAV hit goes growing past 2024 (with the CBA coming to an end) in a post-covid world the salary cap should shoot up so that is possible to make it work
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I knew I was waiting for this comment! What would you like give a realistic answer please


Don't even humor him.
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Quoting: glarson17
Who's the A tiered prospect? I don’t see one.


Kravtsov is an A tier prospect if you disagree with that then I presume your A tier prospects are (my S tier prospects) generational talents (such as Laf, Kaapo, Stutzle, etc). A tier prospects are prospects with a top 6 ceilings, but who will not turn into Crosby or McDavid.

A tier prospects have a ceiling similar to Barzal, Strome, Eberle, Kreider, etc.
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Quoting: Mursu
Kravtsov is an A tier prospect if you disagree with that then I presume your A tier prospects are (my S tier prospects) generational talents (such as Laf, Kaapo, Stutzle, etc). A tier prospects are prospects with a top 6 ceilings, but who will not turn into Crosby or McDavid.

A tier prospects have a ceiling similar to Barzal, Strome, Eberle, Kreider, etc.


Your argument was fine until you included Barzal in that group.
 
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