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Hertl TDL and Lines When Healthy

Créé par: UpsideDownQue
Équipe: 2021-22 Avalanche du Colorado
Date de création initiale: 16 oct. 2021
Publié: 16 oct. 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Maybe Newhook will be back up in the NHL by the end of the year, if so put him on the 3rd line and take out Helm/Ranta/Injured guys/etc and shift Compher down to the 4th line
Transactions
COL
  1. Hertl, Tomas (2 625 000 $ retained)
Détails additionnels:
Hertl extends 7x7
SJS
  1. Olausson, Oskar
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (COL)
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (COL)
Détails additionnels:
conditional 2023 3rd rounder if COL wins the cup in either '22 or '23 and Hertl plays in over 75% of the Avs playoff games in that year
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2022
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2023
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2024
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2181 500 000 $80 585 630 $1 741 463 $2 925 000 $914 370 $

Formation

Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
AG, C
NMC
UFA - 8
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6 300 000 $6 300 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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9 250 000 $9 250 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 4
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
4 900 000 $4 900 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
C
UFA - 2
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance425 000 $$425K)
AG
RFA - 2
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
C, AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
725 000 $725 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
4 100 000 $4 100 000 $
DG
UFA - 3
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
9 000 000 $9 000 000 $
DD
UFA - 6
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance2 500 000 $$2M)
DG/DD
RFA - 2
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
DD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 6
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
750 000 $750 000 $
DG
UFA - 1

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16 oct. 2021 à 19 h 42
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newhook from what I understood was a cap issue bc of all the injuries
16 oct. 2021 à 20 h 1
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Is Hertls extension in place prior to the trade or no? Either way, I don’t see this being enough for Hertl especially with that retention.
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16 oct. 2021 à 20 h 4
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with this retention and an extension the cost is much higher sorry to say. It will take Newhook.
16 oct. 2021 à 20 h 15
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newhook from what I understood was a cap issue bc of all the injuries


I think thats part of it but they also want him to get some AHL time to increase his confidence


16 oct. 2021 à 20 h 18
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No Newhook no Hertl deal (Unless Avs are the only team he will accept a trade to)
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16 oct. 2021 à 20 h 19
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Quoting: crankshaft
with this retention and an extension the cost is much higher sorry to say. It will take Newhook.


I dont see it. What other team is there that will drive up the price to a Newhook level prospect? BOS has nobody of that caliber and VGK has Krebs but wont move him for Eichel so presumably they wont move him for Hertl. Not sure what other teams will be in on him but those teams and COL are the first ones that come to mind for me
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Quoting: papishark
No Newhook no Hertl deal (Unless Avs are the only team he will accept a trade to)


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I dont see it. What other team is there that will drive up the price to a Newhook level prospect? BOS has nobody of that caliber and VGK has Krebs but wont move him for Eichel so presumably they wont move him for Hertl. Not sure what other teams will be in on him but those teams and COL are the first ones that come to mind for me


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16 oct. 2021 à 20 h 21
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It will easily happen if all playoff teams can make an offer. This is what you get if you dont have many options.

Hertl will easily be the best rental on the market in years, and you know how desperate teams get.
16 oct. 2021 à 20 h 32
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I dont see it. What other team is there that will drive up the price to a Newhook level prospect? BOS has nobody of that caliber and VGK has Krebs but wont move him for Eichel so presumably they wont move him for Hertl. Not sure what other teams will be in on him but those teams and COL are the first ones that come to mind for me


Vegas can offer Brisson and picks, Boston doesn’t have much to offer, NYR have a ton to offer, Minnesota has Marat K and picks, if Carolina wants in they have a ton of prospects. There could be plenty of suitors, also depends on how the season plays out.
16 oct. 2021 à 20 h 32
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I dont see it. What other team is there that will drive up the price to a Newhook level prospect? BOS has nobody of that caliber and VGK has Krebs but wont move him for Eichel so presumably they wont move him for Hertl. Not sure what other teams will be in on him but those teams and COL are the first ones that come to mind for me


basically every contender will tender an offer for Hertl at the TDL and Wilson isn't letting his most popular and best player go for a couple pennies and a nickel. Hertl does it all and does it very well and picks it up in the playoffs. With retention and a possible extension, it's going to be expensive and someone will pay it.
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It will easily happen if all playoff teams can make an offer. This is what you get if you dont have many options.

Hertl will easily be the best rental on the market in years, and you know how desperate teams get.


All playoff teams can make an offer but Hertl's NTC can narrow that down to 3 teams real quick. At the end of the day if SJS doesnt think Hertl will extend with them they will move him for the best offer at the deadline. What other prospect would another team offer that rivals Newhook? If there is none then theres no reason for COL to include him and SJS will still move him for the best offer
16 oct. 2021 à 20 h 37
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Quoting: glarson17
Vegas can offer Brisson and picks, Boston doesn’t have much to offer, NYR have a ton to offer, Minnesota has Marat K and picks, if Carolina wants in they have a ton of prospects. There could be plenty of suitors, also depends on how the season plays out.


I admit Brisson and Khusnutdinov are good, not sure if theyre on the same level as Newhook, but Brissons off to a good start this year. I think Olausson/Barron/etc are similar in terms of value to those guys though.

Hertl can still narrow the teams down to 3 with his NTC, so some of those teams may not even be in the conversation
16 oct. 2021 à 20 h 41
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basically every contender will tender an offer for Hertl at the TDL and Wilson isn't letting his most popular and best player go for a couple pennies and a nickel. Hertl does it all and does it very well and picks it up in the playoffs. With retention and a possible extension, it's going to be expensive and someone will pay it.


He has a NTC with a 3 team trade list. Depends on how he wants to use that but it could significantly reduce the trade market for him like it did with Hall last year

Also how is a 1st round prospect and a 1st + 3rd = a couple pennies and a nickel?
16 oct. 2021 à 20 h 44
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I admit Brisson and Khusnutdinov are good, not sure if theyre on the same level as Newhook, but Brissons off to a good start this year. I think Olausson/Barron/etc are similar in terms of value to those guys though.

Hertl can still narrow the teams down to 3 with his NTC, so some of those teams may not even be in the conversation


Brisson is special because he is Bordeleau's linemate in Michigan and they have excellent chemistry.
16 oct. 2021 à 20 h 46
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He has a NTC with a 3 team trade list. Depends on how he wants to use that but it could significantly reduce the trade market for him like it did with Hall last year

Also how is a 1st round prospect and a 1st + 3rd = a couple pennies and a nickel?


He was a late first. If not Newhook then Byram and a 1st.
16 oct. 2021 à 20 h 51
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Brisson is special because he is Bordeleau's linemate in Michigan and they have excellent chemistry.


That could be a good option then. Depends on if VGK is willing to move him and what they would add but I think hes similar to Olausson in value. Maybe Olausson+ to make up for that. Also depends on the trade list and everything

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He was a late first.


So? Brisson was too

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If not Newhook then Byram and a 1st.


That is just ridiculous
16 oct. 2021 à 20 h 54
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Quoting: UpsideDownQue
I admit Brisson and Khusnutdinov are good, not sure if theyre on the same level as Newhook, but Brissons off to a good start this year. I think Olausson/Barron/etc are similar in terms of value to those guys though.

Hertl can still narrow the teams down to 3 with his NTC, so some of those teams may not even be in the conversation


The whole point of getting Brisson is because of his chemistry with Bordeleau, its mind blowing how good they are together.






Just watch them at the WJC, they are doing something every single shift.
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Hertl's remaining cap hit at the TDL is just over $1M so 50% retention is about $500K.
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