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Tkachuk for tarasenko

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Équipe: 2021-22 Sénateurs d'Ottawa
Date de création initiale: 8 oct. 2021
Publié: 8 oct. 2021
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  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (NYI)
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  1. Tarasenko, Vladimir (3 750 000 $ retained)
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8 oct. 2021 à 16 h 36
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major L for Ottawa in this deal.
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8 oct. 2021 à 16 h 39
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Isles decline
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8 oct. 2021 à 16 h 41
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That trade sequence is a disaster for Ottawa.

Eeek!
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8 oct. 2021 à 16 h 48
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Awful deal for the Sens. Brady will sign soon enough, this is nothing new with Tkachuks
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8 oct. 2021 à 16 h 50
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Awful deal for the Sens. Brady will sign soon enough, this is nothing new with Tkachuks


Getting kyrou,bellows and a first is the best you’re gonna do in a trade scenario
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8 oct. 2021 à 16 h 53
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Getting kyrou,bellows and a first is the best you’re gonna do in a trade scenario


That's purely your opinion which I disagree with
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8 oct. 2021 à 17 h 7
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This is an unmitigated disaster for Ottawa.
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8 oct. 2021 à 17 h 8
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Interesting how Ottawa gets a poor return on the st Louis trade and gets way too much of a return on the nyi trade.
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8 oct. 2021 à 17 h 8
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Also it fascinates me how much people love Brady calling this an unmitigated disaster.
8 oct. 2021 à 17 h 10
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I see people are still sleeping on Kyrou. He had the most 5v5 points out of anyone on STL or OTT last season (in the 9th-most 5v5 minutes of any of the fwds). Kyrou, Bellows, 1st for Tkachuk, if he doesn't want to sign a deal with OTT, isn't as terrible as it looks on the surface IMO.
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8 oct. 2021 à 17 h 15
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
That's purely your opinion which I disagree with


You almost never back up your very strong opinions, it's almost always just posturing and these chat boxes don't have a character limit whatsoever

Go wild 😉

Give us some reasoning behind your staunchness
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8 oct. 2021 à 17 h 23
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Trading Brady Tkachuk, their future captain, for Kyrou+Bellows+Clutterbuck+1st with the additional cost of $7,5M halved in two years seems pretty bad return in my opinion.

I'd rather just keep Brady and negotiate a favorable contract for all participants.
8 oct. 2021 à 17 h 24
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The replies here are pathetic

Like seriously folks

😑

Kyrou is only one year older than Brady and was a point away from equaling his point total: how on earth are they not at least roughly similar assets??

His possession numbers are pretty similar too

Ottawa also gets Bellows *and* a late 1st

Y'all owe OP an apology
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8 oct. 2021 à 17 h 56
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I see people are still sleeping on Kyrou. He had the most 5v5 points out of anyone on STL or OTT last season (in the 9th-most 5v5 minutes of any of the fwds). Kyrou, Bellows, 1st for Tkachuk, if he doesn't want to sign a deal with OTT, isn't as terrible as it looks on the surface IMO.


Kyrou is good but not brady good. Senko adds pretty much nothing to this deal not to mention NYI declines. We arent interested in tarasenko.
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8 oct. 2021 à 21 h 54
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Quoting: Islesforthecup
Kyrou is good but not brady good. Senko adds pretty much nothing to this deal not to mention NYI declines. We arent interested in tarasenko.


Brady is not THAT good either. His hype is way ahead of his game
9 oct. 2021 à 2 h 3
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Brady is not THAT good either. His hype is way ahead of his game


Thats 100% true but
1. He has a lot of potential, significantly more so than kyrou, and
2. He is a better player than kyrou playing on a much worse team.

While brady is overhyped this is still a pretty bad deal for OTT.
9 oct. 2021 à 9 h 56
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Awful deal for the Sens. Brady will sign soon enough, this is nothing new with Tkachuks


Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
That's purely your opinion which I disagree with


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You almost never back up your very strong opinions, it's almost always just posturing and these chat boxes don't have a character limit whatsoever

Go wild 😉

Give us some reasoning behind your staunchness


Quoting: Radu47
The replies here are pathetic

Like seriously folks

😑

Kyrou is only one year older than Brady and was a point away from equaling his point total: how on earth are they not at least roughly similar assets??

His possession numbers are pretty similar too

Ottawa also gets Bellows *and* a late 1st

Y'all owe OP an apology


Kyrou had 12 points in his first 10 games on an unsustainable 20% shooting percentage. He had 23 points in his final 45 games on a still good 12.5% shooting percentage. He’s a mid 40’s winger, and the hype over this guy is hilarious.

Tarasenko is an old and broken down winger with a bad contract.

This trade is ridiculous
9 oct. 2021 à 10 h 5
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Quoting: BCAPP
Brady is not THAT good either. His hype is way ahead of his game


Brady is taking a beating in the media over whether he’s worth $7MM, $8MM, or $8.5MM, did Kyrou take the same beating when he signed for $2.8MM in Aug?

This is a pathetic trade offer
9 oct. 2021 à 14 h 6
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Brady is taking a beating in the media over whether he’s worth $7MM, $8MM, or $8.5MM, did Kyrou take the same beating when he signed for $2.8MM in Aug?

This is a pathetic trade offer


Youre making my point. Brady should be taking a beating as his request is insane.
9 oct. 2021 à 14 h 6
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Brady is taking a beating in the media over whether he’s worth $7MM, $8MM, or $8.5MM, did Kyrou take the same beating when he signed for $2.8MM in Aug?

This is a pathetic trade offer


To clarify he is worse way less.
9 oct. 2021 à 16 h 54
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To clarify he is worse way less.


They guy who is top 10 i sbots every year and top 10 i hits every year but has no team mates to actually help get it into the back of the net is worth way less?
9 oct. 2021 à 17 h 13
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They guy who is top 10 i sbots every year and top 10 i hits every year but has no team mates to actually help get it into the back of the net is worth way less?


Top 10 in shots is nice but I'd rather see top 10 in goals...

And top 10 in hits is nice and all but hits don't win games. Goals do. Hits help, but so many take it way out of perspective.

So yes I think it's ludicrous that a 50 point winger is turning down being the 7th highest paid left winger in the league. That's insane.
9 oct. 2021 à 17 h 15
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Top 10 in shots is nice but I'd rather see top 10 in goals...

And top 10 in hits is nice and all but hits don't win games. Goals do. Hits help, but so many take it way out of perspective.

So yes I think it's ludicrous that a 50 point winger is turning down being the 7th highest paid left winger in the league. That's insane.


You arent in the office nor have seen any of the offers so you have no idea what has been turned down or not
9 oct. 2021 à 17 h 29
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
You arent in the office nor have seen any of the offers so you have no idea what has been turned down or not


Its been fairly widely reported that's he's turned down 8*8. I am quite happy however to add the addendum that if the reported claims are false I take back my comments.
9 oct. 2021 à 17 h 31
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Its been fairly widely reported that's he's turned down 8*8. I am quite happy however to add the addendum that if the reported claims are false I take back my comments.


Its also been reported that clauses are an issue. My guess is as good as yours but I assume the 8x8 was just that, no clauses at all
 
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