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Créé par: Gmonwy
Équipe: 2021-22 Flames de Calgary
Date de création initiale: 23 sept. 2021
Publié: 23 sept. 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Fellow Flames fans. What would you give up for Eichel now if we burried Gudbranson?
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  1. Dubé, Dillon
  2. Monahan, Sean
  3. Zary, Connor
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (CGY)
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Before Eichel's captaincy was stripped this was the deal I liked
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2181 500 000 $73 537 500 $0 $0 $7 962 500 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Flames de Calgary
6 750 000 $6 750 000 $
AG
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Flames de Calgary
10 000 000 $10 000 000 $
C
UFA - 5
Logo de Flames de Calgary
7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Flames de Calgary
4 900 000 $4 900 000 $
AD, AG
NTC
UFA - 6
Logo de Flames de Calgary
4 850 000 $4 850 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 3
Logo de Flames de Calgary
2 425 000 $2 425 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Flames de Calgary
5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
Logo de Flames de Calgary
5 350 000 $5 350 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Flames de Calgary
1 750 000 $1 750 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Flames de Calgary
800 000 $800 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 1
Logo de Flames de Calgary
800 000 $800 000 $
C
UFA - 1
Logo de Flames de Calgary
900 000 $900 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Flames de Calgary
725 000 $725 000 $
C
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Flames de Calgary
1 237 500 $1 237 500 $
DG
UFA - 3
Logo de Flames de Calgary
4 550 000 $4 550 000 $
DD
UFA - 5
Logo de Flames de Calgary
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo de Flames de Calgary
3 750 000 $3 750 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Flames de Calgary
1 125 000 $1 125 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Flames de Calgary
750 000 $750 000 $
G
UFA - 2
Logo de Flames de Calgary
1 550 000 $1 550 000 $
DG
RFA - 2
Logo de Flames de Calgary
750 000 $750 000 $
DD
UFA - 1

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23 sept. 2021 à 9 h 56
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Still dont think its too far off, just see it as
Buffalo is more likely to accept something like this now.

Pretty sure we save more cap here by sending Mackey down though instead
23 sept. 2021 à 10 h 1
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Still dont think its too far off, just see it as
Buffalo is more likely to accept something like this now.

Pretty sure we save more cap here by sending Mackey down though instead


Nah with Gudbranson in the AHL we have 712 k with Mackey we have 500k. Just tried it
23 sept. 2021 à 10 h 12
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Still dont think its too far off, just see it as
Buffalo is more likely to accept something like this now.

Pretty sure we save more cap here by sending Mackey down though instead


It was a good offer before. Taking the C away means nothing
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23 sept. 2021 à 10 h 18
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Quoting: Shibbal18
It was a good offer before. Taking the C away means nothing


Loosing captaincy wasnt what changed his perceived value, it was him fail8ng the physical. Prior to this Eichel kinda had 2 different values. One where he’s healthy and one where he’s not (Schrodinger's hockey player). Now that it has been 100% confirmed he is not clear to play we have a better idea on what his value is (not us specifically but GM's do)
23 sept. 2021 à 10 h 19
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Quoting: Gmonwy
Nah with Gudbranson in the AHL we have 712 k with Mackey we have 500k. Just tried it


And what about both? Play Stone instead
23 sept. 2021 à 10 h 20
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Loosing captaincy wasnt what changed his perceived value, it was him fail8ng the physical. Prior to this Eichel kinda had 2 different values. One where he’s healthy and one where he’s not (Schrodinger's hockey player). Now that it has been 100% confirmed he is not clear to play we have a better idea on what his value is (not us specifically but GM's do)


both of those things should have been expected in May when this started, I dont know why any one is shocked right now
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23 sept. 2021 à 10 h 22
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both of those things should have been expected in May when this started, I dont know why any one is shocked right now


Im not shocked its more like Adam's lost those cards to play now. Cant be as picky on a return
23 sept. 2021 à 10 h 30
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Im not shocked its more like Adam's lost those cards to play now. Cant be as picky on a return


I see no reason why Adams has to change his strategy. Losing Eichel to UFA is better than getting fleeced in another trade. Adams has to worry about his face more than just getting something back
23 sept. 2021 à 10 h 36
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Quoting: Shibbal18
I see no reason why Adams has to change his strategy. Losing Eichel to UFA is better than getting fleeced in another trade. Adams has to worry about his face more than just getting something back


I am not saying to get fleeced, I am saying he can't be declining deals like the above anymore for example
23 sept. 2021 à 10 h 37
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Im not shocked its more like Adam's lost those cards to play now. Cant be as picky on a return


any team would have had him looked at and his medical records reviewed before a trade went through anyway. It was widely accepted he needed surgery and the his value was predicated on that. Not his captaincy or if he is healthy (we knew he wasn't) the gamble was always gonna be if he is the same after the surgery.
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23 sept. 2021 à 10 h 40
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Quoting: Drakin1978
any team would have had him looked at and his medical records reviewed before a trade went through anyway. It was widely accepted he needed surgery and the his value was predicated on that. Not his captaincy or if he is healthy (we knew he wasn't) the gamble was always gonna be if he is the same after the surgery.


That's not entirely true, teams did have access to his medical records yes, but it was also well known that Eichel was skating and reported said he was feeling great. the records only update when a test takes place and that is what just occurred
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23 sept. 2021 à 11 h 57
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Im not shocked its more like Adam's lost those cards to play now. Cant be as picky on a return


Eichel failing his physical has changed this entire situation by exactly 0%. It has literally been known for days if not weeks that he would fail his physical since he is not willing to get the surgery the sabres doctors were recommending to him months ago. Since they can't agree on a path of treatment = failing physical.

This changes nothing as far as cards/ leverage/ etc in the trade market.
23 sept. 2021 à 12 h 3
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Eichel failing his physical has changed this entire situation by exactly 0%. It has literally been known for days if not weeks that he would fail his physical since he is not willing to get the surgery the sabres doctors were recommending to him months ago. Since they can't agree on a path of treatment = failing physical.

This changes nothing as far as cards/ leverage/ etc in the trade market.


I disagree but sure man
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23 sept. 2021 à 13 h 8
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Loosing captaincy wasnt what changed his perceived value, it was him fail8ng the physical. Prior to this Eichel kinda had 2 different values. One where he’s healthy and one where he’s not (Schrodinger's hockey player). Now that it has been 100% confirmed he is not clear to play we have a better idea on what his value is (not us specifically but GM's do)


Wait. A guy that missed 30+ games with a neck injury, was diagnosed with a neck injury and needs neck surgery, all known all off season, failed his physical??? It was a 100% lock for months. Nothing changed yesterday...
23 sept. 2021 à 13 h 10
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Wait. A guy that missed 30+ games with a neck injury, was diagnosed with a neck injury and needs neck surgery, all known all off season, failed his physical??? It was a 100% lock for months. Nothing changed yesterday...


He's not in a freaking wheelchair lol, he's literally been skating and training all summer, there was definitely a chance of him passing
 
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