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Créé par: LGuy54
Date de création initiale: 13 oct. 2021
Publié: 13 oct. 2021
Équipe: 2021-22 Maple Leafs de Toronto
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  1. Hagelin, Carl
WSH
    What would it cost to acquire him??
    Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
    • Phil Kessel: 1 200 000 $ (15%)
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    TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
    2381 500 000 $84 138 116 $0 $400 000 $-2 638 116 $
    Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
    TOR
    Ritchie, Nick
    2 500 000 $
    AG
    UFA - 2
    TOR
    Matthews, Auston
    11 640 250 $
    C
    UFA - 3
    TOR
    Marner, Mitchell
    10 903 000 $
    AD
    UFA - 4
    TOR
    Kerfoot, Alexander
    3 500 000 $
    C, AG
    UFA - 2
    TOR
    Tavares, John
    11 000 000 $
    C
    NMC
    UFA - 4
    TOR
    Nylander, William
    6 962 366 $
    AD, AG
    UFA - 3
    TOR
    Bunting, Michael
    950 000 $
    AG
    UFA - 2
    TOR
    Kämpf, David
    1 500 000 $
    C, AD
    UFA - 2
    TOR
    Kase, Ondrej
    1 250 000 $
    AD
    RFA - 1
    TOR
    Engvall, Pierre
    1 250 000 $
    AG, C
    RFA - 1
    TOR
    Amadio, Michael
    750 000 $
    C, AD
    RFA - 1
    TOR
    Spezza, Jason
    750 000 $
    C, AD
    UFA - 1
    WSH
    Hagelin, Carl
    2 750 000 $
    AG
    UFA - 2
    Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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    Rielly, Morgan
    5 000 000 $
    DG
    NMC
    UFA - 1
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    Brodie, TJ
    5 000 000 $
    DD
    NTC
    UFA - 3
    TOR
    Campbell, Jack
    1 650 000 $
    G
    UFA - 1
    TOR
    Muzzin, Jake
    5 625 000 $
    DG
    NTC
    UFA - 3
    TOR
    Holl, Justin
    2 000 000 $
    DD
    NTC
    UFA - 2
    TOR
    Mrázek, Petr
    3 800 000 $
    G
    NTC
    UFA - 3
    TOR
    Sandin, Rasmus
    894 167 $
    DG
    RFA - 1
    TOR
    Liljegren, Timothy
    863 333 $
    DD
    RFA - 1
    TOR
    Dermott, Travis
    1 500 000 $
    DG/DD
    RFA - 2
    Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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    Simmonds, Wayne
    900 000 $
    AD, AG
    NTC
    UFA - 2
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    Mikheyev, Ilya
    1 645 000 $
    AG, AD
    UFA - 1

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    13 oct. 2021 à 12 h 23
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    the caps would need to pay you
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    13 oct. 2021 à 12 h 25
    #2
    Caps fan idk why
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    realistically? i would pay you a 3rd lol. thats with you not giving any cap back to us. if you needed to send cap back to us i imagine it would be like Engvall, Dermott ...basically a player you dont have a use for and Caps still give you a late pick
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    13 oct. 2021 à 12 h 26
    #3
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    Quoting: Capitalfail67
    realistically? i would pay you a 3rd lol. thats with you not giving any cap back to us. if you needed to send cap back to us i imagine it would be like Engvall, Dermott ...basically a player you dont have a use for and Caps still give you a late pick


    Hagelin and a pick for Dermott and Engvall??
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    13 oct. 2021 à 12 h 29
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    It would take a fair amount considering you'd probably want retention on that contract
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    13 oct. 2021 à 12 h 30
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    Yeah I guess it depends on the time of trade and the trading partner. In the offseason, Caps would need to throw in a draft pick for teams to take on salary. At this years trade deadline, you would think same thing.

    At this point right now, I don't think the Caps trade him because a) they would require receiving a player back with a low salary cap / 4th line (or depth) player (like a Raffl last year) and b) they would still need to send a draft pick over
    13 oct. 2021 à 12 h 32
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    We have no need for him at 2.75
    13 oct. 2021 à 12 h 32
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    Caps fan idk why
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    Quoting: LGuy54
    Hagelin and a pick for Dermott and Engvall??


    seems fair.. Capitals might need Dermott bc our LSD has a lot of uncertainty. i think theyll be fine but cant hurt to have insurance
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    13 oct. 2021 à 12 h 33
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    Quoting: All_Knowing
    Yeah I guess it depends on the time of trade and the trading partner. In the offseason, Caps would need to throw in a draft pick for teams to take on salary. At this years trade deadline, you would think same thing.

    At this point right now, I don't think the Caps trade him because a) they would require receiving a player back with a low salary cap / 4th line (or depth) player (like a Raffl last year) and b) they would still need to send a draft pick over


    Caps fans might say "swap him in with Axel". Remember, this team is trying to contend. The 4th line was the best, most consistent line the Caps had last year. They were fast, good possession, and very solid defensively. I assume right now, the Caps want to keep that trio together to see if they will continue to contend or start to lose some competitiveness.
    13 oct. 2021 à 12 h 35
    #9
    In Pridham we trust
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    Leafs can't afford a $2.75M 33 yo 4th liner with term.
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    13 oct. 2021 à 13 h 51
    #10
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    Quoting: LGuy54
    Hagelin and a pick for Dermott and Engvall??


    Makes no sense to trade away an NHL Dman and get none in return. More fascination with other teams bottom enders. Engvall is no worse/better than Hagelin.
    13 oct. 2021 à 15 h 6
    #11
    Who adds what?
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    Quoting: palhal
    Makes no sense to trade away an NHL Dman and get none in return. More fascination with other teams bottom enders. Engvall is no worse/better than Hagelin.


    A: The Marlies still have Dahlstrom and Leivo, plus prospects, behind six solid defensemen in Toronto. WSH's veteran LHD depth chart is Orlov, Irwin, Kempny. Dermott could be valuable to them right now, but if Fehervary shows he can play a top four role, or Kempny gets back to the top of his game, that changes.

    B: Engvall and Hagelin each played 4th line/PK last year, but Hagelin played a tougher role and did better with it. Add in that Hagelin has five 30 point seasons and their value is not equivalent. The age difference is all that makes this fair. I'm fine with WSH keeping Hagelin, though.

    C: If Toronto gets completely healthy and has to trade Mikheyev for someone cheaper, they can add a defenseman in that deal. Maybe not a Norris candidate like Travis Dermott, but someone who plays defense in the NHL, and is cheap.
    13 oct. 2021 à 16 h 26
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    Quoting: Eli
    Maybe not a Norris candidate like Travis Dermott



    WHAT?? DID YOU CALL DERMOTT A NORRIS CANDITADE 🤣🤣, HE IS BARELY NHL CALIBRE, FORGET THE NORRIS LMFAO
    Eli a aimé ceci.
    13 oct. 2021 à 16 h 57
    #13
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    Quoting: Eli
    A: The Marlies still have Dahlstrom and Leivo, plus prospects, behind six solid defensemen in Toronto. WSH's veteran LHD depth chart is Orlov, Irwin, Kempny. Dermott could be valuable to them right now, but if Fehervary shows he can play a top four role, or Kempny gets back to the top of his game, that changes
    B: Engvall and Hagelin each played 4th line/PK last year, but Hagelin played a tougher role and did better with it. Add in that Hagelin has five 30 point seasons and their value is not equivalent. The age difference is all that makes this fair. I'm fine with WSH keeping Hagelin, though.

    C: If Toronto gets completely healthy and has to trade Mikheyev for someone cheaper, they can add a defenseman in that deal. Maybe not a Norris candidate like Travis Dermott, but someone who plays defense in the NHL, and is cheap.


    Your underestimated Dermot. He's an NHL Dman Leafs Dmen prospects with the Marlies...aren't NHL prospects. Yes the Leafs have two aging veterans with Marlies but if they were so good, they could be signed elsewhere.
    Sorry, Hagelin is no where near worth his contract...when compared to Engvall, Mikheyev and Dermot
     
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