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Créé par: Kyle_Davidson
Équipe: 2021-22 Blackhawks de Chicago
Date de création initiale: 6 oct. 2021
Publié: 6 oct. 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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  1. Connolly, Brett
  2. White, Colin
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (TBL)
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6 oct. 2021 à 11 h 39
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Both these deals aggressively favor the hawks

Just to elaborate on that, It probably costs a 2nd to dump connely, meaning we would be getting kessel essentially for free in this situation. I see the incentive for Az to move Kessel, but they could do better than this. Without Connely it is probably good, however we couldn't make the money work in that situation.
Strome isn't enough to get Brandstrom on his own imo, and no way stillman makes up that difference + Collin White. Stillman doesn't really do much for Ottowa. They already have guys like Nick Holden and Victor Mete to fill those 6th/7th D man role. While Stillman's upside is higher than those guys, Brandstroms upside is higher than everyone in that deal
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6 oct. 2021 à 11 h 46
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Quoting: Wadejos123
Both these deals aggressively favor the hawks

Just to elaborate on that, It probably costs a 2nd to dump connely, meaning we would be getting kessel essentially for free in this situation. I see the incentive for Az to move Kessel, but they could do better than this. Without Connely it is probably good, however we couldn't make the money work in that situation.
Strome isn't enough to get Brandstrom on his own imo, and no way stillman makes up that difference + Collin White. Stillman doesn't really do much for Ottowa. They already have guys like Nick Holden and Victor Mete to fill those 6th/7th D man role. While Stillman's upside is higher than those guys, Brandstroms upside is higher than everyone in that deal


I saw some sens fans on Twitter saying they think the sens should buy out whites contract this off-season because he just isn’t living up to it. Talking purely from his point totals, I agree that he hasn’t lived up to his contract either. I think the Sens would be interested in Stillman and Strome, adding some depth where they need it badly. along with moving out Whites contract. The other guy in the deal is in a similar situation where he seems to have stalled in his development, and for both players I think a change of scenery could help them out. As for the Arizona trade, the second is included in that deal to dump Connolly. That would make the trade white for Kessel 1 for 1, and as long as white is a player they believe in I don’t see why they can’t make that deal.
6 oct. 2021 à 12 h 28
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I saw some sens fans on Twitter saying they think the sens should buy out whites contract this off-season because he just isn’t living up to it. Talking purely from his point totals, I agree that he hasn’t lived up to his contract either. I think the Sens would be interested in Stillman and Strome, adding some depth where they need it badly. along with moving out Whites contract. The other guy in the deal is in a similar situation where he seems to have stalled in his development, and for both players I think a change of scenery could help them out. As for the Arizona trade, the second is included in that deal to dump Connolly. That would make the trade white for Kessel 1 for 1, and as long as white is a player they believe in I don’t see why they can’t make that deal.


I just don't get the logic in saying white has little to no value when we aquire him from the sens, but then saying he has value when we trade him to AZ.
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I just don't get the logic in saying white has little to no value when we aquire him from the sens, but then saying he has value when we trade him to AZ.


Think in terms of how much value Kessel has to Arizona. He’s 34, a one year rental with a ~7 mil contract. If they believe in white, they get a 24 year old with term.
6 oct. 2021 à 16 h 9
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I don't think Ottawa would be really interested in Dylan Strome

Of course, it would depend on the price paid, but they'd probably want to do something better with Brannstrom.

Stillman also doesn't accomplish anything for Ottawa

The top priority and maybe the only one for Ottawa right now should be getting a RD for Thomas Chabot. I mean, Zub could maybe do the job but he would also be need on the 2nd pairing so there's a big hole on RD IMO.

For the rest of the lineup, kinda need to see what happens with Tkachuk and start the season first.

Quoting: Stan_Bowman
I saw some sens fans on Twitter saying they think the sens should buy out whites contract this off-season because he just isn’t living up to it. Talking purely from his point totals, I agree that he hasn’t lived up to his contract either. I think the Sens would be interested in Stillman and Strome, adding some depth where they need it badly. along with moving out Whites contract. The other guy in the deal is in a similar situation where he seems to have stalled in his development, and for both players I think a change of scenery could help them out. As for the Arizona trade, the second is included in that deal to dump Connolly. That would make the trade white for Kessel 1 for 1, and as long as white is a player they believe in I don’t see why they can’t make that deal.


A lot of people don't use their brain a lot in life (case in point : covid), twitter doesn't look like a Nobel Conference

70% of Sens fans think White is overpaid by approximatively 1.25 per season (based on polls). Is it anywhere close to being crippling for a team that isn't even at the cap floor a few days before the season starts? lol

If Ottawa was struggling to stay under the cap like many other NHL teams, then buying him out would be a no brainer... but it's not the case and it won't be until players like Stutzle, Sanderson, Pinto, etc start costing a lot of money. But White's contract expires in 3 years after this season... Worst case scenario, buy him out for the last year or even the last 2 years of the contract

In the meantime, solid 3rd liner (a bit injury prone though) who produces ~32 pts per 82 games and has good defensive/advanced stats. He is Chabot's best friend and very appreciated by the whole organization. There is absolutely nothing to gain by "getting rid" of him
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