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A question to Hawks fans

Créé par: EccE
Date de création initiale: 27 sept. 2021
Publié: 27 sept. 2021
Équipe: 2021-22 Wild du Minnesota
Explications
A couple days back I saw an offer something along the lines of this. I think we will move Greenway anyway before 22-23, and Strome would give us immediate help at C, allowing Rossi to either start in the minors or play a bit more sheltered minutes.

Strome has struggled recently and the Hawks have a surplus of good centers. In Greenway, Chicago gets a top6/top9 power forward, who has a lot of potential for more - though he hasn't quite been there yet. Both will be RFAs after this season.

Let me know, what you think, Hawks fans!
Transactions
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MIN
  1. Strome, Dylan
Détails additionnels:
The trade is one for one!
CHI
  1. Greenway, Jordan
Détails additionnels:
Chicago also saves $900,000 in cap space for this season, is that moves the needle.
Rachats de contrats
  • Zach Parise: 2 371 794 $
  • Ryan Suter: 2 371 794 $
ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
2022
MIN
MIN
MIN
MIN
MIN
SJS
MIN
2023
MIN
MIN
MIN
MIN
MIN
MIN
MIN
2024
MIN
MIN
MIN
MIN
MIN
MIN
MIN
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2281 500 000 $79 355 255 $0 $1 582 500 $2 144 745 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
MIN
Kaprizov, Kirill
9 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 5
MIN
Eriksson Ek, Joel
5 250 000 $
C
UFA - 8
MIN
Zuccarello, Mats
6 000 000 $
AD, AG
NMC
UFA - 3
MIN
Fiala, Kevin
5 100 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 1
CHI
Strome, Dylan
3 000 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 1
MIN
Boldy, Matthew
880 833 $
AG, AD
RFA - 2
MIN
Foligno, Marcus
3 100 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 3
MIN
Rossi, Marco
894 167 $
C
RFA - 3
MIN
Hartman, Ryan
1 700 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 3
MIN
Gaudreau, Frédérick
1 200 000 $
C
UFA - 2
MIN
Sturm, Nico
725 000 $
C
UFA - 1
MIN
Bjugstad, Nick
900 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
MIN
Brodin, Jonas
6 000 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 7
MIN
Dumba, Matt
6 000 000 $
DD
NTC
UFA - 2
MIN
Talbot, Cam
3 666 667 $
G
UFA - 2
MIN
Goligoski, Alex
5 000 000 $
DG/DD
NMC
UFA - 1
MIN
Spurgeon, Jared
7 575 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 6
MIN
Kähkönen, Kaapo
725 000 $
G
RFA - 1
MIN
Kulikov, Dmitry
2 250 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 2
MIN
Addison, Calen
795 000 $
DD
RFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
MIN
Rask, Victor
4 000 000 $
C
UFA - 1
MIN
Merrill, Jon
850 000 $
DG
UFA - 1

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27 sept. à 12 h 4
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Go Pens!!
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good idea, but CHI adds imo
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27 sept. à 12 h 6
#2
Démarrer sujet
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Quoting: Imagine875948
good idea, but CHI adds imo


I'm definitely down for that!
27 sept. à 12 h 7
#3
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For all of the faults in both players, Greenway is finding his role and trending up. Strome is much more of a question mark. A much higher ceiling, but still a question mark.
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27 sept. à 12 h 13
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exo2769
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As a Hawks fan, I'm good with this. Stan is messing around with Strome for only god knows why. In camp they either have him as the #3LW or #4C. It's frustrating beyond all belief. If Stan really thinks the Hawks have a #3LW problem...fine, make this trade. Greenway would be great as the #3LW.
27 sept. à 12 h 19
#5
Panarin for Saad
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Stan Bowman thinks he can spread out scoring evenly on his lines. VGK dominates CHI because all they did was plant Reaves in the front of the net and no one could move him. It’s practically a universal rule in hockey that the fourth line drops the gloves/plays heavy grinder hockey. Yet 3rd overall pick Strome with Potential to be a very effective 2C is simply not that.
27 sept. à 12 h 25
#6
Hawks Fan
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Yeah I think Hawks have a surplus of Cs but not a single one is a guarantee. Dach has played two injury riddled, COVID affected seasons. Toews is a question mark. Johnson is past his prime. Strome is a question mark because he’s not great at faceoffs but is even worse as a winger. He’s “more valuable” to the Hawks because of those other three.
27 sept. à 12 h 32
#7
exo2769
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Quoting: Jco5ta5
Yeah I think Hawks have a surplus of Cs but not a single one is a guarantee. Dach has played two injury riddled, COVID affected seasons. Toews is a question mark. Johnson is past his prime. Strome is a question mark because he’s not great at faceoffs but is even worse as a winger. He’s “more valuable” to the Hawks because of those other three.


I just don't know what Stan's doing with him. To send Strome down to the prospects B/C game is a bit ridiculous. It feels like Stan's going out of his way to rub Strome's face in the dump he just took on the rug. Strome isn't a winger, and that experiment failed twice earlier, but sure enough to start camp Strome's back at the #3LW. Which turned into the #4C with Khaira/Carpy...which resulted in the embarrassing ISO video Powers took of Strome completely disinterested anything hockey related which turned into the #1C...on the prospect team.
27 sept. à 13 h 7
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Quoting: jnowariak
For all of the faults in both players, Greenway is finding his role and trending up. Strome is much more of a question mark. A much higher ceiling, but still a question mark.


I still don't think Greenway ends up being more than Coyle was for the Wild, but if they end up trading him, I'd rather it be for a prospect and/or picks instead of a guy who has been underwhelming on 2 teams now.
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27 sept. à 13 h 16
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Quoting: JayTea
I still don't think Greenway ends up being more than Coyle was for the Wild, but if they end up trading him, I'd rather it be for a prospect and/or picks instead of a guy who has been underwhelming on 2 teams now.


I think that’s an accurate assessment. Being Charlie Coyle isn’t a bad thing either, it’s just not the power forward everyone wants him to be.

I think he’s realizing his role and learning how to get better at that. I get a sense he doesn’t have the skill to play with a Boldy/Rossi type which is why he didn’t play well the other night. Let’s call it the Bonino effect.
27 sept. à 13 h 47
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PLM
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Pretty fair. Maybe CHI adds like a 3rd or 4th
27 sept. à 14 h 13
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Quoting: jnowariak
I think that’s an accurate assessment. Being Charlie Coyle isn’t a bad thing either, it’s just not the power forward everyone wants him to be.

I think he’s realizing his role and learning how to get better at that. I get a sense he doesn’t have the skill to play with a Boldy/Rossi type which is why he didn’t play well the other night. Let’s call it the Bonino effect.


The thing with Coyle was he was wildly inconsistent with the Wild and never showed up come playoff time, but Fletcher stuck with him because he was the centerpiece in the Burns trade so he needed him to pan out so the trade didn't look so bad (especially after Setoguchi and Phillips didn't work out here). If Greenway was consistently a middle 6 winger who you could count on to be one of your go to PKers while chipping in some scoring, I'd be happy with that. He just hasn't been able to do that just yet and it's frustrating because it seems like with Coyle, he'll have lost all trade value before the team is finally willing to move on. Hopefully Guerin isn't as attached as Fletcher was since he didn't draft him.
 
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