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Stanley Cup Champions

Créé par: hockeygm
Équipe: 2021-22 Blackhawks de Chicago
Date de création initiale: 23 sept. 2021
Publié: 23 sept. 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Transactions
1.
CHI
  1. Gostisbehere, Shayne
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (PHI)
Détails additionnels:
If CHI did this trade instead of ARZ.
ARI
2.
CBJ
  1. Krys, Chad
  2. Kubalik, Dominik
  3. Stillman, Riley
  4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (CHI)
3.
CHI
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2022 (LAK)
NSH
  1. De Haan, Calvin
  2. Choix de 6e ronde en 2022 (CBJ)
4.
CHI
  1. Choix de 5e ronde en 2022 (OTT)
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
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2022
Logo de PHI
Logo de EDM
Logo de TOR
Logo de VGK
Logo de LAK
Logo de CHI
Logo de OTT
Logo de CHI
Logo de CHI
2023
Logo de CHI
Logo de CHI
Logo de TBL
Logo de CHI
Logo de CHI
Logo de CHI
Logo de CHI
Logo de CHI
2024
Logo de CHI
Logo de CHI
Logo de CHI
Logo de CHI
Logo de CHI
Logo de CHI
Logo de CHI
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2381 500 000 $67 030 005 $452 439 $3 682 500 $14 469 995 $

Formation

Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Blue Jackets de Columbus
7 500 000 $7 500 000 $
C, AD, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
10 500 000 $10 500 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 2
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
2 625 000 $2 625 000 $
AD
NMC
UFA - 2
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
6 400 000 $6 400 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
C
UFA - 1
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 500 000 $$2M)
C, AD
RFA - 1
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
C
RFA - 2
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
AD, C, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
874 125 $874 125 $
AD, AG
RFA - 1
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
997 500 $997 500 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 1
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
AG
UFA - 3
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance300 000 $$300K)
DG
UFA - 2
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
5 400 000 $5 400 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Coyotes de l'Arizona
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
800 000 $800 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
850 000 $850 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
3 850 000 $3 850 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
975 000 $975 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 2
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
3 900 000 $3 900 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
842 500 $842 500 $ (Bonis de performance32 500 $$32K)
AG, C, AD
RFA - 1
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
DG
UFA - 1

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23 sept. 2021 à 11 h 15
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The last thing the hawks need is a bad defenseman in gostisbehere. Also rather stick with kubalik who's been more consistent and will be cheaper to sign than gamble on Laine
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23 sept. 2021 à 11 h 33
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Kubalik > Laine Which doesn't mean Kubalik is an All-Star. It means Laine is very very over rated.
23 sept. 2021 à 12 h 9
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Kubalik > Laine Which doesn't mean Kubalik is an All-Star. It means Laine is very very over rated.


I don't disagree, but Seth Jones is also very overrated, and see how that trade worked out.

Laine isn't going to be cheap to acquire by trade, and CBJ aren't going to trade him for pennies on the dollar, particularly if a team values him high enough to put him on a top line of a Stanley Cup contender.

For Laine, a trade package with CHI would probably look something like a 2023 1st, PHI's 2022 2nd, and Reichel. Mind you, that's if he doesn't come with an extension.
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23 sept. 2021 à 12 h 14
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Hawks can't do this due to cap issues next year. Would also much rather have Murphy on the 2nd line then Ghost..there is no need for Ghost. Lastly, Beaudin is not a first liner at this point and likely never will be.
23 sept. 2021 à 12 h 17
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The last thing the hawks need is a bad defenseman in gostisbehere. Also rather stick with kubalik who's been more consistent and will be cheaper to sign than gamble on Laine


BTW, your name is awesome.
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23 sept. 2021 à 12 h 25
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I don't disagree, but Seth Jones is also very overrated, and see how that trade worked out.

Laine isn't going to be cheap to acquire by trade, and CBJ aren't going to trade him for pennies on the dollar, particularly if a team values him high enough to put him on a top line of a Stanley Cup contender.

For Laine, a trade package with CHI would probably look something like a 2023 1st, PHI's 2022 2nd, and Reichel. Mind you, that's if he doesn't come with an extension.


I disagree about Seth Jones. Yes, anyone could say that I've turned bias after the trade, but all you can do is take my word. I wanted Seth Jones ALOT more than Dougie Hamilton. 2-way Dmen and even stay and home Dmen are MUCH harder to find right now than puck movers. Puck movers also are getting paid WAY too much money. I 100% agree that trade value for Jones was bad. I would have preferred to keep the 2022 1st round pick...OR wait until he was a UFA in order to pay him that contract. BUT again...Seth Jones was #1 on my wish list entering into the summer. I actually think he's one of the more UNDER-rated Dmen in the league.

How does this relate to Laine. Laine is a one dimensional player. He has a HECK of a snipe. One of the best in the league, but he's lazy, he doesn't play any defense, and he wants a MEGA contract. I think once Laine gets his contract he'll be a very middle of the road type prima donna and that's the last thing the Hawks need.

As for the trade value. I stick to my guns. Two wrongs don't make a right. Don't trade for Laine.
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23 sept. 2021 à 12 h 54
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How does this relate to Laine. Laine is a one dimensional player. He has a HECK of a snipe. One of the best in the league, but he's lazy, he doesn't play any defense, and he wants a MEGA contract. I think once Laine gets his contract he'll be a very middle of the road type prima donna and that's the last thing the Hawks need.


My point was just to say that reading this board during the Jones trade saga, it was nothing but "he's overrated," and see how that trade worked out. Tons of ACGMs built around severely depressing his value. The sentiment with Laine is largely the same. I think every ACGM that is built around the promise that Laine can be got for pennies on the dollar kind of automatically fails. But that's more of a general point, not so pointed to this ACGM. We're in agreement here - you don't want Laine to CHI, and I wouldn't want CBJ to trade him for this package.

I didn't like the Laine trade when it happened; but, Dubois' on-ice hissy fit unfortunately forced the issue and a desperation trade. To his credit, he is a guy who needs a set-up man in the form of a playmaking winger or a good C. I think, to CHI's credit, they have the type of talent that could get more out of him than a rebuilding CBJ club can right now. The entire reason they traded for Voracek was to build up Laine's value.

And, FWIW, I agree with you on your point regarding defense. Then again, a lot of players I think people on this board would foam at the mouth to get are otherwise not very good on D. https://twitter.com/jfreshhockey/status/1371217246387863554?lang=en
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