Good god, these are both horrible

If any of the big guys have to go it will be Nylander, Matthews is the best goal scorer in the game IMO and should never be traded. And Marner and Tavares have are great players but their contracts are tough ones to for teams to take on so their wouldn’t be much of a market for them. Nylander is the only one that makes sense.

That makes no sense for the Panthers. This just destroys our defense and depth and makes us the new Oilers.

That’s ridiculous for the Avs to do, such an easy no

Just an awful trade for the avs

Over rate marner much?

What the hell are you on about? That is such a steal for marner lol. Plus sandin is in there. The guy who made this trade is an idiot but youre equally an idiot

Yikes. Leafs Nation would implode.

Dubie isn't trading any of his core 4 guys. He's pretty much said so.

"Dubie" may not be in Toronto for much longer

He'll be looking for work in May.

Yeah so I don't see any of the core guys being traded while he is there but if they have another 1st round exit I think they will hire new staff and might consider changing up part of the core.

The team doesn't improve by trading Nylander right now. You simply can't make a significant improvement using the cap relief his loss provides.
You're right on Matthews as well. You simply don't trade him.
That leaves Marner and Tavares. Either player's cap relief could be used for a cheaper replacement and bolstering multiple positions.
Tavares makes the most sense because you do not NEED an $11M 2C. Nice to have, but not a necessity. Unfortunately he also has a NMC.
That leaves Marner, who also shouldn't be traded, but it's the only way to afford improvements elsewhere.

Matthews doesn't really need an $11M winger and Nylander doesn't need an $11M center.

$11M is enough for a decent replacement for either player with enough left over for a solid defenseman, and either player could bring in a top 6 ELC in trade.
$5/6M on a replacement who will put up career numbers playing with Matthews anyway, $4/5M on a top 4D or upgrade on the back end, and an ELC to play another top 6 position.

Please, the real value in that whole trade is Byram, a 20 yr old top pairing dman on an elc the next 2 seasons and team control the next 6. Tell me what had Marner and his $10+M contract done in the playoffs? Why would COL trade for a $10M player when they have to sign MacKinnon in a year?

Panthers and Avs both decline.

The Panthers already have Barkov as 1C (and he's a pretty damn good one), and I'd think they'd want to keep their #1 D.

Avs don't need Marner, they've got an amazing first line already and Kadri is a good 2C when he's not suspended.

Fair enough, you make some good points and in a perfect world I would probably trade Marner before Nylander too. I was more just saying if any of these guys get traded I see it being Nylander, not sure how big the market is for an 11m winger. I don't think any of them will be traded, nor do I want them to be.