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The trade that didnt happen at the draft

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      13 oct. 2021 à 12 h 37
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      Is this confirmed?
      13 oct. 2021 à 12 h 38
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      Quoting: goodfella
      Is this confirmed?


      Jeff Marek/TSN said it was definitely in the works. Don't know why SJ backed out or if Sabres backed out. Sabres really wanted Eklund.
      13 oct. 2021 à 12 h 43
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      Sam Reinhart + Isak Rosen for William Eklund


      ...
      13 oct. 2021 à 12 h 45
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      They were talking to Devils about moving up to #4 as well
      13 oct. 2021 à 12 h 46
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      Quoting: Zuki9797
      Sam Reinhart + Isak Rosen for William Eklund


      ...


      Power and Eklund on the same team....
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      13 oct. 2021 à 13 h 10
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      Quoting: NHLfan10506
      They were talking to Devils about moving up to #4 as well


      I'm glad it didn't happen. Eklund already looks like he's going to have a strong year. Potentially even Calder worthy, he wasn't phased by anything at camp or preseason. We'll see.
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      13 oct. 2021 à 13 h 13
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      Quoting: NHLfan10506
      They were talking to Devils about moving up to #4 as well


      I don’t think they were, I thought there was speculation later in the draft with the devils.
      13 oct. 2021 à 13 h 42
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      Quoting: glarson17
      I don’t think they were, I thought there was speculation later in the draft with the devils.


      I think he meant the Sabres moving from 14 to 4. There was SJ/Devils talk but it wasn't as prominent.
      13 oct. 2021 à 13 h 55
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      Quoting: gary_bettman
      Jeff Marek/TSN said it was definitely in the works. Don't know why SJ backed out or if Sabres backed out. Sabres really wanted Eklund.


      The Sharks backed out when Eklund fell to them. If Eklund was already gone the trade probably would've happened.
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      13 oct. 2021 à 14 h 4
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      Quoting: MJC13
      The Sharks backed out when Eklund fell to them. If Eklund was already gone the trade probably would've happened.


      Pretty sure Buffalo was doing the trade to get Eklund that was the point from what I read.
      13 oct. 2021 à 14 h 7
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      Quoting: gary_bettman
      Pretty sure Buffalo was doing the trade to get Eklund that was the point from what I read.


      There had to be another aspect of this, because DW Jr made it clear Eklund was the #2 on SJ's list behind Beniers, have to assume #3 was someone that went above 7th, and SJ liked almost as much as Eklund if this would have ever been in consideration.
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      Quoting: Klara
      There had to be another aspect of this, because DW Jr made it clear Eklund was the #2 on SJ's list behind Beniers, have to assume #3 was someone that went above 7th, and SJ liked almost as much as Eklund if this would have ever been in consideration.


      yes but the information surrounding this is pretty scant.
      13 oct. 2021 à 14 h 44
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      Quoting: goodfella
      Is this confirmed?


      Quoting: gary_bettman
      Jeff Marek/TSN said it was definitely in the works. Don't know why SJ backed out or if Sabres backed out. Sabres really wanted Eklund.


      It was on the sabres youtube as well. BUF was going to trade Reinhart+14 for 7OA, SJ backed out when a player fell, not sure if it was actually Eklund because why would SJ and BUF get into deep conversations about that pick when BUF was 100% going after Eklund
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      13 oct. 2021 à 15 h 24
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      Quoting: gary_bettman
      I think he meant the Sabres moving from 14 to 4. There was SJ/Devils talk but it wasn't as prominent.


      I think it was a couple of rumors that got mashed together (1) Devils were listening on #4 pick, (2) Sharks were considering moving Meier and (3) Devils / Sharks were talking trade. All three different scoops from different sources. People were just guessing that SJS were using Meier to jump to #4.

      (The Devils Sharks blockbuster turned out to be Merkley/Jaros).
      13 oct. 2021 à 16 h 33
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      I think it was a couple of rumors that got mashed together (1) Devils were listening on #4 pick, (2) Sharks were considering moving Meier and (3) Devils / Sharks were talking trade. All three different scoops from different sources. People were just guessing that SJS were using Meier to jump to #4.

      (The Devils Sharks blockbuster turned out to be Merkley/Jaros).


      I have a hard time imagining the Devils trading #4 since Hughes was going to be available.
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      Quoting: goodfella
      I have a hard time imagining the Devils trading #4 since Hughes was going to be available.


      You and me both
      I am guess it was just talk...probably a contingency plan if Hughes went in top-3
      14 oct. 2021 à 9 h 21
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      Quoting: goodfella
      Is this confirmed?
      Quoting: gary_bettman
      Jeff Marek/TSN said it was definitely in the works. Don't know why SJ backed out or if Sabres backed out. Sabres really wanted Eklund.
      Quoting: Zuki9797
      Sam Reinhart + Isak Rosen for William Eklund ...
      Quoting: NHLfan10506
      They were talking to Devils about moving up to #4 as well
      Quoting: gary_bettman
      Power and Eklund on the same team....
      Quoting: glarson17
      I don’t think they were, I thought there was speculation later in the draft with the devils.
      Quoting: MJC13
      The Sharks backed out when Eklund fell to them. If Eklund was already gone the trade probably would've happened.
      Quoting: Sabres_Insider
      It was on the sabres youtube as well. BUF was going to trade Reinhart+14 for 7OA, SJ backed out when a player fell, not sure if it was actually Eklund because why would SJ and BUF get into deep conversations about that pick when BUF was 100% going after Eklund
      Levi, Hagg and second have marginal value, so Ristolainen and Reinhart for Eklund?
      If Eklund is that good Buffalo should have taken him instead of Power.
      Buffalo needs a center more than a LHD.
      This is a perfect example of how stupid the Sabres are, they drafted a LHD and are now using a RW's at Center Thompson and Quinn.
      Alternatively they could have traded down for the fifth OA, .
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      14 oct. 2021 à 10 h 0
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      Quoting: gretzkyghosts
      Levi, Hagg and second have marginal value, so Ristolainen and Reinhart for Eklund?
      If Eklund is that good Buffalo should have taken him instead of Power.
      Buffalo needs a center more than a LHD.
      This is a perfect example of how stupid the Sabres are, they drafted a LHD and are now using a RW's at Center Thompson and Quinn.
      Alternatively they could have traded down for the fifth OA, .


      I had Eklund #2 behind Power for draft

      1. Power

      2. Eklund
      3. Hughes
      4. Clarke

      It could have been in both Seattle and Buffalo's best interest to have swapped picks, but Seattle didn't have many assets to deal.

      (also, they have talked about Dahlin getting shifts at forward, so maybe LD is a litter thinner then)
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      14 oct. 2021 à 10 h 49
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      Quoting: gretzkyghosts
      Levi, Hagg and second have marginal value, so Ristolainen and Reinhart for Eklund?
      If Eklund is that good Buffalo should have taken him instead of Power.
      Buffalo needs a center more than a LHD.
      This is a perfect example of how stupid the Sabres are, they drafted a LHD and are now using a RW's at Center Thompson and Quinn.
      Alternatively they could have traded down for the fifth OA, .


      I think it comes down to the philosophy of taking who you feel is the best player versus needs.
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      14 oct. 2021 à 11 h 25
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      Quoting: NHLfan10506
      I had Eklund #2 behind Power for draft

      1. Power

      2. Eklund
      3. Hughes
      4. Clarke

      It could have been in both Seattle and Buffalo's best interest to have swapped picks, but Seattle didn't have many assets to deal.

      (also, they have talked about Dahlin getting shifts at forward, so maybe LD is a litter thinner then)


      Wait, they're going to pull a Brent Burns on Rasmus Dahlin? It worked for Burnsie to improve his offensive game but he had a prime Joe Thornton to play with. Sabres don't have anything close to a prime Thornton with Eichel likely never playing a game for Buffalo again. Seems a terrible idea.
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      Quoting: NHLfan10506
      I had Eklund #2 behind Power for draft... All the more reason that Buffalo should have picked Eklund or traded down!
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      I think it comes down to the philosophy of taking who you feel is the best player versus needs. I know you are correct, my biggest issue is the Sabres waste their picks. 2014 Reinhart over Draisaitl and 2016 Nylander over Sergachev. 2020 Quinn over Rossi, now so many people think Eklund will be special.
      Quoting: gary_bettman
      Wait, they're going to pull a Brent Burns on Rasmus Dahlin? It worked for Burnsie to improve his offensive game but he had a prime Joe Thornton to play with. Sabres don't have anything close to a prime Thornton with Eichel likely never playing a game for Buffalo again. Seems a terrible idea. I agree, Dahlin is LHD, often it takes years for a D-man to develop, Burns was 26 before he exceeded 40 pts for the second time, Chara was 27 before he scored 40 pts. in a season. IMO it would be a horrible error to move him to LW when the current LHD is Butcher, Hagg and Bryson.
      Thank you all for your constructive comments.
      Too often when I make a post, I get push back even when I agree with the comment, by starting I agree!
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      14 oct. 2021 à 12 h 5
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      Thank you all for your constructive comments.
      Too often when I make a post, I get push back even when I agree with the comment, by starting I agree!


      There is no lack of unrest in the community here.
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      Quoting: gretzkyghosts
      Levi, Hagg and second have marginal value, so Ristolainen and Reinhart for Eklund?
      If Eklund is that good Buffalo should have taken him instead of Power.
      Buffalo needs a center more than a LHD.
      This is a perfect example of how stupid the Sabres are, they drafted a LHD and are now using a RW's at Center Thompson and Quinn.
      Alternatively they could have traded down for the fifth OA, .


      Never ever seen a team take a a player of need over skill at 1OA
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      Quoting: Sabres_Insider
      Never ever seen a team take a a player of need over skill at 1OA


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