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Price of Miller

Créé par: RIP_RICK_RYPIEN
Date de création initiale: 7 oct. 2021
Publié: 7 oct. 2021
Équipe: 2021-22 Canucks de Vancouver
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  1. Amirov, Rodion
  2. Liljegren, Timothy
  3. 2023 1e round pick (TOR)
  4. 2024 4e round pick (TOR)
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    Rachats de contrats
    • Braden Holtby: 500 000 $
    • Jake Virtanen: 50 000 $
    Frais appliqués
    • Roberto Luongo: 3 035 212 $
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    2023
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    TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
    2081 500 000 $75 573 992 $648 780 $3 800 000 $5 926 008 $
    Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
    VAN
    Höglander, Nils
    891 667 $
    AG, AD
    RFA - 2
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    Pettersson, Elias
    7 350 000 $
    C
    RFA - 3
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    Boeser, Brock
    5 875 000 $
    AD
    RFA - 1
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    Miller, J.T.
    5 250 000 $
    AG, C
    UFA - 2
    VAN
    Horvat, Bo
    5 500 000 $
    C
    UFA - 2
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    Garland, Conor
    4 950 000 $
    AG, AD
    UFA - 5
    VAN
    Pearson, Tanner
    3 250 000 $
    AG
    NTC
    UFA - 3
    VAN
    Dickinson, Jason
    2 650 000 $
    C, AG
    UFA - 3
    VAN
    Podkolzin, Vasily
    925 000 $
    AD
    RFA - 3
    TOR
    Amirov, Rodion
    925 000 $
    AG
    RFA - 3
    VAN
    Sutter, Brandon
    1 125 000 $
    AD, C
    UFA - 1
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    Petan, Nicolas
    750 000 $
    C, AG, AD
    UFA - 1
    Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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    Hughes, Quinn
    7 850 000 $
    DG
    UFA - 6
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    Myers, Tyler
    6 000 000 $
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    UFA - 3
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    Demko, Thatcher
    5 000 000 $
    G
    UFA - 5
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    Ekman-Larsson, Oliver
    7 260 000 $
    DG
    NMC
    UFA - 6
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    Poolman, Tucker
    2 500 000 $
    DD
    UFA - 4
    VAN
    Halák, Jaroslav
    1 500 000 $
    G
    NMC
    UFA - 1
    VAN
    Rathbone, Jack
    925 000 $
    DG
    RFA - 1
    TOR
    Liljegren, Timothy
    863 333 $
    DD
    RFA - 1
    Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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    Hamonic, Travis
    3 000 000 $
    DD
    NTC
    UFA - 2
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    Ferland, Micheal
    3 500 000 $
    AG, AD
    NTC
    UFA - 2
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    Motte, Tyler
    1 225 000 $
    AG, AD
    UFA - 1
    Équipe de réserve
    VAN
    Schenn, Luke
    850 000 $ (0 $)
    DD
    UFA - 2
    VAN
    Juolevi, Olli
    750 000 $ (0 $)
    DG
    RFA - 1
    VAN
    Hunt, Brad
    800 000 $ (0 $)
    DG
    UFA - 1
    VAN
    Highmore, Matthew
    725 000 $ (0 $)
    AG, AD
    RFA - 1
    VAN
    Bailey, Justin
    750 000 $ (0 $)
    AD
    UFA - 1

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    7 oct. à 6 h 48
    #1
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    Sounds about right: an A prospect, a B prospect who needs a chance elsewhere, a 1st and a bit more (4th). Only problem is Leafs cant afford that cap hit.

    Leafs might get another team to eat half his salary, but that'll cost an additional 2nd or more, (and they still cant afford).
    7 oct. à 8 h 14
    #2
    Rejoint: janv. 2017
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    Quoting: Hammerwise
    Sounds about right: an A prospect, a B prospect who needs a chance elsewhere, a 1st and a bit more (4th). Only problem is Leafs cant afford that cap hit.

    Leafs might get another team to eat half his salary, but that'll cost an additional 2nd or more, (and they still cant afford).


    I personally don't see Miller netting this much value considering when they traded for him it was for a mid first (20th OA) and a 3rd. I don't see how his value skyrocketed to include 2 solid prospects
    Hammerwise a aimé ceci.
    7 oct. à 8 h 38
    #3
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    Quoting: jmac490
    I personally don't see Miller netting this much value considering when they traded for him it was for a mid first (20th OA) and a 3rd. I don't see how his value skyrocketed to include 2 solid prospects


    He went from 40 pts, 55 pts, 47 pts with TB/NYR, to 72 pts and then 46 pts in 53 games, his value (at age 28) has increased and at 5.25 for 2 more years probably worth that package.

    For example Drouin of TB has a differwent value than Drouin of MTL.

    While I think Amirov COULD BE a top 20-30 forward prospect, Liljegren is finishing his ELC without much more than a cup of coffee in the NHL, the TOR 1st and 4th should be late round (and are not in 2022).
    7 oct. à 8 h 50
    #4
    Rejoint: janv. 2020
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    So three 1sts for 2 years of Miller?
    Janasazi a aimé ceci.
    7 oct. à 9 h 15
    #5
    Rejoint: août 2021
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    Why would the Leafs want JT Miller or fit his cap hit in their system?
    palhal a aimé ceci.
    7 oct. à 9 h 51
    #6
    LongtimeLeafsufferer
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    Doesn't fit in the Leafs cap at all. Like Miller, but Leafs shouldn't be traded for their best or second best prospect Amirov, Liljegren looks NHL ready, and first for two years of Miller.
    7 oct. à 10 h 49
    #7
    Rejoint: janv. 2017
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    Quoting: Hammerwise
    He went from 40 pts, 55 pts, 47 pts with TB/NYR, to 72 pts and then 46 pts in 53 games, his value (at age 28) has increased and at 5.25 for 2 more years probably worth that package.

    For example Drouin of TB has a differwent value than Drouin of MTL.

    While I think Amirov COULD BE a top 20-30 forward prospect, Liljegren is finishing his ELC without much more than a cup of coffee in the NHL, the TOR 1st and 4th should be late round (and are not in 2022).


    I'm not discounting the success of Miller. It's just hard for Toronto since they're paying their Top 3-4 Forwards more money than they'll know what to do with (I've accepted that Willy is probably worth it).
    They will need the cheap cost of Lilly/Amirov/Robertson to remain competitive considering the flat cap.
    If we were to get another forward, they would need to be cheap, likely retained, and we would need to move 1-2 players back to make the cap worth.

    The Millet contract is nice since it roughly brings him to the end of his prime (30-33 for forwards)
    7 oct. à 13 h 20
    #8
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    Quoting: jmac490
    I'm not discounting the success of Miller. It's just hard for Toronto since they're paying their Top 3-4 Forwards more money than they'll know what to do with (I've accepted that Willy is probably worth it).
    They will need the cheap cost of Lilly/Amirov/Robertson to remain competitive considering the flat cap.
    If we were to get another forward, they would need to be cheap, likely retained, and we would need to move 1-2 players back to make the cap worth.

    The Millet contract is nice since it roughly brings him to the end of his prime (30-33 for forwards)


    Quoting: palhal
    Doesn't fit in the Leafs cap at all. Like Miller, but Leafs shouldn't be traded for their best or second best prospect Amirov, Liljegren looks NHL ready, and first for two years of Miller.


    Quoting: Janasazi
    Why would the Leafs want JT Miller or fit his cap hit in their system?


    Quoting: Leafs_and_Sens_Fan
    So three 1sts for 2 years of Miller?


    Quoting: jmac490
    I personally don't see Miller netting this much value considering when they traded for him it was for a mid first (20th OA) and a 3rd. I don't see how his value skyrocketed to include 2 solid prospects


    Quoting: Hammerwise
    Sounds about right: an A prospect, a B prospect who needs a chance elsewhere, a 1st and a bit more (4th). Only problem is Leafs cant afford that cap hit.

    Leafs might get another team to eat half his salary, but that'll cost an additional 2nd or more, (and they still cant afford).


    Canucks retain 2 mill for an additional 3rd
    7 oct. à 13 h 20
    #9
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    Quoting: Leafs_and_Sens_Fan
    So three 1sts for 2 years of Miller?


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