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Eichel not realistic

Créé par: edeangel84
Date de création initiale: oct 17, 2021
Publié: 17 oct à 19 h 14
Équipe: 2021-22 Penguins de Pittsburgh
Transactions
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PIT
  1. Eichel, Jack
BUF
  1. Aston-Reese, Zach
  2. Kapanen, Kasperi
  3. Pettersson, Marcus
  4. Poulin, Samuel
  5. Joseph, Pierre-Olivier
  6. 2022 1e round pick (PIT)
  7. 2023 1e round pick (PIT)
Rachats de contrats
  • Jack Johnson: 1 166 667 $
ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
2022
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
2023
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
TOR
2024
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2081 500 000 $81 828 031 $0 $0 $-328 031 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
PIT
Guentzel, Jake
6 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 3
PIT
Crosby, Sidney
8 700 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 4
PIT
Simon, Dominik
750 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
PIT
Zucker, Jason
5 500 000 $
AG, AD
NTC
UFA - 2
BUF
Eichel, Jack
10 000 000 $
C
UFA - 5
PIT
Carter, Jeff
2 636 364 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
PIT
McGinn, Brock
2 750 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 4
PIT
Malkin, Evgeni
9 500 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 1
PIT
Rust, Bryan
3 500 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
PIT
Lafferty, Sam
750 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
PIT
Blueger, Teddy
2 200 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 2
PIT
Heinen, Danton
1 100 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
PIT
Dumoulin, Brian
4 100 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 2
PIT
Letang, Kris
7 250 000 $
DD
NMC NTC
UFA - 1
PIT
Jarry, Tristan
3 500 000 $
G
UFA - 2
PIT
Matheson, Michael
4 875 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 5
PIT
Marino, John
4 400 000 $
DD
UFA - 6
PIT
DeSmith, Casey
1 250 000 $
G
UFA - 1
PIT
Riikola, Juuso
1 150 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
PIT
Ruhwedel, Chad
750 000 $
DD
UFA - 1

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17 oct à 19 h 19
#1
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WAAAAAYYYYYYYY too much!!!
Maybe Kapanen+Joseph+Pettersson+1rst (conditional to 2nd).
17 oct à 19 h 50
#2
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Quoting: Chabotrrorr
WAAAAAYYYYYYYY too much!!!
Maybe Kapanen+Joseph+Pettersson+1rst (conditional to 2nd).


I actually think the poster's offer is fair. Do the Sabres really want Pettersson? He's just a cap dump for the Penguins. Kapaenen and the picks are what Buffalo wants.
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17 oct à 19 h 56
#3
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Quoting: Leafs_and_Sens_Fan
I actually think the poster's offer is fair. Do the Sabres really want Pettersson? He's just a cap dump for the Penguins. Kapaenen and the picks are what Buffalo wants.


Pettersson has been really good this season actually. He definitely has lots of value. It is Matheson who stinks.
17 oct à 20 h 14
#4
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Quoting: Penguins_Legend_Sheary
Pettersson has been really good this season actually. He definitely has lots of value. It is Matheson who stinks.


matheson isnt even bad. hes better offensive and a better skater. pettersson is better defensively
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17 oct à 20 h 36
#5
Big Sheary Fan
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Quoting: loganocota
matheson isnt even bad. hes better offensive and a better skater. pettersson is better defensively


Yeah I agree, both are pretty good. But Pettersson makes a good shutdown pair with Marino, so they'll be asked to handle tough matchups.
17 oct à 20 h 38
#6
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By the way @edeangel84, I would play Rust on the top line with Sid, Geno-Eichel-Carter, ZAR-Blueger-McGinn and Zucker-Heinen-Simon.
17 oct à 20 h 38
#7
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Quoting: Penguins_Legend_Sheary
Yeah I agree, both are pretty good. But Pettersson makes a good shutdown pair with Marino, so they'll be asked to handle tough matchups.


One of Matheson or Pettersson will have to be moved. It’s too much money down the left. Only way they both stay is if Dumo goes but that doesn’t make sense unless Tanger leaves this offseason
17 oct à 20 h 48
#8
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Quoting: Penguins_Legend_Sheary
By the way edeangel84, I would play Rust on the top line with Sid, Geno-Eichel-Carter, ZAR-Blueger-McGinn and Zucker-Heinen-Simon.


I only have Simon in the lineup because Sid likes him on his line. Otherwise I’d rather see Zohorna in the lineup
17 oct à 21 h 26
#9
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Quoting: Penguins_Legend_Sheary
Pettersson has been really good this season actually. He definitely has lots of value. It is Matheson who stinks.


Buffalo has Dahlin and Power Pettersson would be the 3rd pairing D making 4M/year
18 oct à 10 h 18
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Modifié 18 oct à 10 h 23
Quoting: Leafs_and_Sens_Fan
I actually think the poster's offer is fair...I agree
Quoting: Penguins_Legend_Sheary
... But Pettersson makes a good shutdown pair with Marino...Dahlin offensive LHD, Power second pairing Pettersson Shut Down Defenseman!
Quoting: edeangel84
One of Matheson or Pettersson will have to be moved...I agree.
Quoting: Leafs_and_Sens_Fan
Buffalo has Dahlin and Power Pettersson would be the 3rd pairing D making 4M/year Really expensive LHD
While it a bit of on over pay, the pieces are different from Buffalo needs.
Aston-Reese, how many 9 goal/yr LW does Buffalo need?
Kapanen, Perfect he would slip into the line up this year. Very versatile RW.
Pettersson, and Joseph are both LHD, as noted above and in many other posts Buffalo has many above average LHD.
Poulin, good addition, could be in the line up next year, but he has Olofsson, Skinner and maybe Peterka ahead of him.
2022 1st round pick (PIT) and 2023 1st round pick (PIT) these would obviously be closer to 2nd round picks than lotter selections, but they are first round picks.

Over all this is decent offer.
Two firsts, LW prospect, versatile RW, shut-down LHD
If some of Pettersson's salary could be retained he is flipped for decent value this would work IMO.
Now that two LHD are moved would Pittsburgh want one in return?
Hagg, Butcher and Bryson all have lower cap hits. What would Pittsburgh offer for one of them?

EDIT here is a crazy thought, drop Pettersson and 2023 first while Buffalo adds Miller (50% retained) and Pittsburgh adds Letang?
This gives Pittsburgh more cap space this year and Buffalo more cap space next year.
At the TDL Letang will return at least a first and more.
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