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Créé par: RussianRangers9
Équipe: 2022-23 Rangers de New York
Date de création initiale: 1 oct. 2021
Publié: 1 oct. 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
88 000 000 $
2800 000 $
2800 000 $
2800 000 $
2800 000 $
2800 000 $
32 750 000 $
21 750 000 $
32 500 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
57 500 000 $
3800 000 $
Transactions
NYR
  1. Eichel, Jack (2 500 000 $ retained)
BUF
  1. Gauthier, Julien
  2. Georgiev, Alexandar
  3. Othmann, Brennan
  4. Schneider, Braden
  5. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (NYR)
  6. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (NYR)
Détails additionnels:
Strome
2022 TDL
Rachats de contrats
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2022
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Logo de NYR
2023
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Logo de NYR
Logo de NYR
Logo de NYR
Logo de NYR
Logo de NYR
2024
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Logo de NYR
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2381 500 000 $81 178 552 $0 $5 032 500 $321 448 $

Formation

Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Rangers de New York
11 642 857 $11 642 857 $
AG
NMC
UFA - 4
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
7 500 000 $7 500 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 4
Logo de Rangers de New York
2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
AD
RFA - 2
Logo de Rangers de New York
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 850 000 $$3M)
AG, AD
RFA - 1
Logo de Rangers de New York
7 500 000 $7 500 000 $
C
UFA - 8
Logo de Rangers de New York
6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
AG
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo de Rangers de New York
3 641 667 $3 641 667 $
C, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 5
Logo de Rangers de New York
2 300 000 $2 300 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Rangers de New York
1 750 000 $1 750 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 1
Logo de Rangers de New York
828 333 $828 333 $ (Bonis de performance82 500 $$82K)
AG
RFA - 3
Logo de Rangers de New York
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AG, AD
RFA - 1
Logo de Rangers de New York
762 500 $762 500 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Rangers de New York
800 000 $800 000 $
C
UFA - 2
Logo de Rangers de New York
883 750 $883 750 $
AD
RFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Rangers de New York
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
DG
RFA - 2
Logo de Rangers de New York
8 000 000 $8 000 000 $
DD
UFA - 7
Logo de Rangers de New York
5 666 667 $5 666 667 $
G
UFA - 3
Logo de Rangers de New York
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance400 000 $$400K)
DG
RFA - 1
Logo de Rangers de New York
8 000 000 $8 000 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 4
Logo de Rangers de New York
800 000 $800 000 $
G
UFA
Logo de Rangers de New York
925 000 $925 000 $
DG
RFA - 1
Logo de Rangers de New York
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
DD
RFA - 2
Logo de Rangers de New York
800 000 $800 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Rangers de New York
1 750 000 $1 750 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Rangers de New York
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 2

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1 oct. 2021 à 8 h 36
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I'm not sure the VAN panic bridge/shorter deals will re-set the market after Makar, Miro, etc. And it doesn't help your team get under cap here since you have 4mil magically on LTIR : P
1 oct. 2021 à 8 h 38
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Quoting: mvp13
I'm not sure the VAN panic bridge/shorter deals will re-set the market after Makar, Miro, etc. And it doesn't help your team get under cap here since you have 4mil magically on LTIR : P


ltir isnt actually the ltir, its meant for they are traded away
1 oct. 2021 à 8 h 45
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You're going to be light on Fox's 8 year deal. Fox has got the Norris consideration on his resume. Fox is clearly in the 9's on a 8 year deal.
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1 oct. 2021 à 8 h 46
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Adam Fox gets at least 8 x $9,000,000 as does Mika Zibanejad. And Jack Eichel at 25% is worth more then those pieces rather easily.
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1 oct. 2021 à 9 h 1
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Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58
Adam Fox gets at least 8 x $9,000,000 as does Mika Zibanejad. And Jack Eichel at 25% is worth more then those pieces rather easily.


He once showed improvement but then he went back to the same lazy Ranger trades
1 oct. 2021 à 9 h 5
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Quoting: Shibbal18
He once showed improvement but then he went back to the same lazy Ranger trades


Its funny, i thought the same thing.
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1 oct. 2021 à 9 h 11
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Quoting: Shibbal18
He once showed improvement but then he went back to the same lazy Ranger trades


Yeah those old bad habits are hard to break.
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1 oct. 2021 à 9 h 15
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ltir isnt actually the ltir, its meant for they are traded away


Man, if only CapFriendly had the option to trade players...
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1 oct. 2021 à 9 h 16
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Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58
Yeah those old bad habits are hard to break.


Quoting: sabres89
Its funny, i thought the same thing.


Quoting: Shibbal18
He once showed improvement but then he went back to the same lazy Ranger trades


its kinda fun tho. im thinking a realistic offer should be othmann, schneider, strome, and 2 1sts
1 oct. 2021 à 9 h 29
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its kinda fun tho. im thinking a realistic offer should be othmann, schneider, strome, and 2 1sts
With or without the retention?
$2,500,000 is the same salary as Asplund, Caggiula and Pysyk.
Among them they will play over 184 games.
That much retention means the Sabres will need to sign 6 or 7 players to the NHL minimum.
Very hard to compete with that many marginal players on the team.
I have seen another option, take out Strome add Trouba and the Sabres add Miller and remove the retention.
While he is over paid, Trouba could be a great mentor for Dahlin and Power for the next five years.
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1 oct. 2021 à 9 h 32
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With or without the retention?
$2,500,000 is the same salary as Asplund, Caggiula and Pysyk.
Among them they will play over 184 games.
That much retention means the Sabres will need to sign 6 or 7 players to the NHL minimum.
Very hard to compete with that many marginal players on the team.
I have seen another option, take out Strome add Trouba and the Sabres add Miller and remove the retention.
While he is over paid, Trouba could be a great mentor for Dahlin and Power for the next five years.


I've advocated for Trouba, but the problem is his NMC. I really cannot imagine anyone waiving a NMC to play in Buffalo right now

In my mind, the trade only makes sense with including one of Trouba or Kreider, but their NMCs block it. If you don't trade one or the other, the cap becomes unbearable two years from now when Lafreniere and Miller and Chytil, etc, are up.
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1 oct. 2021 à 9 h 34
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Quoting: gretzkyghosts
With or without the retention?
$2,500,000 is the same salary as Asplund, Caggiula and Pysyk.
Among them they will play over 184 games.
That much retention means the Sabres will need to sign 6 or 7 players to the NHL minimum.
Very hard to compete with that many marginal players on the team.
I have seen another option, take out Strome add Trouba and the Sabres add Miller and remove the retention.
While he is over paid, Trouba could be a great mentor for Dahlin and Power for the next five years.


buffalo isnt trying to compete by any means. dead last in league competing? They need to rebuild
1 oct. 2021 à 9 h 51
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Thanks for the feed back.

Quoting: mvp13
I've advocated for Trouba, but the problem is his NMC. I really cannot imagine anyone waiving a NMC to play in Buffalo right now
In my mind, the trade only makes sense with including one of Trouba or Kreider, but their NMCs block it. If you don't trade one or the other, the cap becomes unbearable two years from now when Lafreniere and Miller and Chytil, etc, are up. I agree completely. It is unsustainable to retain $2,500,000 for five years.
The Sabres will be fun to watch as the players will try hard and are playing for contracts, but with AHL GK their GF may increase but their GA will skyrocket.
Let's presume Buffalo is not on Trouba's 15 No Trade Team, what would the Rangers and Sabres add?
Quoting: RussianRangers9
buffalo isnt trying to compete by any means. dead last in league competing? They need to rebuild Trouba v Miller will not make a huge difference this next year. The team is really bad.
Only Thompson is an NHL RW, Pysyk is the third RHD, and Anderson is the top GK.
They will play hard and will be fun to watch, but in the end they will not reach 70 points with Trouba or Kreider or Strome on the team.
The issue would be to get players to waive their NTC.
I would like to hear from you, what you think the Sabres and Rangers would add to a Trouba-Miller/Eichel trade.
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1 oct. 2021 à 10 h 36
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Thanks for the feed back.


Pretending that Trouba would go, I would say something like Trouba, Georgiev, Chytil, Kakko OR Kravstov, and a 1st round pick, for Eichel and Miller, is a good start. Strome can either be included in the trade, or dealt to to someone else for a pick (VGK and OTT has expressed interest, etc). You then run Eichel, Zibanejad, and Goodrow as your top 3 centers. It's possible you keep Strome until the deadline or whenever Eichel returns. Maybe if they are really in the playoff hunt you keep him, but I don't see him being re-signed if Eichel is on the team, of course
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1 oct. 2021 à 10 h 50
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Thanks for the feed back.


I made a team of this a while back, though admittedly I probably added a bit too much on the Rangers' side haha. But if you wanted to see a basic idea of how the roster would like after that. I probably would remove Zac Jones from the trade now, given Eichel won't be ready for some time now. Also Nick Ritchie is obviously unobtainable now, so put Dryden Hunt or Gauthier there, or someone else

https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/2669806
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1 oct. 2021 à 15 h 30
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Thank you for responding.

Quoting: mvp13
I made a team of this a while back, though admittedly I probably added a bit too much on the Rangers' side haha. But if you wanted to see a basic idea of how the roster would like after that. I probably would remove Zac Jones from the trade now, given Eichel won't be ready for some time now. Also Nick Ritchie is obviously unobtainable now, so put Dryden Hunt or Gauthier there, or someone else
LOL what else is new Shibbal18 did not like the trade, he is a pure idiot!
He does not understand that once Jack is traded the Sabres need to add $8,000,000 to their salaries to reach the floor.
NYR1983 was a bit hyperbolic, but he was correct that it is an over pay.

https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/2669806


The talent exchange of Miller, Colin for Trouba, Jacob favors Buffalo, but if the goal is to dump cap, it is still unfair but understandable.
Same for the exchange of Tokarski, Dustin for Georgiev, Alexandar, it still greatly favors Buffalo

Eichel, Jack
for
Kakko, Kaapo
Strome, Ryan
2022 1st round pick (NYR)
Is close to what I think Buffalo will get, the Rangers need to add piece to make it fair.
So take out Jones and Chytil I think you have a deal and Georgiev and Trouba are the pieces that put the trade over the top.

Let me also say, my son understand hockey better than any one.
He can see value without prejudice of rooting for a team interfering.
We discussed Jack being traded to the Rangers and felt Jack for Kakko, Strome, Georgiev and 2022 first would be the return.
Trouba, Jones and Chytil are too much, but not enough to get Dahlin.
As a said, only Shibbal18 would object to a trade that is absolutely one sided in Buffalo's favor.
Thank you for reminding me that you may have been the first Ranger ACGM who posted a Miller and Trouba swap.
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