That would be a bad trade for the Flyers. Frost still has the potential to be a 1st line forward and he’s pretty solid defensively. Kaut is more of a middle 6 winger

Flyers decline. Frosts upside is plenty higher than kauts while his floor is only slightly lower.

gonna be 23 soon. his upside is gone bruh

I laugh all the time when a 25 year old is in a trade and people scream "tHe uPsIde" and the guy has played over 100 games and only has 3 points. It's comical. Not saying it totally fits here but the guy above said "Frost has 1st line potential" Like, are we still in 2019???

I think you hit on the reason the Avs wouldn’t do it, an extra year of waiver exempt, I don’t think everybody realizes how valuable that is, because you know injuries are going to happen.

Yeah, the organization made a big deal of having Kaut's ELC slide an extra year in order to effectively extend his ELC. Having that 2nd year left is a big deal because it buys a lot of extra time. Kaut could be kept in the minors this entire season to marinate a bit longer and still have another year left of waiver exemption. That's valuable in a cap league.

Frost probably does still have more upside than Kaut though. After missing a year of hockey he's missed some key development time though, and the clock is ticking on him this season before being waiver fodder in a year.

Overall I think it's probably a reasonably fair deal, though more risk is on Colorado's side given the extra year and Frost's injury history. His skating might make him a more natural fit in Bednar's system than Kaut though, so in that sense it would make sense. Avs also lack a playmaker for the middle 6 so there would certainly be an opportunity there for him.

I don't mind this, but I feel that Frost could probably get more value back from somewhere else

Hmm i guess you must have missed what happened this year with a rookie phenom who was... 25yo. Im not saying frost will become anything but hes only 22yo. Saying he has no upside is ignorant.

He was born May 14th, reaching a bit there with “soon”. Let alone that fact players can still develop at 23+.

Oh he can still develop... into a bottom six player

Mantha, Bertuzzi, Nyquist, and Tatar are some recent Detroit players that become NHL regulars around that same time. What specifically makes him only a bottom six upside?